06 Dec 2006, 14:58
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Mega Loafer
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STOP...IN THE NAME OF LOVE!!!
OR FOR CRYING OUT LOUD...
I am a relative newbie on this site...been here only about 8 months. In these 8 months...I've found a new home, a new family and some out of this world fantastic friends. People who don't just share my love for Meat Loaf, Steinman and their art...but also people who cried with me when I was low and laughed with me when I was happy. People who supported me and held my hand. People who I have supported and held THEIR hand. Still do... This is my special place where I can get away from the dull and sometimes harsh reality of every day life and just relax and be happy. I've heard rumors about people splitting and leaving this site in the past. I couldn't figure out why. Now I know... Recently...new trend has started here...bickering, mud slinging, personal attacks...ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that actually turns you off people and human society in general... Threads started appearing that lead to nothing but ruination of love and friendship existent here. Posts that tear old friends apart and don't give new ones a chance to stick around and get to know us...and for us to get to know them. And who knows...maybe there is a new Meat Loaf or Steinman or...even GOD...among us...and we will never find it out... Well...as the old saying goes...can we PLEASE try to get along??? We've been together for a while now...and something brings us back together...I think most of us love and respect each other to bits and pieces...and yet...we tear each other apart. It always seems that we are destructive towards the very things in life that we treasure...no exception here. Can we all please just do following for the sake of preserving this site as our home and us - as friends: 1. If you feel that thread will cause controversy...think twice about posting it...and HOW to post it in inoffensive manner. 2. If you feel that you're getting into an argument with one other member...or if you have questions about their behavior...please take it into the PM...chances are it's just a misunderstanding and you will be able to clear it out between the two of you much better than with other people involved. 3. Infraction system has been explained time and time again. Read the thread again...understand it finally...and please move on with your lives. It is a test of a system. Software DOES NOT decide points and such...mods and admins still do. AND...there is still plenty of leeway for those who chose to respect this site and it's admins/mods. Please...move on...nothing to see there. Posts about goldfish and such just keep this thread alive for no particular reason. 4. Before posting something negative on the thread...please think of how it will affect other people...click reply...type your post...re-read it a few times...post it if you feel it's ok...if not...go on without posting...you've already typed it...you already got it out of your system...it's a done deal... 5. Please...try not to go on and on and on on the same subject. Expressing your opinion once is enough...we got your point...thank you for posting. Unless there is something new to say...please don't say it...or say it in PM to whoever you think should hear it again. Alright...these are just my thoughts of how to keep this forum going and for us to remain friends if not forever...then for a very very long time... Please feel free to express here your thoughts and ideas of how to keep our friendships intact and keep ourselves from murdering each other. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD...YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU!!!
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06 Dec 2006, 15:06
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Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half.
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06 Dec 2006, 15:14
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life is one big adventure
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thanks Zina,
you have written what my thoughts were the last few days..only my english isn't always good enough to make a post like that.. thanks once again. C. |
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06 Dec 2006, 15:15
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The Monster Is Luce
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Zina you're not the only feeling like that, and I assure you that if this continues I can give you a list of people who will no longer be using this forum.
I come on here to - amongst other things - relax, and to chat about something that means a lot to me, but unfortunately there is a minority of people who seem to thrive on controversy and posting utter crap which makes for extremely grim reading. So sadly Zina, you're right, a lot of people are going to be disappearing... |
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06 Dec 2006, 15:21
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Mega Loafer
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So I DO hope people will stay...just re-evaluate their priorities and their relatioships here... Please please please...prove me wrong!!! |
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06 Dec 2006, 15:21
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Invisible again!
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You got that right......
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06 Dec 2006, 15:23
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The German
Join Date: 11.03.2006
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I couldnt say anything that hasnt been said alraedy.
Thanks for your thoughts and I think this thread is worth a sticky! Mods? Edit: I used to try to register on other music related fan forums or forums in general, but soon I left everyone of these sites again, because the expressed attitude was very rude and a politeness or friendly handeling of other people was missing there. This is really a GREAT forum with GREAT people, dont let us destroy it! |
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06 Dec 2006, 15:44
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Mega Loafer
Join Date: 17.01.2006
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i come her because i'm a fan from meat loaf and his band. I like to talk with other people about it, in a positive way... why i like his music etc. This site never felt like a home to me untill i met fans at RAH. Now some people are a little bit closer to me. I personaly don't feel the negative things as much as mszee is talking about, but perhaps that is because i don't understand everything what's been said, and i don't read everything. I think that there must be room for a little negative posts, because it's an openion. If that is written with reasons why somebody feels that way, it's oke with me. But just shouting it stinks.... that's to easy. Attacking people on a forum is just not done! ignore him/her is better for everybody's health
 Don't forget what this is all about, the thing that has brought us together: Meat Loaf!let's keep rocking! |
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06 Dec 2006, 16:41
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"Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway"
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finally a post to make some sense about the good the bad and the downright craziness of the last while...
only thing is i've now got the tune of the title of this thread in my head and it won't stop...which is not got cause i think diana ross is annoying 
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06 Dec 2006, 18:18
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The Monster Is Luce
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06 Dec 2006, 18:36
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Thread Killer
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Thanks mszee, that was very well put.
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06 Dec 2006, 19:11
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Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart
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I'm also still new to this site, but i would say i have found a place i can share my love of Meat Loaf and all things related. Also i hope i get on well with everyone on here.
I think it's a great site to get info that you just otherwise don't get. Unfortunatly i can't see thing's changing there are quite a few on here who have issues that i feel won't stop being negative. All you can do is avoid a post you don't like, an opinion is just that not a fact or a truth you just have to live with it even if you don't agree. There is more positive people on here than negative so let's hope like me any new member's will see this and give the site a chance. 
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06 Dec 2006, 20:17
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Super Loafer
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Well said, Mszee.
I don't post here much.. compared to other ML websites I belong too, because the general negativity here, a good deal of the time, makes me uneasy and on gaurd about what I say... because I feel that,there are a "few" who cannot wait to jump on anything you say.. I do like this site though, so if we COULD just let go of the negative energy around here, it would be a much NICER place to visit, for everyone. J. |
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06 Dec 2006, 20:46
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Massive Loafer
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Well said Mszee
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06 Dec 2006, 22:07
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No Day But Today
Join Date: 29.05.2006
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Zina, you summed up my thoughts in one.
I come here because of my love of Meat Loaf, and when I say that I mean it's respected and I feel it a real honour that we not only have Meat Loaf visit every so often but Paul also, this is precious and I think with this in consideration alot more care should be taken when posting because as pointed out before, Meat doesn't have to come here but he want's to, it's his way of giving something very personal back and think for a minute how he must feel when he comes here and see's his so called fans (And I am bunching a handful in that because 99% of us treat him with the kindness and respect he deserves) slander his work and call his hard work for want of a better word 'crap', and though that's an opinion and I respect that just think if this was you who had worked really hard and put yourself out there and then read negativity like that and yes I have seen Meat loose it completelly once and that totally upset me. But that aside I think the internet can be a dangerous tool sometimes and when you express an opinion it can sometimes be misconceived as an insult or abusive when that wasn't your intent. I don't know but thanks Zina for making this thread. I really hope we can maintain a strong unit and keep all friendships together. More importantly keep Meat here. Because I find it such an honour that he cares enough to come here, I really do. |
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06 Dec 2006, 22:11
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Hello Harry!!!!
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Well said Zina Lets loose the negativity and start looking forward to having a great time next year with the tour!! Well said Rosie we are all fans and not critics!!
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06 Dec 2006, 22:17
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Mega Loafer
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06 Dec 2006, 22:24
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Anything for Sir Meat Loaf
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You said it Zina. There are some people on here that I don't really care for so I just avoid them. No problem. There are some people on here that I really do love talking to so I just talk to them. Bashing people should stop, do the PM thing instead. I have been reading some of the post thinking, "What are they talking about" "It make no sense" "How negative can some people be" You have problems with someone make it private. When I first came here, all the negativity, I almost stopped coming. Just think twice before ranting and raving on here.
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06 Dec 2006, 22:25
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Hello Harry!!!!
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Sorry long day and very hungry!! Whose gonna sue first!!!
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06 Dec 2006, 22:28
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Mega Loafer
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Think we should eat something before it goes to court? |
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06 Dec 2006, 23:28
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Hello Harry!!!!
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06 Dec 2006, 23:52
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Anything for Sir Meat Loaf
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I do know that my best friend left this site and will never come back because of all the horrible incredible down right nasty negative PMs she received when she did a post. I don't blame her but just get past it and move on. I was like that too, staying away from the chat room because of someone but HEY let's get beyond that, I have. An opinion is an opinion, please don't jump down people's throats.
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07 Dec 2006, 00:01
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I'm A Prize Fight Lover...
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Hmmmmm, there's a few things about the initial post that has me curious, reasons, timing, is there certain elements that's hypocritical etc etc
It's a nice idea and all that, don't get me wrong, a little too Partridge Family though. Pud
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07 Dec 2006, 00:08
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Mega Loafer
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Timing: is perfect...maybe I wore blinkers before - who knows...but just now noticed what is going on here Comment on hyporctirical elements: I am not just an author of this thread...I am it's reader too...whatever I said initially...applies to me too and hopefully will be implemented by me in the nearest future... And you know what...at the end of the day...there was nothing wrong with Partrige Family... |
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07 Dec 2006, 00:21
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I'm A Prize Fight Lover...
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I think to get at the root cause of the problem, you need to find out what happened lately to cause the board to go the way it has. But ot be honest, I don't see much difference in how the board is now than say 2 years ago.
To Chris: Did you're best friend report the person who made the nasty horrible PM's to the Mods? I'm assuming you're talking about Tina and that if she can log in as you, you can do likewise and if so you should forward the messages on and get that person reported. Oh and before anyone starts assuming it was me who sent her a PM, it wasn't. How's you're broken right hand and shattered left arm doing? Also is there any update on the prosecution of the attacker? Pud
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