Best Meat concert on DVD

L96 · 19 Apr 2006, 23:25

*Excluding* MSO. We all know that's good.

Aside from MSO, what is the best concert of Meat's that has been released? Which is the one I absolutely MUST own on DVD?

Recommendations please!

**RadioMaster** · 19 Apr 2006, 23:37

I thought MSO was the only released concert DVD?
The only other i know is Storytellers, but for me that´s not a real concert. There are just a few people and Meat don´t act like he whould in a big concert hall.

Caelan · 19 Apr 2006, 23:42

but the storytellers is great anyway

**RadioMaster** · 19 Apr 2006, 23:48

Yeah, but i don´t count it as a concert DVD it´s more like a documentary

AndrewG · 20 Apr 2006, 00:12

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Originally Posted by Radiomaster

Yeah, but i don´t count it as a concert DVD it´s more like a documentary

Why? it's a 2 hour show, just a lot more intimate than usual with some stories thrown in. He did a whole tour with these shows.

I think we should also appreciate that Meat has only really released one single new studio album (CHSIB) since DVD sales have taken of. Unlike many artists who have cashed in on older concert releases at least Meat has provided us with two new live DVDs while the DVD format has been established and not forgetting two live cds which compliment these releases. If you had told me ten years ago Meat would be releasing a live show on a digital format that does not exist yet in 2004 with an orchestra performing all the Bat out of Hell tracks I would not have believed it! (I still don't believe I have this in my collection!)

With the release of the Blu Ray format this year I think it is safe to say we will see some wonderful stuff complimenting the Bat 3 release first on DVD and probably later on this new format. I think Meat has been very generous in releasing these live DVDs and doing these tours and the fact that more is on the horizon really excites me.

Lotus, which one you should get??? All of them of course!!!
DVDs
MSO
Storytellers
Bat out of hell Classic Albums DVD (includes Heaven can Wait live in Netherlands 1994).
Bat out of hell videos DVD

Videos: Bat 2 picture show, 1985 live show, 1981 live show

+ all the live cds
etc....etc..

Jayd · 20 Apr 2006, 00:39

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Originally Posted by Musicman

Why? it's a 2 hour show, just a lot more intimate than usual with some stories thrown in. He did a whole tour with these shows.

I think we should also appreciate that Meat has only really released one single new studio album (CHSIB) since DVD sales have taken of. Unlike many artists who have cashed in on older concert releases at least Meat has provided us with two new live DVDs while the DVD format has been established and not forgetting two live cds which compliment these releases. If you had told me ten years ago Meat would be releasing a live show on a digital format that does not exist yet in 2004 with an orchestra performing all the Bat out of Hell tracks I would not have believed it! (I still don't believe I have this in my collection!)

With the release of the Blu Ray format this year I think it is safe to say we will see some wonderful stuff complimenting the Bat 3 release first on DVD and probably later on this new format. I think Meat has been very generous in releasing these live DVDs and doing these tours and the fact that more is on the horizon really excites me.

Lotus, which one you should get??? All of them of course!!!
DVDs
MSO
Storytellers
Bat out of hell Classic Albums DVD (includes Heaven can Wait live in Netherlands 1994).
Bat out of hell videos DVD

Videos: Bat 2 picture show, 1985 live show, 1981 live show

+ all the live cds
etc....etc..

I think it will be a while before we see anything like this on Blu-ray. This is a brand new media, which currently is having it's own problems, (manufacture, costs). Blu-ray will concentrate on films to start with along with PS3 games.
Possibly a DVD release of something, but Blu-ray material will be quite a while off yet.

PrissLoaf · 20 Apr 2006, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by lotus96

*Excluding* MSO. We all know that's good.

Aside from MSO, what is the best concert of Meat's that has been released? Which is the one I absolutely MUST own on DVD?

Recommendations please!

I *heart* Storytellers. I've watched it countless times.

*AndyK* · 20 Apr 2006, 10:21

Although it's not on DVD I'd say the Bad Attitude tour video from 1985 rates up there amongst the best (ie close to the MSO DVD), not only is Meat in fine form, but I (along with a couple of other forum members) was in the crowd

**RadioMaster** · 20 Apr 2006, 11:01

I´d really like to see a live dvd/vhs/whatever of one of the early concerts of 77 or 78. That´d be great.

L96 · 20 Apr 2006, 11:03

Thanks for all the answers, guys, and that is a winning argument for Bad Attitude, AndyK!

Which of those listed so far is the best rocker, the one that just goes off?

*AndyK* · 20 Apr 2006, 11:35

Actually, in the interests of forum tidiness this really belongs in TT&BH ...

I'd say it's a close call between the MSO and Bad Attitude for best rocker ... Bad Attitude is perhaps a more raw rock concert whereas the MSO is a much more polished performance.

L96 · 20 Apr 2006, 11:38

Given MSO is excluded from the debate, that's one very firm vote Bad Attitude then.

Anyone objecting/having a different point of view?

**RadioMaster** · 20 Apr 2006, 11:40

does anyone know where i could get the BAVHS from? I looked for it at amazon. but they don´t got it.

*AndyK* · 20 Apr 2006, 11:46

Your best bet these days is Ebay ...

L96 · 20 Apr 2006, 11:55

*Brief side note - If I want VHS from Ebay, is that like DVD and have to be designed for the local electronics, or whatever the hell it is that makes a difference?

**RadioMaster** · 20 Apr 2006, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by lotus96

*Brief side note - If I want VHS from Ebay, is that like DVD and have to be designed for the local electronics, or whatever the hell it is that makes a difference?

The only technical difference could be between PAL and NTSC and... does SECAM still exist?

L96 · 20 Apr 2006, 11:58

Huh?

**RadioMaster** · 20 Apr 2006, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by lotus96

Huh?

didn´t you want to know that?

*AndyK* · 20 Apr 2006, 12:03

PAL and NTSC are indeed differing formats of VHS. The states runs on NTSC and the UK on PAL (not sure about down under at all). Having said that most modern VHS machines these days will play both formats.

L96 · 20 Apr 2006, 12:04

I did, I'd just like to understand it.

PAL/NTSC is a menu option on my DVD player (which doesn't help with VHS) that makes no difference that I can see to my playback.

What does that have to do with VHS? And what is SECAM? Actually, is it even necessary I know that?

**RadioMaster** · 20 Apr 2006, 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

PAL and NTSC are indeed differing formats of VHS. The states runs on NTSC and the UK on PAL (not sure about down under at all). Having said that most modern VHS machines these days will play both formats.

I CHSIB myself!
The only thing that i´d like to add is that most of the european countries run PAL, too.
My VRC just runs PAL cassettes, i cant play NTSC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus96

And what is SECAM?

SECAM was once the VHS system that was used in france, but i haven´t heard of it a long time. I actually don´t know if still exists, thatswhy i asked.

Bart · 20 Apr 2006, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

Although it's not on DVD I'd say the Bad Attitude tour video from 1985 rates up there amongst the best (ie close to the MSO DVD), not only is Meat in fine form, but I (along with a couple of other forum members) was in the crowd

I hate some camera angles.
Meat looks and sounds fanfockingtastic.

*AndyK* · 20 Apr 2006, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Bart

I hate some camera angles.

You've got to remember that

a) it was recorded some 20+ years ago when camera, grip and editing technology wasn't as advanced as it is today.

and

b) Brixton Academy where it is filmed is a pig of a venue for setting up cameras, there are very few decent vantage points The concert was also filmed "live" over one night and not over two consecutive shows as per the MSO DVD. There was no second chance with shots on the Bad Attitude concert.

Bart · 20 Apr 2006, 14:14

Yeah you are right. But I still hate some of it

L96 · 20 Apr 2006, 14:43

So, that's 2.7 votes for BA, and 0 for anything else.

Is SECAM like BETA?

And should I order fries with that?

19 Apr 2006, 23:25	#1
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	Best Meat concert on DVD Excluding MSO. We all know that's good. Aside from MSO, what is the best concert of Meat's that has been released? Which is the one I absolutely MUST own on DVD? Recommendations please!

19 Apr 2006, 23:37	#2
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I thought MSO was the only released concert DVD? The only other i know is Storytellers, but for me that´s not a real concert. There are just a few people and Meat don´t act like he whould in a big concert hall.

19 Apr 2006, 23:42	#3
Caelan life is one big adventure Join Date: 23.06.2005 Location: some town in Alberta called Leduc Posts: 5,550	but the storytellers is great anyway

19 Apr 2006, 23:48	#4
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Yeah, but i don´t count it as a concert DVD it´s more like a documentary

20 Apr 2006, 10:21	#8
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Although it's not on DVD I'd say the Bad Attitude tour video from 1985 rates up there amongst the best (ie close to the MSO DVD), not only is Meat in fine form, but I (along with a couple of other forum members) was in the crowd

20 Apr 2006, 11:01	#9
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I´d really like to see a live dvd/vhs/whatever of one of the early concerts of 77 or 78. That´d be great.

20 Apr 2006, 11:03	#10
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	Thanks for all the answers, guys, and that is a winning argument for Bad Attitude, AndyK! Which of those listed so far is the best rocker, the one that just goes off?

20 Apr 2006, 11:35	#11
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Actually, in the interests of forum tidiness this really belongs in TT&BH ... I'd say it's a close call between the MSO and Bad Attitude for best rocker ... Bad Attitude is perhaps a more raw rock concert whereas the MSO is a much more polished performance.

20 Apr 2006, 11:38	#12
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	Given MSO is excluded from the debate, that's one very firm vote Bad Attitude then. Anyone objecting/having a different point of view?

20 Apr 2006, 11:40	#13
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	does anyone know where i could get the BAVHS from? I looked for it at amazon. but they don´t got it.

20 Apr 2006, 11:46	#14
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Your best bet these days is Ebay ...

20 Apr 2006, 11:55	#15
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	*Brief side note - If I want VHS from Ebay, is that like DVD and have to be designed for the local electronics, or whatever the hell it is that makes a difference?

20 Apr 2006, 11:58	#17
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	Huh?

20 Apr 2006, 12:03	#19
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	PAL and NTSC are indeed differing formats of VHS. The states runs on NTSC and the UK on PAL (not sure about down under at all). Having said that most modern VHS machines these days will play both formats.

20 Apr 2006, 12:04	#20
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	I did, I'd just like to understand it. PAL/NTSC is a menu option on my DVD player (which doesn't help with VHS) that makes no difference that I can see to my playback. What does that have to do with VHS? And what is SECAM? Actually, is it even necessary I know that?

20 Apr 2006, 14:14	#24
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Yeah you are right. But I still hate some of it

20 Apr 2006, 14:43	#25
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	So, that's 2.7 votes for BA, and 0 for anything else. Is SECAM like BETA? And should I order fries with that?