4. Jim - Bad For Good

White of High · 22 Mar 2003, 19:50

Bad For Good (9)

What a great song? If Meat sing it would be 10! I know it isn't so good like BOOH but very nice. I have got only one problem. I think the last fast period in the end wasn't necessary. Jim has should finished it like BOOH.
My fav lines are next:

I'll be bad for good (God speed)
I'll be bad for good (God speed)
I'll be bad for good (God speed)
Speed us away, speed us away, speed us away, speed us away

I love Meat's live version but I miss these lines. The live is a great deal better with "Original Sin" than the original. If Meat and Jim would write onto BOOH3 with orchestra...

My score: 9

Tim · 22 Mar 2003, 19:57

Indeed a great song, STeinman sings it okay, not a great voice but one hell of a nummer, and then ML performed the song also some times. That version is great, also the DAnce In My Pants version is great from Meat Loaf........

I will also give it a 9.

And you know "i will be bad for good!"

Dick · 22 Mar 2003, 20:07

Yep a 9, if meat sings 10.

Raptor · 22 Mar 2003, 20:13

9/10 with Jim, 10/10 with Meat.

Bart · 22 Mar 2003, 20:59

'i wasn't built for comfort i was built for speed'

'and you think that i'll be bad for just a little while, but i know that i'll be bad for good'.

God, what a lyrics. Wonderful! although the melody is kinda like Born to Run from Bruce Springsteen. The part 'baby we were born to run' sounds like "i know that i'll be bad for good'.

and it also sounds like Bat out of hell. "Like a booh! (i'll be gone when the morning comes') is same as : 'i know that i'll be bad for good (and for just a little while)'.

But who cares. It is great and that is all that matters. 7 for jim and 10 for meats live version.

Michel · 23 Mar 2003, 14:45

Amazing song. Especially the Meat version. More powerfull. Meat has just the better voice.

My score: 9
Meat's version: 10

Bart · 23 Mar 2003, 21:26

ofcourse! he has the best voice! that's why he is Meat...

Ben · 24 Mar 2003, 12:16

DOES ANYBODY AGREE THAT MEAT SHOULD RECORD THE WHOLE 'BAD FOR GOOD' ALBUM? SEEINGS THAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE, I KNOW HE HAS RECORDED SOME OF THE SONGS ON LATER ALBUMNS BUT THE WHOLE LOT WOULD BE GREAT. ESPECIALLY BAD FOR GOOD AND DANCE IN MY PANTS!

BAD FOR GOOD - GREAT SONG!! ID GIVE JIMMY A 9 FOR IT!

Bart · 24 Mar 2003, 14:02

how you guys can give jim a 9 and meat a 10! jim has a weak voice. do you call yourself a meatloaf fan. i just do not understand it. is there only 1 point difference between "the voice"and the "writer"? So if jim would sing Bat out of hell you give him an 9?? and meat a 10???

Michel · 24 Mar 2003, 14:11

You can't give a higher score than 10.

Bart · 24 Mar 2003, 14:27

than you have to give jim a lower figure just to show the difference.

Raptor · 24 Mar 2003, 16:00

Jim's voice aint that bad in the song. Of course Meat has a better voice but jim sings the song well.

**The Flying Mouse** · 02 Apr 2003, 19:36

I wish that Meat would put this on an album.
Jimmy is a great songwritter,but Meat has always been Jim's voice.
I feel sorry for Jim.For a guy to have so much talent and a hunger to sing,but to never have great success as an artist is a real shame.But you can't have everything.Still it's all for the best.If Jim could deliver his songs himself he may never have teamed up with Meat.
Jim's 6.5/10 Not bad.
Meat's 10/10 For good.

rockfenris2005 · 03 Apr 2003, 14:55

To all those who are interested:

BAD FOR GOOD's origins stem back as far as 1969,
When the "For the Good of a..." and "God Speed" sections
Were heard as: SONG OF THE DREAM ENGINE from
Jim Steinman's college musical THE DREAM ENGINE.
These same phrases appear in GIVE ME THE SIMPLE LIFE,
The opening song from MORE THAN YOU DESERVE - Another
Jim musical. The "God Speed" part was put to BEST USE as
The chorus for EDGING INTO DARKNESS - a unique aria from
Steinman's 80s musical THE CONFIDENCE MAN.

P.S.
I don't like the Meat Loaf (live)version ONE BIT!

Bart · 10 Jul 2003, 16:49

yes, you like it. i know it. your denial is just too much.

Evan · 10 Jul 2003, 17:58

Ok first things first, Meat wouldn't know how to sing theatrical rock if it wasn't for Jim Steinman. I'd love to hear Meat record this song but Jimmy's version will always be better because as much as all of you don't want to admit it, no one sings a Jim Steinman song like Jim Steinman. It doesn't matter if you think he has a weak voice, it's about displaying the character in the songs feelings and emotions. Just put on "Left In The Dark" by Jimmy and let his voice do the talking. Meat's live version is good until he slows it down completely at the end, he also should've kept in the "god speed" part. Anyway.

Jimmy's version I give a perfect 10/10

Michel · 10 Jul 2003, 23:22

I have a live version of Meat with the God Speed part. That version is better by far than Jim's original.

Terri · 10 Jul 2003, 23:54

I love this song, brilliant lyrics!

Jim's 7/10

Meat's 10/10

Bart · 11 Jul 2003, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan

Ok first things first, Meat wouldn't know how to sing theatrical rock if it wasn't for Jim Steinman. I'd love to hear Meat record this song but Jimmy's version will always be better because as much as all of you don't want to admit it, no one sings a Jim Steinman song like Jim Steinman.

Jimmy's version I give a perfect 10/10

I have never heard anything ridicilous like this. Jim only sings the album cause he was forced to do it. Not because he thinks he is a great performer.

Evan · 11 Jul 2003, 10:37

that isn't ridiculous at all. Yes Jim only sang the album because he was forced to, but he taught Meat how to sing theatrical rock, let's take this topic to Meat shall we?

Sue K · 11 Jul 2003, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan

Ok first things first, Meat wouldn't know how to sing theatrical rock if it wasn't for Jim Steinman. I'd love to hear Meat record this song but Jimmy's version will always be better because as much as all of you don't want to admit it, no one sings a Jim Steinman song like Jim Steinman. It doesn't matter if you think he has a weak voice, it's about displaying the character in the songs feelings and emotions. Just put on "Left In The Dark" by Jimmy and let his voice do the talking. Meat's live version is good until he slows it down completely at the end, he also should've kept in the "god speed" part. Anyway.

Jimmy's version I give a perfect 10/10

sorry..i MUST step in here..when it comes to LEFT IN THE DARK...i have BAD FOR GOOD..and have listened to the version on there...imo...jimmy's voice ...may be filled with ..shaky emotion...but it is nasally...and he has difficulty hitting some of the notes...it is..imo..nearly unlistenable...LEFT IN THE DARK..."belongs" to Meat..sorry....

now DANCE IN MY PANTS...have never heard Meat's version...however...i thoroughly enjoy jimmy doing this song...it's a fun..rockin' ..witty song...and the video is great too....

tink...XO

Evan · 11 Jul 2003, 13:34

Left In The Dark belongs to Meat???
Ok, let's trade the Bad For Good's really great orchestra and opening monlogue that both truly display the character in the songs jealousy, for the Welcome To The Neighborhood's really sickening guitars. The way that Jimmy sings that song when he gets to "I know that you love me.." just gives me chills. Meat could've cut a great version of the song had Steinman produced it.

Shane · 12 Jul 2003, 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan

Left In The Dark belongs to Meat???
Ok, let's trade the Bad For Good's really great orchestra and opening monlogue that both truly display the character in the songs jealousy, for the Welcome To The Neighborhood's really sickening guitars. The way that Jimmy sings that song when he gets to "I know that you love me.." just gives me chills. Meat could've cut a great version of the song had Steinman produced it.

I prefer the arrangement/instrumentation on Jim's version, but I prefer Meat's voice.

Shane · 12 Jul 2003, 03:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan

that isn't ridiculous at all. Yes Jim only sang the album because he was forced to, but he taught Meat how to sing theatrical rock, let's take this topic to Meat shall we?

He taught Meat to sing theatrical rock?

Michel · 12 Jul 2003, 12:57

I can't believe that. Meat did musicals before he met Jim, and I absolutely don't think Jim thaught him that. But maybe we can ask Meat about it.

22 Mar 2003, 19:50	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	4. Jim - Bad For Good Bad For Good (9) What a great song? If Meat sing it would be 10! I know it isn't so good like BOOH but very nice. I have got only one problem. I think the last fast period in the end wasn't necessary. Jim has should finished it like BOOH. My fav lines are next: I'll be bad for good (God speed) I'll be bad for good (God speed) I'll be bad for good (God speed) Speed us away, speed us away, speed us away, speed us away I love Meat's live version but I miss these lines. The live is a great deal better with "Original Sin" than the original. If Meat and Jim would write onto BOOH3 with orchestra... My score: 9

22 Mar 2003, 19:57	#2
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Indeed a great song, STeinman sings it okay, not a great voice but one hell of a nummer, and then ML performed the song also some times. That version is great, also the DAnce In My Pants version is great from Meat Loaf........ I will also give it a 9. And you know "i will be bad for good!"

22 Mar 2003, 20:07	#3
Dick Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Donaghadee, Northern Ireland Posts: 385	Yep a 9, if meat sings 10.

22 Mar 2003, 20:13	#4
Raptor Junior Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2002 Location: Cymru Posts: 42	9/10 with Jim, 10/10 with Meat.

22 Mar 2003, 20:59	#5
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	'i wasn't built for comfort i was built for speed' 'and you think that i'll be bad for just a little while, but i know that i'll be bad for good'. God, what a lyrics. Wonderful! although the melody is kinda like Born to Run from Bruce Springsteen. The part 'baby we were born to run' sounds like "i know that i'll be bad for good'. and it also sounds like Bat out of hell. "Like a booh! (i'll be gone when the morning comes') is same as : 'i know that i'll be bad for good (and for just a little while)'. But who cares. It is great and that is all that matters. 7 for jim and 10 for meats live version.

23 Mar 2003, 14:45	#6
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	Amazing song. Especially the Meat version. More powerfull. Meat has just the better voice. My score: 9 Meat's version: 10

23 Mar 2003, 21:26	#7
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	ofcourse! he has the best voice! that's why he is Meat...

24 Mar 2003, 12:16	#8
Ben Mega Loafer Join Date: 19.03.2003 Location: Kent, England Posts: 4,163	DOES ANYBODY AGREE THAT MEAT SHOULD RECORD THE WHOLE 'BAD FOR GOOD' ALBUM? SEEINGS THAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE, I KNOW HE HAS RECORDED SOME OF THE SONGS ON LATER ALBUMNS BUT THE WHOLE LOT WOULD BE GREAT. ESPECIALLY BAD FOR GOOD AND DANCE IN MY PANTS! BAD FOR GOOD - GREAT SONG!! ID GIVE JIMMY A 9 FOR IT!

24 Mar 2003, 14:02	#9
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	how you guys can give jim a 9 and meat a 10! jim has a weak voice. do you call yourself a meatloaf fan. i just do not understand it. is there only 1 point difference between "the voice"and the "writer"? So if jim would sing Bat out of hell you give him an 9?? and meat a 10???

24 Mar 2003, 14:11	#10
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	You can't give a higher score than 10.

24 Mar 2003, 14:27	#11
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	than you have to give jim a lower figure just to show the difference.

24 Mar 2003, 16:00	#12
Raptor Junior Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2002 Location: Cymru Posts: 42	Jim's voice aint that bad in the song. Of course Meat has a better voice but jim sings the song well.

02 Apr 2003, 19:36	#13
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I wish that Meat would put this on an album. Jimmy is a great songwritter,but Meat has always been Jim's voice. I feel sorry for Jim.For a guy to have so much talent and a hunger to sing,but to never have great success as an artist is a real shame.But you can't have everything.Still it's all for the best.If Jim could deliver his songs himself he may never have teamed up with Meat. Jim's 6.5/10 Not bad. Meat's 10/10 For good.

03 Apr 2003, 14:55	#14
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	To all those who are interested: BAD FOR GOOD's origins stem back as far as 1969, When the "For the Good of a..." and "God Speed" sections Were heard as: SONG OF THE DREAM ENGINE from Jim Steinman's college musical THE DREAM ENGINE. These same phrases appear in GIVE ME THE SIMPLE LIFE, The opening song from MORE THAN YOU DESERVE - Another Jim musical. The "God Speed" part was put to BEST USE as The chorus for EDGING INTO DARKNESS - a unique aria from Steinman's 80s musical THE CONFIDENCE MAN. P.S. I don't like the Meat Loaf (live)version ONE BIT!

10 Jul 2003, 16:49	#15
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	yes, you like it. i know it. your denial is just too much.

10 Jul 2003, 17:58	#16
Evan Super Loafer Join Date: 03.07.2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 216	Ok first things first, Meat wouldn't know how to sing theatrical rock if it wasn't for Jim Steinman. I'd love to hear Meat record this song but Jimmy's version will always be better because as much as all of you don't want to admit it, no one sings a Jim Steinman song like Jim Steinman. It doesn't matter if you think he has a weak voice, it's about displaying the character in the songs feelings and emotions. Just put on "Left In The Dark" by Jimmy and let his voice do the talking. Meat's live version is good until he slows it down completely at the end, he also should've kept in the "god speed" part. Anyway. Jimmy's version I give a perfect 10/10

10 Jul 2003, 23:22	#17
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	I have a live version of Meat with the God Speed part. That version is better by far than Jim's original.

10 Jul 2003, 23:54	#18
Terri Super T Join Date: 14.05.2003 Posts: 1,235	I love this song, brilliant lyrics! Jim's 7/10 Meat's 10/10

11 Jul 2003, 10:37	#20
Evan Super Loafer Join Date: 03.07.2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 216	that isn't ridiculous at all. Yes Jim only sang the album because he was forced to, but he taught Meat how to sing theatrical rock, let's take this topic to Meat shall we?

11 Jul 2003, 13:34	#22
Evan Super Loafer Join Date: 03.07.2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 216	Left In The Dark belongs to Meat??? Ok, let's trade the Bad For Good's really great orchestra and opening monlogue that both truly display the character in the songs jealousy, for the Welcome To The Neighborhood's really sickening guitars. The way that Jimmy sings that song when he gets to "I know that you love me.." just gives me chills. Meat could've cut a great version of the song had Steinman produced it.

12 Jul 2003, 12:57	#25
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	I can't believe that. Meat did musicals before he met Jim, and I absolutely don't think Jim thaught him that. But maybe we can ask Meat about it.