The ageist music industry

robgomm · 16 Nov 2011, 13:49

If this doesn't show how disgustingly ageist the music industry is nothing does:

http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/sir-cli...091400852.html

Who are they to say what 'cool' is? In other words they mean young right?

LucyK! · 16 Nov 2011, 13:55

Is age anything to do with this? Reading that it seems that Cliff's music won't be played because he's not "cool" enough for that station, not because he's too old. If they don't like Cliff's music I'd assume that they wouldn't like it regardless of how old he is.

chairboys · 16 Nov 2011, 13:57

He's banned from a station playing 60's music?
It's a mad mad world.

Did see him once at Wembley Stadium. Can't say it was my best concert experience.

Mr. Happy · 16 Nov 2011, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Lucy!

Is age anything to do with this? Reading that it seems that Cliff's music won't be played because he's not "cool" enough for that station, not because he's too old. If they don't like Cliff's music I'd assume that they wouldn't like it regardless of how old he is.

To be fair, he was only banned on the one radio station. It's more likely that the radio station in question is attempting to appeal to the younger generation, and they're far more likely to do that by promoting the pop crap that clogs up a lot of the music industry. Sadly, that isn't Cliff Richard's area of expertise

LucyK! · 16 Nov 2011, 14:04

Have I misunderstood it that it's a station dedicated to 60s? I thought Absolute Radio 60s was the name, as in they play 60s stuff??

Based on that I don't see how it can be ageism if they're continuing to play other 60s stuff by - for example - The Beatles, The Stones, Springsteen etc

Mr. Happy · 16 Nov 2011, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Lucy!

Have I misunderstood it that it's a station dedicated to 60s? I thought Absolute Radio 60s was the name, as in they play 60s stuff??

Based on that I don't see how it can be ageism if they're continuing to play other 60s stuff by - for example - The Beatles, The Stones, Springsteen etc

Shit you're right, I didn't pay any attention whatsoever to the name of the station. Disregard my post, counts for absolutely nothing

Teaches me to read in a little more detail.

On that note, I agree 100% with Lucy >.>

chairboys · 16 Nov 2011, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

To be fair, he was only banned on the one radio station. It's more likely that the radio station in question is attempting to appeal to the younger generation, and they're far more likely to do that by promoting the pop crap that clogs up a lot of the music industry. Sadly, that isn't Cliff Richard's area of expertise

I think they only play songs from the 60's. Is this a station for the younger generation or a trip down memory lane for the older folk. If it is the latter, then banning Cliff does seem a bit harsh.

robgomm · 16 Nov 2011, 14:11

You're right I didn't get that it was a station for the 60's. In which case they really shouldn't be banning someone who has sold more than anyone in this country.

Sorry for the complete bollocks thread!

Sarge · 16 Nov 2011, 15:16

Considering what's being played on the radio these days, I even think it's cool not to be played on it.

I've never been a huge fan of Cliff Richard but I like a couple of his songs and the stupid decision by the folks running that radio station has made him an involuntary rebel.

robgomm · 16 Nov 2011, 16:55

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Considering what's being played on the radio these days, I even think it's cool not to be played on it.

I've never been a huge fan of Cliff Richard but I like a couple of his songs and the stupid decision by the folks running that radio station has made him an involuntary rebel.

And rebels are cool! I know it doesn't relate to this because I did get it wrong, but the music is definitely ageist anyway aren't they. If you're lucky on my local radio station you might get some abba, but that's about it. No beatles, no rod stewart, no meat, no rolling stones etc etc. In fact i think abba are the only older ones i have heard.

duke knooby · 17 Nov 2011, 00:17

the music industry is really just the packaging industry, stamping out thousands of clones and soundalikes of what they think will sell. they don't like change, they don't like what doesn't fit the mould and they don't like taking risks, in my opinion.

Paul Richardson · 17 Nov 2011, 00:20

Who cares about Cliff Richard ? If I never heard another of his records it'd be too soon ... so good decision by that radio station if you ask me ...

duke knooby · 17 Nov 2011, 00:22

but mistle toe and wine should soon be getting airplay

LucyK! · 17 Nov 2011, 00:58

Generally I don't care for Cliff's music, I respect what he does but it's just not for me.

HOWEVER....NOTHING beats his Christmas album! Nothing makes me feel more festive!

jcmoorehead · 17 Nov 2011, 11:14

If more radio stations banned Cliff Richard the world would be a better place

Seriously though, the guy was popular in the 60s and it is a 60s station so I don't really see a reason to not play him. People obviously go to that station looking for music from that era and unfortunately Cliff was a part of that era.

chairboys · 19 Nov 2011, 14:00

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

but mistle toe and wine should soon be getting airplay

Free "Christmas with Cliff" CD with the Daily Mail today. Track 2 mistletoe and wine.

16 Nov 2011, 13:49	#1
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	The ageist music industry If this doesn't show how disgustingly ageist the music industry is nothing does: http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/sir-cli...091400852.html Who are they to say what 'cool' is? In other words they mean young right?

16 Nov 2011, 13:55	#2
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Is age anything to do with this? Reading that it seems that Cliff's music won't be played because he's not "cool" enough for that station, not because he's too old. If they don't like Cliff's music I'd assume that they wouldn't like it regardless of how old he is.

16 Nov 2011, 13:57	#3
chairboys Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.09.2011 Posts: 1,811	He's banned from a station playing 60's music? It's a mad mad world. Did see him once at Wembley Stadium. Can't say it was my best concert experience.

16 Nov 2011, 14:04	#5
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Have I misunderstood it that it's a station dedicated to 60s? I thought Absolute Radio 60s was the name, as in they play 60s stuff?? Based on that I don't see how it can be ageism if they're continuing to play other 60s stuff by - for example - The Beatles, The Stones, Springsteen etc

16 Nov 2011, 14:11	#8
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	You're right I didn't get that it was a station for the 60's. In which case they really shouldn't be banning someone who has sold more than anyone in this country. Sorry for the complete bollocks thread!

16 Nov 2011, 15:16	#9
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Considering what's being played on the radio these days, I even think it's cool not to be played on it. I've never been a huge fan of Cliff Richard but I like a couple of his songs and the stupid decision by the folks running that radio station has made him an involuntary rebel.

17 Nov 2011, 00:17	#11
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,906	the music industry is really just the packaging industry, stamping out thousands of clones and soundalikes of what they think will sell. they don't like change, they don't like what doesn't fit the mould and they don't like taking risks, in my opinion.

17 Nov 2011, 00:20	#12
Paul Richardson Super Loafer Join Date: 16.05.2010 Posts: 535	Who cares about Cliff Richard ? If I never heard another of his records it'd be too soon ... so good decision by that radio station if you ask me ...

17 Nov 2011, 00:22	#13
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,906	but mistle toe and wine should soon be getting airplay

17 Nov 2011, 00:58	#14
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Generally I don't care for Cliff's music, I respect what he does but it's just not for me. HOWEVER....NOTHING beats his Christmas album! Nothing makes me feel more festive!

17 Nov 2011, 11:14	#15
jcmoorehead Super Loafer Join Date: 09.04.2003 Location: Edinburgh, formerly Teesside Posts: 672	If more radio stations banned Cliff Richard the world would be a better place Seriously though, the guy was popular in the 60s and it is a 60s station so I don't really see a reason to not play him. People obviously go to that station looking for music from that era and unfortunately Cliff was a part of that era.