The Vault (or Lack Thereof?)

[Wario]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

What demo?

wasnt there one on rockman? could be msitaken

[Evil Ernie]

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

Song doesn't exist as a recorded song yet. Jim says he is still working on it.

I meant the album. I kind of wanna hear how bad ML was at that point, because by all accounts it was pretty bad.

On a side note, does anyone think that the cover for BFG was supposed to be the cover for RA? Seeing as the guy on the cover matches the description of a 'Renegade Angel'.

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by Evil One

Renegade Angel morphed into Objects In The Rear View Mirror

Really - never heard that before - what are your sources ?

[Evil One]

Something buried somewhere in my brain.

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by Evil One

Something buried somewhere in my brain.

Well try and dig that one up. Sounds interesting.

[Mr. Happy]

Originally Posted by Evil One

Something buried somewhere in my brain.

I don't think you're correct, sorry:

http://jimsteinman.blogspot.com.au/2...july-1906.html

"RENEGADE ANGEL" was my title since 1978. I dont like seeing it "used" as "ad copy." But I cant do anything alas...I am STILL going to finish RENEGADE ANGEL, as Im only now realizing how to do it.It started with a boy losing his virginity and "another angel got its wings."

"We hope & dream & strive
Till one day
Theres nothing left but
A Renegade Angel
And Only Lovers Left Alive."

Ill get to more l8r.

From July 2006. That sounds to me like it's still a work in progress. Somehow. Thirty five years after it's conception.

Originally Posted by Evil Ernie

I meant the album. I kind of wanna hear how bad ML was at that point, because by all accounts it was pretty bad.

I'd be interested particularly in the original version of Rock and Roll Dreams that was initially meant to be on Dead Ringer. I wonder if they thought it was worth keeping allegedly horrific demo recordings for thirty years at the time, though

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

BAD ATTITUDE for example had a few extra songs that were replaced by Paul Jacobs/Sarah Durkee songs, which were far superior.

On the flip side we have Lost Love that never made it to MATLAF and Prize Fight Lover that was left off HCTB. Both are great songs that should have been on the their respective albums, in my opinion

This is the sort of stuff I'm after So thirty from HCTB, one each from Bat 3, CHSIB and HIAHB (Meat said he thought he might change one of the songs for another one when they did the changes post-Australian release) and a few from Bad Attitude (so far). On top of all the B-Sides that we already know. If all of those were all recorded, plus whatever old demos might be left lying around, it's already enough to be a pretty cool release

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

I don't think you're correct, sorry:

http://jimsteinman.blogspot.com.au/2...july-1906.html



From July 2006. That sounds to me like it's still a work in progress. Somehow. Thirty five years after it's conception.



I'd be interested particularly in the original version of Rock and Roll Dreams that was initially meant to be on Dead Ringer. I wonder if they thought it was worth keeping allegedly horrific demo recordings for thirty years at the time, though



This is the sort of stuff I'm after So thirty from HCTB, one each from Bat 3, CHSIB and HIAHB (Meat said he thought he might change one of the songs for another one when they did the changes post-Australian release) and a few from Bad Attitude (so far). On top of all the B-Sides that we already know. If all of those were all recorded, plus whatever old demos might be left lying around, it's already enough to be a pretty cool release

I think we've heard all we can from BAD ATTITUDE. I believe that there was a Beatles cover which we've heard, Raise your Hand which was a B side. I doubt there is anything else.
Meat has said time and again he is not a fan of the studio so I just can't seem him in there recording much as far as extras go.
The songs from HCTB may not even have Meat singing on them as Paul has pointed out the demos presented to Meat were rough cuts with rough vocals on them. Lately thats been Justin but in the past who knows?

[tsporr93]

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

I think we've heard all we can from BAD ATTITUDE. I believe that there was a Beatles cover which we've heard, Raise your Hand which was a B side. I doubt there is anything else.

Sorry, but what is 'Raise Your Hand'? I haven't heard of that one. Thanks!

[Wario]

Originally Posted by tsporr93

Sorry, but what is 'Raise Your Hand'? I haven't heard of that one. Thanks!

he means clap your hands:

YouTube Video

[samurai7]

'Clap Your Hands' was originally the B-side to Meat's mid-70's (pre-Bat) take on 'Stand By Me'. It was then added as a B-Side on the 'Nowhere Fast' singles. There is a song from the Bad Attitude sessions called 'Take a Number' that would qualify (it was the B-Side to 'Modern Girl', and came in normal and extended versions, depending if you bought the 7" or 12" singles. And from BBIS there was the extra track 'R.P.M' that was on the flip side of 'Rock And Roll Mercenaries.'

[Wario]

For those curious:

Take a Number (Extended Version):

YouTube Video

RPM:

YouTube Video

[Evil One]

Neither are particularly good, but still a lot better than Crap Your Hands. Crap, crap, crap your hands.

[AndrewG]

Those two songs suck.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by Evil One

Neither are particularly good, but still a lot better than Crap Your Hands. Crap, crap, crap your hands.

It does sound like crap..... In both connotations