Was the 'Wetten, Dass?' performance mimed?

[Wario]

I've been wondering this forever ago 9 months. I love The Wetten Dass performance, but it just seems mimed to me, I dunno. The effect on Meat's vocals, the way the track just cuts in at the start, the moment where he almost came in early [1:34 - 1:38], and the pitching vocals of All of Me. I dunno, it just always seemed mimed to me i dunno why.

Was it mimed? I dont think I ever heard an official answer, or if there was I totally missed it.

EIther way its a great performance. I loveeeee how he sang the AFL chorus, that pitch in his voice was PERFECTTT

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[DJLeen]

It was live I thought...

[Wario]

Originally Posted by DJLeen

It was live I thought...

Yeah it would seem like it, but the vocal effects that are remnant of the effects on the blue sky interlude on MMW make me think he sang it in a studio and mimed it to avoid another potential AFL fiasco in germany

[duke knooby]

im pretty sure meat answered this question before

[Evil Ernie]

It's possible that it was live pitch correction.

[melon]

Originally Posted by Evil Ernie

It's possible that it was live pitch correction.

I didn't even know that could be done

[Dave]

Talk about beating a dead horse ... Jeeze ...

[Mr. Happy]

Originally Posted by Wario

...the effect on Meat's vocals...Was it mimed? I dont think I ever heard an official answer, or if there was I totally missed it.

What effect? There's a shit tonne of reverb, but that doesn't mean it's mimed. The only indication at all I could see that it might be mimed is that the studio bike from Anything From Love is overdubbed at the start of the song, while Paul adjusts his tuning at the same time (that's what it looks like, at least). But that could very easily have been overdubbed for exactly that reason, so he has time to adjust the tuning? I might be imagining it too, because you put the idea in my head, but it looks like he hits the opening chord of Anything for Love a split second before it actually starts. I don't know. Don't really care, to be honest, it was a great performance either way

Other than that, I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be live, and that's hardly any reasoning at all. You're right on the vocals on Anything for Love, though. He nailed it

[Sue K]

It was live ...

[PanicLord]

Originally Posted by Sue K

It was live ...

I agree - the vocals are different to the album version. Great performance throughout.

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Dave

Talk about beating a dead horse ... Jeeze ...

Originally Posted by Sue K

It was live ...

I absolutely agree

[CarylB]

I'm sure Meat said it was a live performance .. and that's good enough for me without analysing it to death by nanosecond. It was a GREAT performance which to me is what matters. And I've sat close enough to performances in the TV studio to hear that even on the odd occasion when Meat has been forced to use a recorded track, he doesn't "mime", but SINGS live anyway. Let's not disinter any more dead equines!

Caryl

[Adje]

It was pre-recorded. Not live, not the album version.

[razorball2002]

Wario: I am absolutely 100% sure it was mimed, and I think it is a shame it is posted as a "live" performance on the official ML site. All of Wetten Dass live performances are mimed, I have been watching the show for about 20 years now and havent seen one "live" performance on that show (also the 2 other times he played there were mimed, at one point on Not a dry house the CD skiped while he was miming!!). Just compare the "true real live" performances of ML from the past 2 years and compare them to what you are hearing on Wetten dass. I wouldn't be surprised they took some vocals from the next overdubbed live in Sydney DVD! Speaking of "fake" MLs live, the bonus live CD of HCTB is totally overdubbed vocal wise, I have heard bootlegs from that tour (Casa de Carne) and he was still recovering from the bat 3 tour. Even the Pavarotti and Friends performance was re-done in the studio (at least some parts of it), I saw the actual "real" performance airing live on TV, and he messed up a few notes on Back to Sorrento (but kept claiming in interviews that he sang better than Pavarotti... that was in my opinion lame, knowing that he had to re-do some parts in the studio!!). He is not the only artist who re-records or overdubbs his vocals on live cds dvds or tv performances, many do and I'm not criticizing him for that. If you want the truth, you got it. Wetten Dass is 100% mimed. But well mimed

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Dave

Talk about beating a dead horse ... Jeeze ...

Yes ..

[Wario]

Originally Posted by razorball2002

Wario: I am absolutely 100% sure it was mimed, and I think it is a shame it is posted as a "live" performance on the official ML site. All of Wetten Dass live performances are mimed, I have been watching the show for about 20 years now and havent seen one "live" performance on that show (also the 2 other times he played there were mimed, at one point on Not a dry house the CD skiped while he was miming!!). Just compare the "true real live" performances of ML from the past 2 years and compare them to what you are hearing on Wetten dass. I wouldn't be surprised they took some vocals from the next overdubbed live in Sydney DVD! Speaking of "fake" MLs live, the bonus live CD of HCTB is totally overdubbed vocal wise, I have heard bootlegs from that tour (Casa de Carne) and he was still recovering from the bat 3 tour. Even the Pavarotti and Friends performance was re-done in the studio (at least some parts of it), I saw the actual "real" performance airing live on TV, and he messed up a few notes on Back to Sorrento (but kept claiming in interviews that he sang better than Pavarotti... that was in my opinion lame, knowing that he had to re-do some parts in the studio!!). He is not the only artist who re-records or overdubbs his vocals on live cds dvds or tv performances, many do and I'm not criticizing him for that. If you want the truth, you got it. Wetten Dass is 100% mimed. But well mimed

Yeah that was my thinking. DOnt get me wrong I LOVE the produced live vocals ALOT. LOVE them. anyway to make meat sound even better is fine by me. I have heard some of those case boots. so glad they decided apon overdubbing them, they sound fantastic.

just cause im asking this doesnt mean its a negative. if thats meat actually singing live .... woah.

[JennaG]

If Meat says he performed it live then I believe him.

Personally, it didn't matter to me on whether it was pre-recorded or not. I enjoyed the performance and it sounded great. That's enough for me.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by JennaG

If Meat says he performed it live then I believe him.

Personally, it didn't matter to me on whether it was pre-recorded or not. I enjoyed the performance and it sounded great. That's enough for me.

Where di he say this? Did i miss a post? someone please link a quote

[JennaG]

Originally Posted by Wario

Where di he say this? Did i miss a post? someone please link a quote

I might be mistaken but I thought something was said when this subject was first brought up a few months ago.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by JennaG

I might be mistaken but I thought something was said when this subject was first brought up a few months ago.

thats my point. I went through that thread. Nothing from meat about it being mimed or not

i wanna know where meat said it wasnt mimed, or we have a non horse beaten discussion still unresovled

[JennaG]

Originally Posted by Wario

thats my point. I went through that thread. Nothing from meat about it being mimed or not

i wanna know where meat said it wasnt mimed, or we have a non horse beaten discussion still unresovled

Well I DID say when you questioned me that I might be mistaken. If you've got the time to read through the whole thread and you couldn't find it then fair enough, I clearly WAS mistaken.

[SnowRabbitmck]

I believe it is a live performance.

[duke knooby]

Originally Posted by JennaG

I might be mistaken but I thought something was said when this subject was first brought up a few months ago.

he answered it in another thread... if i remember rightly, vocals were live, medely music was pre done... performance was done well

[Wario]

Originally Posted by JennaG

Well I DID say when you questioned me that I might be mistaken. If you've got the time to read through the whole thread and you couldn't find it then fair enough, I clearly WAS mistaken.

I wasnt directing that at you

[MarkS]

Originally Posted by FireBall

I said I wasn't coming back here , But listen to the snare I am right with it.
I was not out of time between 1:48 and 2:10 If I was behind it was at
1:44 and was in right with snare at 1:48 . It was the 1st time I had every sung that song live. I did it once at 1 pm and the show 4:40. I sing Like I feel . The Choir hit "the high Liv'in Like I did before on 1 and so did i "My living was a little buried, then the freeze. The second verse I sang the 1st 3 lines then waited the 2 count for the next 3. It was a choice . 2nd verse I can sing every line together as long as there is a 2beat wait between one of them. I do not stay one beat behind . I am right with the snare. I did a really good TV performance and you are going to nick pick because because I may have been off 2 snare beats. Robb you are big fan and I love you but this why I don't come here Maybe I was 4 beats behind at one point "SO WHAT"
Over all, and people can't watch because Patti's not there . She had shows in Europe. Ricky Minors band is great ! The singers were great. Why can't you just enjoy and not count 4 beats . I was very happy with that show. I am still very weak after spending 4 days in a London Hospital , with severe food poisoning,
I more minute ,the audience on Loose women would had have something to really talk about. I can not deal with this kind off nit picking. Overall I thought it was great mix not as good as Germany. That was a stereo backing Track, easier to mix that a live band. I want be back , Thought I would give it one more shot ... but got bullets in my ass , I'm trying to get my confidence back up ... not have it torn down .. So go ahead and tear me down .. Now ,just stop calling it the Meat Loaf UK fan club, because it is not.
This time I will not be back for sure .

I believe this is the post that most people are referring too, as Weeten Daas was mentioned towards the end.


Does it really matter if it was mimed or not? I could care less, it was a good performance, at a time when one was needed, and it probably helped sell a few records along the way. I for one enjoyed the performance and have it on my phone so that I can listen to it regularly.

On a side note, I find it interesting that certain people are apparently employed by the Weeten Daas program and were also there mixing the board that night. Because that is the only way that said person could know with "100%" certainty that this, and every other Weeten Daas performance ever done was mimed. I just love when people present opinion as complete fact. Sure, some people probably do mime on the show, but I'm guessing many sing live. I for one believe Meat sang live that night, and I am perfectly content to believe that.

I have been to 4 different shows on this current tour, and I know first hand that he is perfectly capable of delivering a performance on par, if not better than that on Weeten Daas, despite what you and your many bootlegs may think.