It's All Coming Back duet with Katherine McPhee

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by CarylB

But Evil's right in saying Katherine McPhee was pretty dismissive of Meat in a later interview, and did say she'd never heard of him, which is more an indictment of her as than it is of Meat's reputation. You'd expect young artists on canvass to have heard of Monet, Picasso, Warhol etc and have studied their work, and respect it even if their artistic take was different; time was, young musical artists would have heard of the greats in modern music and taken an interest in them even if they decided they wanted to do differently, just as Meat when he was young had heard and listened to the greats in popular music and rock.

Yes and no. In her defense (not of her attitide, only of her lack of knowledge), most of these kids are very young, and are more likely influenced by what they're hearing lately. I would think any serious knowledge or study of influences by a young artist would be an exception, and one exhibited by the more "serious" artist. Compare someone like Alicia Keys, for example, versus Britney Spears- no real comparison, IMO.

As for McPhee, I was never a fan of her at all.

She's been in the news lately because she's going to be on a new TV show coming out:

http://www.nbc.com/smash/

[juniper]

I've seen this video before, it's downright painful. Meat, of course, is great in it. He clearly is trying to engage her and she's not having any part of it. She either never sung a duet before or for some reason was extremely uncomfortable and it showed in her performance. Meat gave it his all, like usual, but she let him down, then she went on to ridicule him, though she actually is kinda funny when she talks about meeting him, but the perfomance video needs to be buried and forgotten.

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by CarylB

Which is what I said. That made it incredibly difficult at the start, and had to have had some effect throughout. It certainly wasn't a great performance, but I disagree absolutely that it was as some suggest.

I agree there's a tendency for much of anything related to Bat3 to be heavily criticised here. It wasn't Meat's best time, he was exhausted, stressed, and eventually the vocal cyst became apparent. But he gave many great performances over a sustained period. The RAH was superb, he sang his ass off and the atmosphere was amazing. But he also sang his ass off in many shows on that tour which I attended, and to virtually write off that time and that tour as some seem to is imo to diminish what he delivered.

Caryl

Good points there to be sure. But I think much of the negativity of the BAT 3 album and tour began with Meat's own comments about how he felt about the whole experience. I think that he gave it his all but in the end it really got to him. The BAT 3 DVD was not the Meat I had seen before or since on tour. I don't fault him for being anymore or less human than the rest of us. Just glad he didn't stop at BAT 3 and kept going,

[Wario]

shes a bitch, always will be a bitch. screw her shes nothing and a disgrace

[Sue K]

Originally Posted by Wario

shes a bitch, always will be a bitch. screw her shes nothing and a disgrace

Good morning, WarieL ! and come onnn... don't hold back... Tell us how you REALLY feel ... ...

ONLY KIDDING !

S ... suddenly realizing WarieL probably will ... hahaha ... xo

[TheDoode]

Like it or not, the Huckabee performance of LA was far worse. I think people are being a little too harsh on this one. It wasn't perfect, by any stretch, but it wasn't horrible either.

[TheDoode]

And because I don't want to leave this thread on a downer (and since we're on the subject of TV appearances), the recent Bagel Bites performance actually had some fantastic vocals. Never get tired of that one, man.

[robgomm]

Oh yeah! Bagel bites was awesome!

[snider22]

Originally Posted by robgomm

Oh yeah! Bagel bites was awesome!

I agree, some fantastic notes nailed in that performance and the American Idol performance was not as bad as many make it out to be.

[GDW]

Is Bagel Bites a Jim Steinman song from DOTV?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Like it or not, the Huckabee performance of LA was far worse. I think people are being a little too harsh on this one. It wasn't perfect, by any stretch, but it wasn't horrible either.

Not sure I can say I disagree with your comment here, as I believe art is subjective and not objective; therefore, "best" \ "worst" are pretty much moot in my eyes. I would say they are very different performances of very different types of songs.

I would never expect nor do I believe anyone could ever deliver a sweeping emotion filled epic performance of Los Angeloser (even Meat Loaf), just the same as I do not believe It's All Coming Back To Me Now could ever be performed as a standard rock n roll romp. Both songs are different and deserve a different approach. I think the Huckabee performance of Los Angeloser was adequate for what it was (a rock performance of a standard rock song on a conservative TV show) whereas I think the American Idol performance of It's All Coming Back To Me Now with all of the dramatic lights, vast array of musicians, and high production value simply fell flat of what it could/should have been.

[TheDoode]

Originally Posted by Dave

Not sure I can say I disagree with your comment here, as I believe art is subjective and not objective; therefore, "best" \ "worst" are pretty much moot in my eyes. I would say they are very different performances of very different types of songs.

I would never expect nor do I believe anyone could ever deliver a sweeping emotion filled epic performance of Los Angeloser (even Meat Loaf), just the same as I do not believe It's All Coming Back To Me Now could ever be performed as a standard rock n roll romp. Both songs are different and deserve a different approach. I think the Huckabee performance of Los Angeloser was adequate for what it was (a rock performance of a standard rock song on a conservative TV show) whereas I think the American Idol performance of It's All Coming Back To Me Now with all of the dramatic lights, vast array of musicians, and high production value simply fell flat of what it could/should have been.

Dave, agreed and agreed, but my point was about the quality of the vocals and the confidence in the performance, over the style of delivery of the song. The Huckabee wasn't Meat's best, sadly, but the American Idol gig, despite the low monitors at the beginning and Catherine McWhatever, was actually quite strong in comparison (vocally).