Two things

Dick · 15 Jan 2003, 17:57

Two things,
1. When will we be able to see the video for "Did I Say That" cause i read on the loafdom forum that it was crap, which i cannot belive. So i would like to see it asap so i can make a decision.
2. What do you think the chances of the single or album being number 1?

Tim · 15 Jan 2003, 19:16

I've also heard that the video was and is crap. Well, haven't seen it myself, but what i've heard, it is not like the earlier vids of Meat Loaf.

I think that i'm start worrying about this whole project!!

It's hard to say, but let's face it:

-Did I Say That is not good at all
-The Video, of what i've heard, is crap
-3 different names for the album, and finally it is there
-first release in germany

-Duet with Shakira

Am i still the only one?? I mean, i'm a huge fan, don't get me wrong, but this is my opinion, and i'm fair.

Oh my god, i didn't give it up, but........well.....

Michel · 15 Jan 2003, 19:24

I absolutely don't agree with that Did I Say That is not good. I think it's a very good song, not as good as Steinman stuff, but it's better than many songs on Midnight and Blind.

Shakira sings very well.
I don't have an opinion about the video.

No I know the reason why you're not getting a forum!!

Tim · 15 Jan 2003, 19:26

Is that the reason?? I give my opinion?? And that's why i don't get a forum?? Well okay, i can agree with that......but were will this end. LOL

M.Bison · 15 Jan 2003, 19:37

The video for Did I Say That being crap huh, from the way i see it it's something like what the video of Not A Dry Eye In The House was or maybe even the type of music videos nearly all artist use today (The ones with various things or visualisations going on while the song is playing) But i just hope there's other videos to the song on the album as well. I personally think the song Did I Say That is good. But you know what they say "Everyone is entitled to there own opinion." What's in the video anyway?

Guppie · 15 Jan 2003, 19:41

To be honest: I have my doubts too, about wether or not it'll be succesfull I mean.
DIST just took some getting used to, everytime I hear the song, it sounds better for my ears.
The Video: haven't seen it myself. Heard from 1 person so far that is wasn't good.
Duet with Shakira: actually looking forward to that. You might be surprised about the combination...

Dick · 15 Jan 2003, 19:53

Oh Gawd, what have i started. I think if all the quicker bits are kept in the radio version and alot of the slower bits are left out the song should do just fine in the charts.

White of High · 15 Jan 2003, 20:09

First I'd like tell you, DTFW: "Hello!"

1: I have never seen this video, cause I haven't got music channel...
2: Did I Say That is a good song (maybe 7

)! I can't believe that a Meat song will be number 1! Not Did I Say That! Meat Loaf hasn't chances in this music world! You know, Eminem is the best...

**The Flying Mouse** · 15 Jan 2003, 20:12

Personally,I like Did I say that.Meat has done better songs,but this is still a good song.
The video?I havn't seen it so I can't comment too much about that,but I think any Meat Loaf video is a bonus

.Also (too anybody who has seen it) what is it about the video you don't like?Is Meat in the video?
As for the title changes and the fact that the album has taken so long too come out,I think that could be a good sign.It is a good indicator that Meat wanted to get everything just right before releasing it (or am I just being too over optomistic?

)
Shikira?I've yet too be convinced

.
I hope both the singles and the album do well in the charts.Meat deserves it.

Dick · 15 Jan 2003, 20:32

Hello White of High, I think if Meat doesn't get in the top 10 with this new song then he might do it with CHSIB as it is supposed to be like AFL. Also if Meat doesnt do well this time round, dont worry, cause if he releases BAT3 before he is 60 the single from that should definately go number 1.

Meat would have a chance at number because the music in 1993 was all rubish and differnt and Meat made his comeback and got the number 1 spot.

Raptor · 15 Jan 2003, 21:36

Did I Say That is a good song but it would be much better if the song was faster for longer. It sounds great when it is going fast. I'm a big Meat fan and love his music but if this is one of the better songs on the album then I really cant see it doing well. Some songs on the Welcome to the Neighbourhood album are much better.

R. · 15 Jan 2003, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick the Fire Wizard

Oh Gawd, what have i started

Nothing.
This IS a discussion forum. You just started one.

Anyway - as this topic isn't general at all, it's oing to be moved to the CHSIB forum.

Keep posting folks.

Meatles · 15 Jan 2003, 22:07

O.k guys, this is my opinion

I am a MEAT LOAF fan, his voice, his atmosphere, his stage tactics and even his acting. I don't think that every song Meat releases should be written by Jim Steinman. I think Meats solo stuff is just as good as Steinman stuff, and I think Did I Say That is another amazing song by
opinionly the King Of Rock. Haven't seen the video as of yet, but I think
it will be amazing.

Guppie · 15 Jan 2003, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Is that the reason?? I give my opinion?? And that's why i don't get a forum?? Well okay, i can agree with that......but were will this end. LOL

OMG... you don't get your own forum just for having an opinion?? that's total anarchy

Guppie · 16 Jan 2003, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatles

O.k guys, this is my opinion

I am a MEAT LOAF fan, his voice, his atmosphere, his stage tactics and even his acting. I don't think that every song Meat releases should be written by Jim Steinman. I think Meats solo stuff is just as good as Steinman stuff, and I think Did I Say That is another amazing song by
opinionly the King Of Rock. Haven't seen the video as of yet, but I think
it will be amazing.

Meats solo stuff just as good as Steinman stuff.... well, Meat's voice is just as good, and his live performance is the BEST... but the combination Meat/Steinman is one that can't be compared to anything else. That's just in my humble opinion of course...
WTTN was a great album, most songs no Steinman lyrics. So I don't say that Meat needs Steinman to be at his best, but... well, for me, the combi Meat/Steinman is goddamnit irresistable.

Tim · 16 Jan 2003, 13:10

Guppie Wrote:

Quote:

OMG... you don't get your own forum just for having an opinion?? that's total anarchy

You see guppie, it's to.....well, can't even talk about it any more....so hard...

And i don't think it has all to do with the lyrics. Also the music is very important. Ofcourse a good combination is magical, but with some music it think words are more important, but from some music only i get the chickenskin.

But let's face it: we are spoiled with Bat 1 and Bat 2!! Now Bat 3!

Guppie · 16 Jan 2003, 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Guppie Wrote:

Quote:

OMG... you don't get your own forum just for having an opinion?? that's total anarchy

You see guppie, it's to.....well, can't even talk about it any more....so hard...

And i don't think it has all to do with the lyrics. Also the music is very important. Ofcourse a good combination is magical, but with some music it think words are more important, but from some music only i get the chickenskin.

But let's face it: we are spoiled with Bat 1 and Bat 2!! Now Bat 3!

Its... its... well... no words for that. I'll have to go on strike until you get your own forum

Excactly right: sometime's it's the lyrics that get to me, and sometimes it's the music...

Shane · 16 Jan 2003, 13:45

Tim, responding to your points in your first post:

-Did I Say That is not good at all

I disagree. It's not Meat's best work, but it still is very good in my opinion. I would say that it is probably one of Meat's best "non-Jim" songs.

-The Video, of what i've heard, is crap

I haven't seen the video. I don't think one has even been made or completed yet. All that I have heard is that DIST is the theme music for a German television show or something like that. Apparently the director of the music video has also directed music videos for Korn, and there is a picture of James Michael with Meat on James Michael taken at the place where the video was shot. James Michael mentioned on his website that he enjoyed watching Meat acting out the song.

-3 different names for the album, and finally it is there

I guess Meat's vision for the album has changed or evolved over time. The title may have been changed from Testify because of Phil Collin's album of the same name that came out recently, or it could have been to draw more attention to the title track, Couldn't Have Said It Better.

-first release in germany

There's nothing wrong with that. Of course, I wish it had been released in New Zealand first. We all wish that it had been released in our own countries first. But it has to start somewhere. Europe (and Germany) has been very good to Meat in the past.

-Duet with Shakira

I think this is a good thing, an I am looking forward to it. Some people on one of the mailing lists say that she is the spoken voice on Tear Me Down.

Guppie · 16 Jan 2003, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane

I haven't seen the video. I don't think one has even been made or completed yet. All that I have heard is that DIST is the theme music for a German television show or something like that.

You're wrong about the clip, the (German) person that saw the clip and thought it wasn't good, saw it on... I think it's called Viva? It's a German channel, sort of like mtv. He said the clip was mostly black and white

R. · 16 Jan 2003, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guppie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane

I haven't seen the video. I don't think one has even been made or completed yet. All that I have heard is that DIST is the theme music for a German television show or something like that.

You're wrong about the clip, the (German) person that saw the clip and thought it wasn't good, saw it on... I think it's called Viva? It's a German channel, sort of like mtv. He said the clip was mostly black and white

Fact: DIST is the title track (theme) for the Napoleon mini series which was broadcasted by ZDF recently.

Question: Why does a video clip in b&w su<k?

R.

Tim · 17 Jan 2003, 00:00

Everybody has his own opinion. Offcourse.....

And well....as i said before, i will wait till i heard the whole album, but for now that's my opinion. And i know, it sounds very hard and tough.
but that doesn't mean that i'm no fan anymore, like other people said

Guppie · 17 Jan 2003, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.

Fact: DIST is the title track (theme) for the Napoleon mini series which was broadcasted by ZDF recently.

Question: Why does a video clip in b&w su<k?

R.

I don't know, I never saw the clip, I can't over here in Holland. I'm only repeating what the person that saw it and didn't like it said...
He wrote:
"Saw Meats "Did I Say That" video on German clip channel Viva today.
It is not good.In no way comparable to the Michael Bay videos from Bat II or WelcomeTTN. Mainly black and white with some terribly made dream figures put in."

**The Flying Mouse** · 17 Jan 2003, 17:16

Meat Loaf and Napoleon.I never thought I would use those words in the same sentence

.(Hey R. we are talking the short Corsican guy with his hand stuffed in his shirt right?).
I think Meat is doing a black and white video to bring a little more realism to the forties crime comics style he's trying to portray

.Not a bad thing,but I do prefare his old mystical rock star style

.
It's a shame Michael Bay isn't directing.His previous work with Meat was great.Maybe he's busy on another project (in which case "Projects In The Rear View Mirror May Apear Closer Than They Are").(Sorry

)

White of High · 17 Jan 2003, 17:36

Anybody can tell me where would I hear "Did I Say That" in Napoleon? Which part of film and which sence? I heard it nowhere...

Tim · 17 Jan 2003, 17:55

Thought it was the main music, or how do you call that, kind of soundtrack.......so go and see....and maybe you will hear it.

15 Jan 2003, 17:57	#1
Dick Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Donaghadee, Northern Ireland Posts: 385	Two things Two things, 1. When will we be able to see the video for "Did I Say That" cause i read on the loafdom forum that it was crap, which i cannot belive. So i would like to see it asap so i can make a decision. 2. What do you think the chances of the single or album being number 1?

16 Jan 2003, 13:45	#18
Shane Super Loafer Join Date: 30.04.2002 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand (GMT+12) Posts: 608	TIM Tim, responding to your points in your first post: -Did I Say That is not good at all I disagree. It's not Meat's best work, but it still is very good in my opinion. I would say that it is probably one of Meat's best "non-Jim" songs. -The Video, of what i've heard, is crap I haven't seen the video. I don't think one has even been made or completed yet. All that I have heard is that DIST is the theme music for a German television show or something like that. Apparently the director of the music video has also directed music videos for Korn, and there is a picture of James Michael with Meat on James Michael taken at the place where the video was shot. James Michael mentioned on his website that he enjoyed watching Meat acting out the song. -3 different names for the album, and finally it is there I guess Meat's vision for the album has changed or evolved over time. The title may have been changed from Testify because of Phil Collin's album of the same name that came out recently, or it could have been to draw more attention to the title track, Couldn't Have Said It Better. -first release in germany There's nothing wrong with that. Of course, I wish it had been released in New Zealand first. We all wish that it had been released in our own countries first. But it has to start somewhere. Europe (and Germany) has been very good to Meat in the past. -Duet with Shakira I think this is a good thing, an I am looking forward to it. Some people on one of the mailing lists say that she is the spoken voice on Tear Me Down.

15 Jan 2003, 19:16	#2
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	I've also heard that the video was and is crap. Well, haven't seen it myself, but what i've heard, it is not like the earlier vids of Meat Loaf. I think that i'm start worrying about this whole project!! It's hard to say, but let's face it: -Did I Say That is not good at all -The Video, of what i've heard, is crap -3 different names for the album, and finally it is there -first release in germany -Duet with Shakira Am i still the only one?? I mean, i'm a huge fan, don't get me wrong, but this is my opinion, and i'm fair. Oh my god, i didn't give it up, but........well.....

15 Jan 2003, 19:24	#3
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	I absolutely don't agree with that Did I Say That is not good. I think it's a very good song, not as good as Steinman stuff, but it's better than many songs on Midnight and Blind. Shakira sings very well. I don't have an opinion about the video. No I know the reason why you're not getting a forum!!

15 Jan 2003, 19:26	#4
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Is that the reason?? I give my opinion?? And that's why i don't get a forum?? Well okay, i can agree with that......but were will this end. LOL

15 Jan 2003, 19:37	#5
M.Bison The Lurker in The Shadows Join Date: 02.12.2002 Location: Cork Posts: 209	The video for Did I Say That being crap huh, from the way i see it it's something like what the video of Not A Dry Eye In The House was or maybe even the type of music videos nearly all artist use today (The ones with various things or visualisations going on while the song is playing) But i just hope there's other videos to the song on the album as well. I personally think the song Did I Say That is good. But you know what they say "Everyone is entitled to there own opinion." What's in the video anyway?

15 Jan 2003, 19:41	#6
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	To be honest: I have my doubts too, about wether or not it'll be succesfull I mean. DIST just took some getting used to, everytime I hear the song, it sounds better for my ears. The Video: haven't seen it myself. Heard from 1 person so far that is wasn't good. Duet with Shakira: actually looking forward to that. You might be surprised about the combination...

15 Jan 2003, 19:53	#7
Dick Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Donaghadee, Northern Ireland Posts: 385	Oh Gawd, what have i started. I think if all the quicker bits are kept in the radio version and alot of the slower bits are left out the song should do just fine in the charts.

15 Jan 2003, 20:09	#8
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	First I'd like tell you, DTFW: "Hello!" 1: I have never seen this video, cause I haven't got music channel... 2: Did I Say That is a good song (maybe 7 )! I can't believe that a Meat song will be number 1! Not Did I Say That! Meat Loaf hasn't chances in this music world! You know, Eminem is the best...

15 Jan 2003, 20:12	#9
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Personally,I like Did I say that.Meat has done better songs,but this is still a good song. The video?I havn't seen it so I can't comment too much about that,but I think any Meat Loaf video is a bonus .Also (too anybody who has seen it) what is it about the video you don't like?Is Meat in the video? As for the title changes and the fact that the album has taken so long too come out,I think that could be a good sign.It is a good indicator that Meat wanted to get everything just right before releasing it (or am I just being too over optomistic? ) Shikira?I've yet too be convinced . I hope both the singles and the album do well in the charts.Meat deserves it.

15 Jan 2003, 20:32	#10
Dick Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Donaghadee, Northern Ireland Posts: 385	Hello White of High, I think if Meat doesn't get in the top 10 with this new song then he might do it with CHSIB as it is supposed to be like AFL. Also if Meat doesnt do well this time round, dont worry, cause if he releases BAT3 before he is 60 the single from that should definately go number 1. Meat would have a chance at number because the music in 1993 was all rubish and differnt and Meat made his comeback and got the number 1 spot.

15 Jan 2003, 21:36	#11
Raptor Junior Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2002 Location: Cymru Posts: 42	Did I Say That is a good song but it would be much better if the song was faster for longer. It sounds great when it is going fast. I'm a big Meat fan and love his music but if this is one of the better songs on the album then I really cant see it doing well. Some songs on the Welcome to the Neighbourhood album are much better.

15 Jan 2003, 22:07	#13
Meatles Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario (born and raised in London England) Posts: 253	O.k guys, this is my opinion I am a MEAT LOAF fan, his voice, his atmosphere, his stage tactics and even his acting. I don't think that every song Meat releases should be written by Jim Steinman. I think Meats solo stuff is just as good as Steinman stuff, and I think Did I Say That is another amazing song by opinionly the King Of Rock. Haven't seen the video as of yet, but I think it will be amazing.

17 Jan 2003, 00:00	#21
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Everybody has his own opinion. Offcourse..... And well....as i said before, i will wait till i heard the whole album, but for now that's my opinion. And i know, it sounds very hard and tough. but that doesn't mean that i'm no fan anymore, like other people said

17 Jan 2003, 17:16	#23
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Meat Loaf and Napoleon.I never thought I would use those words in the same sentence .(Hey R. we are talking the short Corsican guy with his hand stuffed in his shirt right?). I think Meat is doing a black and white video to bring a little more realism to the forties crime comics style he's trying to portray .Not a bad thing,but I do prefare his old mystical rock star style . It's a shame Michael Bay isn't directing.His previous work with Meat was great.Maybe he's busy on another project (in which case "Projects In The Rear View Mirror May Apear Closer Than They Are").(Sorry )

17 Jan 2003, 17:36	#24
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Anybody can tell me where would I hear "Did I Say That" in Napoleon? Which part of film and which sence? I heard it nowhere...

17 Jan 2003, 17:55	#25
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Thought it was the main music, or how do you call that, kind of soundtrack.......so go and see....and maybe you will hear it.