Steinman is done, unfortunately - Page 2

mszee · 30 Apr 2009, 04:26

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Originally Posted by renegadeangel

No but we are good friends and share the same tastes in music. We've spent many a night over a few drinks going over the what ifs and the could have beens. No one is trying to stir up trouble but after going over everything, this is what we both agree on.

You and who???

Pudding · 30 Apr 2009, 05:59

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Originally Posted by mszee

You and who???

Bullwhip on Rockman

Pud

**RadioMaster** · 30 Apr 2009, 08:45

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Two rights don't make a left?

damnit was just about to post that

**allrevvedup** · 30 Apr 2009, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Two rights don't make a left?

they do if i'm driving

lorenzoduke · 11 May 2009, 13:32

I doubt that any of us would be surprised if Jim never wrote another song. As others have said, he's never been very prolific, but I'd take quality over quantity any day, and Steinman's written more great songs than most.

If he is done, so be it.

rockfenris2005 · 25 May 2009, 05:39

I think someone here needs to read Fireball's post regarding Jim...

Pudding · 25 May 2009, 10:08

Who would that be? and why?

Pud

Evil One · 25 May 2009, 13:40

And which post in particular?

WhenItComes2LovingU · 25 May 2009, 16:43

Sorry about the mad hatter - he can't afford to watch anyone taken off the pedestal he's raised for them.

Jayd · 25 May 2009, 17:16

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Originally Posted by madhatterster

I think someone here needs to read Fireball's post regarding Jim...

And when was this post, 2004, 2005, 2006 because I can't see any recent post by Fireball, last was Aug 2008 if I am correct.

**The Flying Mouse** · 26 May 2009, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Who would that be? and why?

Pud

This is the only one that springs to mind..........

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

This is a Jim friendly site. No one should bash Jim. It is a classless act to do such a thing to someone who has brought much enjoyment to the world and most of all , the people on this site.
Jim and I have done great things together, have done allot to help each other and I still consider Jim to be a good friend. He may not mind what you say about him but I do. Please remember, Jim is at the top of a very short list of great writers and he should be shown the respect he deserves.
Meat Loaf

Quite why anyone needs to read that post in this context is beyond me.
I can't say anyone here is being critical or rude about Jim.
The worst thing i've seen posted about him is quality not quantity, which is no bad thing at all.

Weather continued health problems is a factor is stopping Jim from working is an issue that will naturally be debated by fans.
Enquiring minds want to know

But as long as this is one in a respectful and in no way in breach of Jim's privacy, I can't see a problem.

I don't believe the fans have a right to know if Jim is unwell.
If you don't believe that try ringing Jim's doctor and demand to know how he is (how Jimmy that is, not the doctor).
When you explain you are not a relative or personal friend, but you are a fan, see how long it takes for him to hang up.

Jim could end any speculation with a statement, but if he is not comfortable doing that right now, we can only wait and see what happens.

Pudding · 26 May 2009, 23:44

I know Meats posts, I'm interested in knowing who madhatterster is referring to with his(or hers) 'someone here' comment.

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

The worst thing i've seen posted about him is quality not quantity, which is no bad thing at all.

You mean quantity not quality

as the way you've put it implies Jim writes a lot and it's shit :)

Pud

**The Flying Mouse** · 27 May 2009, 00:12

Jim Steinman writes quality, not in quantity.

Think that's right the first time

Pudding · 27 May 2009, 00:16

Yes he does, which is why "The worst thing i've seen posted about him is quality not quantity" is ass backwards

Pud

renegadeangel · 27 May 2009, 00:23

Maybe so but I truly believe that we've seen his best.

**The Flying Mouse** · 27 May 2009, 00:53

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Yes he does, which is why "The worst thing i've seen posted about him is quality not quantity" is ass backwards

Pud

Hey, Yoda hacked my account, what can you do when that happens?

You might notice that during Yoda's reign, every account with the user name Darth (something) has been banned

Pudding · 27 May 2009, 01:10

Just to backtrack myself a bit, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that pre-Bat1 era Jims musicals were based more on quantity rather than quality, as for the most part they were shit with only a few exceptional songs.

Pud

AndrewG · 27 May 2009, 01:34

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Just to backtrack myself a bit, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that pre-Bat1 era Jims musicals were based more on quantity rather than quality, as for the most part they were shit with only a few exceptional songs.

Pud

Very true.

I think maybe Jim became a bit of a perfectionist after Bat 1, only going ahead finishing and producing a song if he thought it was really good.

Think the Steinman is done statment is rubbish actually. It was only in 2005 I heard "What Part of My Body..." and in 2006 that I heard "Vespers/Angels Arise". Both amazing pieces of music and rank amongst Steinman's best imo.

Also a lot of artists / songwriters simply get less prolific in their older days (Billy Joel / Mark Knopfler (the Dire Straits stuff of the early 80s was much more interesting and musically complex than what he is doing now) / Elton John).

rockfenris2005 · 27 May 2009, 11:18

Sorry, I just think it's disrespectful whoever said "Steinman is done". It is my opinion that no artist is done until he or she is dead. They just change...

Pudding · 27 May 2009, 12:45

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Originally Posted by madhatterster

Sorry, I just think it's disrespectful whoever said "Steinman is done". It is my opinion that no artist is done until he or she is dead. They just change...

Thanks for that Ryan/Rockfenris or whichever incarnation you are now

Pud

rockfenris2005 · 27 May 2009, 15:07

I forgot my old password and the old email was hacked into. I don't DO incarnations.

Pudding · 28 May 2009, 01:20

On the homepage there's a 'Contact' option at the top, did you try contacting admin to sort your password out? Also did you contact admin to say who you really are once the new account was set up? NO?...well there's a shocker

Pud

rockfenris2005 · 28 May 2009, 03:56

Please stop.

*AndyK* · 28 May 2009, 10:53

I'm not asking you both to stop this, I'm telling you to stop this. There's a difference, and if neither of you are grown up enough to understand that difference I suggest you log off and stay away.

If you can't debate the subject without getting personal then don't bother. Stick to the facts or the theories as you know them, cut out the bullshit, cut out the dramatics, cut out the personal stuff.

I'm not going to watch this thread or this forum descend into the flame wars and bitching that other places do at times. It ends now.

Thank you

WhenItComes2LovingU · 28 May 2009, 13:34

"Cut out the dramatics!
You know very well who..."

Sorry. Jesus Christ Superstar fan. If I see a phrase, you'll see a lyric from the show.

11 May 2009, 13:32	#30
lorenzoduke Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.07.2006 Posts: 1,269	I doubt that any of us would be surprised if Jim never wrote another song. As others have said, he's never been very prolific, but I'd take quality over quantity any day, and Steinman's written more great songs than most. If he is done, so be it.

25 May 2009, 05:39	#31
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	I think someone here needs to read Fireball's post regarding Jim...

25 May 2009, 10:08	#32
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Who would that be? and why? Pud

25 May 2009, 13:40	#33
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,194	And which post in particular?

25 May 2009, 16:43	#34
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Sorry about the mad hatter - he can't afford to watch anyone taken off the pedestal he's raised for them.

27 May 2009, 00:12	#38
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Jim Steinman writes quality, not in quantity. Think that's right the first time

27 May 2009, 00:16	#39
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Yes he does, which is why "The worst thing i've seen posted about him is quality not quantity" is ass backwards Pud

27 May 2009, 00:23	#40
renegadeangel Super Loafer Join Date: 18.05.2006 Posts: 604	Maybe so but I truly believe that we've seen his best.

27 May 2009, 01:10	#42
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Just to backtrack myself a bit, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that pre-Bat1 era Jims musicals were based more on quantity rather than quality, as for the most part they were shit with only a few exceptional songs. Pud

27 May 2009, 11:18	#44
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Sorry, I just think it's disrespectful whoever said "Steinman is done". It is my opinion that no artist is done until he or she is dead. They just change...

27 May 2009, 15:07	#46
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	I forgot my old password and the old email was hacked into. I don't DO incarnations.

28 May 2009, 01:20	#47
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	On the homepage there's a 'Contact' option at the top, did you try contacting admin to sort your password out? Also did you contact admin to say who you really are once the new account was set up? NO?...well there's a shocker Pud

28 May 2009, 03:56	#48
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Please stop.

28 May 2009, 10:53	#49
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	I'm not asking you both to stop this, I'm telling you to stop this. There's a difference, and if neither of you are grown up enough to understand that difference I suggest you log off and stay away. If you can't debate the subject without getting personal then don't bother. Stick to the facts or the theories as you know them, cut out the bullshit, cut out the dramatics, cut out the personal stuff. I'm not going to watch this thread or this forum descend into the flame wars and bitching that other places do at times. It ends now. Thank you

28 May 2009, 13:34	#50
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	"Cut out the dramatics! You know very well who..." Sorry. Jesus Christ Superstar fan. If I see a phrase, you'll see a lyric from the show.