What is this world coming to?

airhead · 17 Mar 2004, 21:32

Er someone... I bought a meat cd a little while ago. I couldn't find him anywhere in the rock or the heavy metal bit. So I asked the assistant where his cd was. They said, In the pop section.

POP????????

What is he doing in the pop bit?!?

Rob The Badger · 17 Mar 2004, 21:40

Because he makes pop music?

airhead · 17 Mar 2004, 21:42

No!!!! Meat does not make pop!!!!! It's metal!!!

Gez · 17 Mar 2004, 21:44

Well, although POP....what about the term 'Rock and Roll'

airhead · 17 Mar 2004, 21:47

Hmm, rock and roll mixed with metal! NOT POP!!!!!!!!!!

Rob The Badger · 17 Mar 2004, 21:48

No way in Hell will I accept "Couldn't Have Said It Better" as a Metal record. Please, none of this elitism about "Ooooooooh! Not pop! Pop's baaaaaaaaad!"

airhead · 17 Mar 2004, 21:52

ok ok ok.... I hate pop apart from eighties stuff in very special ocassions...

But a lot meats old songs are rock and metal...

Gez · 17 Mar 2004, 21:54

...........with a bitta roll

Rob The Badger · 17 Mar 2004, 21:56

Everything up to Bat II was rock and roll. He never made a 'metal'. Metal is far darker and heavier than anything Meat ever did. With meat the emphasis is on melody not power-chords.

**The Flying Mouse** · 17 Mar 2004, 22:00

I believe this is a discussion that's happened a few times before, but hey, i've nothing better to do right now

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In a way Meat can be discribed as "pop" (although it's not my favorite discription of him).Pop is short for popular, and let's face it, Meat is pretty popular

As for the Heavy Metal/Metal/Rock/Rock&Roll, my theory is that Meat & Jim were around when Metal was born.They helped create Metal

, but then, the next guy who brings an album out plays that little bit faster and louder, then the next guy goes that little bit further.After 25 years of people going faster and louder every time, what was originaly clasified as Metal seems tame in comparison to what is now accepted as Metal.
This means that what WAS Metal is now reclassified as something else.Original Metal is not Metal

.In reality, what is now accepted as Metal is not Metal, and what was considered Metal, but is now not classified as Metal, is Metal
Get it?

But in the end, does it matter.It sounds good so I don't care what it's called as long as they keep it coming

airhead · 17 Mar 2004, 22:01

A lotta roll gerry! (I said rock cos i couldn't be arsed to type it)

You are right. I think he's trying to move with the times a little bit. I just said metal because sometimes in bits it is. (life is a lemon)

I hope i haven't caused an argument, i have a habit of putting my foot right in it.

Rob The Badger · 17 Mar 2004, 22:03

This is actually a well-trodden path.

KebLou · 17 Mar 2004, 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by airhead

Er someone... I bought a meat cd a little while ago. I couldn't find him anywhere in the rock or the heavy metal bit. So I asked the assistant where his cd was. They said, In the pop section.

POP????????

What is he doing in the pop bit?!?

Sorry to point this out to you but I think you will find he make Rock/pop as it is not true pop, as pop is a broad term which is used for nearly every type of music. I don't understand why he is in the pop section either normally they have a rock/pop section which is where i found all my Meat Loaf albums, I have to agree with Rob he is not Metal and nor is he heavy rock.

Skeleton · 18 Mar 2004, 14:25

I think that Meat´s music is rock. Or do you really think that Everything Louder Than Everything Else is a popsong?
In Finland there´s only a few Meat fans (who I know) so Meat is not "popular" in Finland.

Rob The Badger · 18 Mar 2004, 17:15

Yes. 'Everything Louder Than Everything Else' is a pop song. Everything on BAT II is pop music. Steinman writes pop music. Bloody good pop music.

Plus if anyone's confused about the use of the word pop in the wider sense, it is a term used to loosely classify most music made after 1950.

Emily · 18 Mar 2004, 21:23

MEAT LOAF IS ALL ROCK AND ROLL.

Heli · 18 Mar 2004, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emily

MEAT LOAF IS ALL ROCK AND ROLL.

Your Damn Right!!

Rob The Badger · 19 Mar 2004, 18:56

This is getting a little grating now. . .

RSG · 05 Apr 2004, 07:08

I feel Meat's musc, is Hard Rock, Heavy without the metal (with exception of Paul Crook's live guitar work! Bravo! :o ) , soft, melodic, tear jerking, pop (because of you - but where do u see guitar that good in pop!) hehe, rock n roll, rock, theatricly enertaining, fast, hyper, driven, energetic!

17 Mar 2004, 21:32	#1
airhead the enchanted spleen Join Date: 12.02.2004 Location: ok, you see that sweet little cottage? I live next door in the nuthouse. Posts: 1,909	What is this world coming to? Er someone... I bought a meat cd a little while ago. I couldn't find him anywhere in the rock or the heavy metal bit. So I asked the assistant where his cd was. They said, In the pop section. POP???????? What is he doing in the pop bit?!?

17 Mar 2004, 21:40	#2
Rob The Badger Too sexy for this post Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,895	Because he makes pop music?

17 Mar 2004, 21:42	#3
airhead the enchanted spleen Join Date: 12.02.2004 Location: ok, you see that sweet little cottage? I live next door in the nuthouse. Posts: 1,909	No!!!! Meat does not make pop!!!!! It's metal!!!

17 Mar 2004, 21:44	#4
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,636	Well, although POP....what about the term 'Rock and Roll'

17 Mar 2004, 21:47	#5
airhead the enchanted spleen Join Date: 12.02.2004 Location: ok, you see that sweet little cottage? I live next door in the nuthouse. Posts: 1,909	Hmm, rock and roll mixed with metal! NOT POP!!!!!!!!!!

17 Mar 2004, 21:48	#6
Rob The Badger Too sexy for this post Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,895	No way in Hell will I accept "Couldn't Have Said It Better" as a Metal record. Please, none of this elitism about "Ooooooooh! Not pop! Pop's baaaaaaaaad!"

17 Mar 2004, 21:52	#7
airhead the enchanted spleen Join Date: 12.02.2004 Location: ok, you see that sweet little cottage? I live next door in the nuthouse. Posts: 1,909	ok ok ok.... I hate pop apart from eighties stuff in very special ocassions... But a lot meats old songs are rock and metal...

17 Mar 2004, 21:54	#8
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,636	...........with a bitta roll

17 Mar 2004, 21:56	#9
Rob The Badger Too sexy for this post Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,895	Everything up to Bat II was rock and roll. He never made a 'metal'. Metal is far darker and heavier than anything Meat ever did. With meat the emphasis is on melody not power-chords.

17 Mar 2004, 22:00	#10
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I believe this is a discussion that's happened a few times before, but hey, i've nothing better to do right now . In a way Meat can be discribed as "pop" (although it's not my favorite discription of him).Pop is short for popular, and let's face it, Meat is pretty popular As for the Heavy Metal/Metal/Rock/Rock&Roll, my theory is that Meat & Jim were around when Metal was born.They helped create Metal , but then, the next guy who brings an album out plays that little bit faster and louder, then the next guy goes that little bit further.After 25 years of people going faster and louder every time, what was originaly clasified as Metal seems tame in comparison to what is now accepted as Metal. This means that what WAS Metal is now reclassified as something else.Original Metal is not Metal .In reality, what is now accepted as Metal is not Metal, and what was considered Metal, but is now not classified as Metal, is Metal Get it? But in the end, does it matter.It sounds good so I don't care what it's called as long as they keep it coming

17 Mar 2004, 22:01	#11
airhead the enchanted spleen Join Date: 12.02.2004 Location: ok, you see that sweet little cottage? I live next door in the nuthouse. Posts: 1,909	A lotta roll gerry! (I said rock cos i couldn't be arsed to type it) You are right. I think he's trying to move with the times a little bit. I just said metal because sometimes in bits it is. (life is a lemon) I hope i haven't caused an argument, i have a habit of putting my foot right in it.

17 Mar 2004, 22:03	#12
Rob The Badger Too sexy for this post Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,895	This is actually a well-trodden path.

18 Mar 2004, 14:25	#14
Skeleton Mega Loafer Join Date: 13.10.2003 Location: Grinning, Ducking & Running Posts: 3,668	I think that Meat´s music is rock. Or do you really think that Everything Louder Than Everything Else is a popsong? In Finland there´s only a few Meat fans (who I know) so Meat is not "popular" in Finland.

18 Mar 2004, 17:15	#15
Rob The Badger Too sexy for this post Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,895	Yes. 'Everything Louder Than Everything Else' is a pop song. Everything on BAT II is pop music. Steinman writes pop music. Bloody good pop music. Plus if anyone's confused about the use of the word pop in the wider sense, it is a term used to loosely classify most music made after 1950.

18 Mar 2004, 21:23	#16
Emily Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.12.2003 Location: N.I Posts: 1,085	MEAT LOAF IS ALL ROCK AND ROLL.

19 Mar 2004, 18:56	#18
Rob The Badger Too sexy for this post Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,895	This is getting a little grating now. . .

05 Apr 2004, 07:08	#19
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	I feel Meat's musc, is Hard Rock, Heavy without the metal (with exception of Paul Crook's live guitar work! Bravo! :o ) , soft, melodic, tear jerking, pop (because of you - but where do u see guitar that good in pop!) hehe, rock n roll, rock, theatricly enertaining, fast, hyper, driven, energetic!