You've Got To Love Me With The Sun In Your Eyes Until The Day You Go Blind

Wario · 01 Sep 2010, 03:22

Ive never heard this song, where is this baby at?

AndrewG · 01 Sep 2010, 03:31

Sounds like it could be a Steinman title but I'm guessing it's not one?

evil nickname · 01 Sep 2010, 20:09

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Raised on Long Island, Steinman first launched his brand of aural assault on the public while he was a student at Amherst college, where he wrote and directed a rock musical titled 'Dream Engine' as an independent-study project. The show baffled his professors but attracted the attention of Joseph Papp at the New York Public Theater.

According to Steinman, Papp was interested in touring the show around to various venues. Paul Rothchild, producer of the Doors, was eager to oversee the cast album. Toward that end, an audition with Warner/Reprise Records was set up for Steinman in Los Angeles.

"Rothchild was all excited," Steinman remembers. "He said, 'I gonna take this to Warner Bros., and it's carte blanche.' So we got this audition for Lenny Waronker. It turns out that they've got the entire staff of Warner/Reprise in a big airline hangar they have out there in Burbank, one of those places where Frank Sinatra used to record. I don't think they realized it was only gonna be me and two other people from the school and a piano, just like a theatrical audition."

"This is, like, '72, when Warner/Reprise was really the folk-rock label: James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, that was their image. And my opening number was a song called 'How Do You Bury The Skull Of Your Country?' The second song was called 'You've Got To Love Me With The Sun In Your Eyes Until The Day That You Go Blind.' It went on from there. You could just see the horror on their faces. Finally, one guy got up and said, 'I have to say this bluntly. We don't need people like you in the world.'

"So they turned down the album, and Rothchild calls me up and says, 'You really let me down, Steinman. You rushed the tempos.'"

I don't know if it ever even got recorded, but the safe bet would be 'no'.

Evil One · 01 Sep 2010, 20:13

So either it was good, and got recycled into something we all know, or it was crap and has been forgotten.

duke knooby · 02 Sep 2010, 21:27

"how do you bury the skull of your country"

isn't that the opening line that ted neeley used to sing during the 81/82 tour

*AndyK* · 02 Sep 2010, 21:32

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

"how do you bury the skull of your country"

isn't that the opening line that ted neeley used to sing during the 81/82 tour

It's the opening song yeah.

Evil One · 02 Sep 2010, 21:34

Wasn't it turned into Who Needs The Young? or am I going

?

duke knooby · 02 Sep 2010, 21:35

nah, who needs the young is completely different going by the '76 bootleg rehersals

*AndyK* · 02 Sep 2010, 21:38

I don't think it was. Who Needs The Young was purely a spoken part of the show wasn't it?

duke knooby · 02 Sep 2010, 21:39

and handily the '88 video of warios had it as a spoken piece as mr k rightly says

*AndyK* · 02 Sep 2010, 21:41

It was certainly spoken at all the shows I saw in '88

Evil One · 02 Sep 2010, 21:48

I'm pretty sure Who Needs The Young was a song as well.

duke knooby · 02 Sep 2010, 21:51

it had a piano (and drums maybe) acompaniment on the '76 recordings

cant really remember... ask lenny waronker... he got to hear it lol

RSG · 26 Dec 2012, 09:25

Epic bump... Found this thread Wario started whilst searching the web. hahaha

http://jimsteinman.wikia.com/wiki/Yo...n_in_Your_Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3D1n_BG7g

But hey who knows, maybe we'll hear this down the road... Incredible song methinks.

Mr. Happy · 26 Dec 2012, 14:18

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Originally Posted by RSG

Epic bump... Found this thread Wario started whilst searching the web. hahaha

http://jimsteinman.wikia.com/wiki/Yo...n_in_Your_Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3D1n_BG7g

But hey who knows, maybe we'll hear this down the road... Incredible song methinks.

This sounds like it could be great if it was beyond the demo stage but I find it difficult to take anything away from a recording of this quality, good or bad (although I'm leaning more towards good). I can't even hear the melody in the verse

Not that we'll ever hear it, but apparently Jim re-recorded it not too long ago. That would be interesting to hear.

Slightly off topic, but Jim's other forgotten song "Souvenirs" is in the related videos. I love that one. Has some brilliant saxophone in there

Paul Richardson · 27 Dec 2012, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

Slightly off topic, but Jim's other forgotten song "Souvenirs" is in the related videos. I love that one. Has some brilliant saxophone in there

... and also 'Give Me The Simple Life' with an early Meat vocal. Very different Steinman song to those we're used to ...

RSG · 28 Dec 2012, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

This sounds like it could be great if it was beyond the demo stage but I find it difficult to take anything away from a recording of this quality, good or bad (although I'm leaning more towards good). I can't even hear the melody in the verse

Not that we'll ever hear it, but apparently Jim re-recorded it not too long ago. That would be interesting to hear.

Slightly off topic, but Jim's other forgotten song Souviners is in the related videos. I love that one. Has some brilliant saxophone in there

Reccomend both Souvenirs and YGTLMWTSIYEUTDYGB w/ headphones

After a few weeks this little diddy just grown on me.
And methinks every party should have Souviners before the end of the night

duke knooby · 28 Dec 2012, 23:35

did i read somewhere a while back, that the stage production of more than you deserve was originally to be called souvenirs??

RSG · 02 Jan 2013, 22:02

I believe I read the same thing. From my understanding Souvenirs became More Than You Deserve and was a different project than when it was written. I believe a new character and a couple more songs were added to include MEAT LOAF.

(Sun in your Eyes) was from The Dream Engine? (Not the Rob Evans Quartet

)

01 Sep 2010, 03:22	#1
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	You've Got To Love Me With The Sun In Your Eyes Until The Day You Go Blind Ive never heard this song, where is this baby at?

01 Sep 2010, 03:31	#2
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	Sounds like it could be a Steinman title but I'm guessing it's not one?

01 Sep 2010, 20:13	#4
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	So either it was good, and got recycled into something we all know, or it was crap and has been forgotten.

02 Sep 2010, 21:27	#5
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,893	"how do you bury the skull of your country" isn't that the opening line that ted neeley used to sing during the 81/82 tour

02 Sep 2010, 21:34	#7
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Wasn't it turned into Who Needs The Young? or am I going ?

02 Sep 2010, 21:35	#8
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,893	nah, who needs the young is completely different going by the '76 bootleg rehersals

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AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	I don't think it was. Who Needs The Young was purely a spoken part of the show wasn't it?

02 Sep 2010, 21:39	#10
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,893	and handily the '88 video of warios had it as a spoken piece as mr k rightly says

02 Sep 2010, 21:41	#11
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	It was certainly spoken at all the shows I saw in '88

02 Sep 2010, 21:48	#12
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	I'm pretty sure Who Needs The Young was a song as well.

02 Sep 2010, 21:51	#13
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,893	it had a piano (and drums maybe) acompaniment on the '76 recordings cant really remember... ask lenny waronker... he got to hear it lol

26 Dec 2012, 09:25	#14
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	Epic bump... Found this thread Wario started whilst searching the web. hahaha http://jimsteinman.wikia.com/wiki/Yo...n_in_Your_Eyes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3D1n_BG7g But hey who knows, maybe we'll hear this down the road... Incredible song methinks.

28 Dec 2012, 23:35	#18
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,893	did i read somewhere a while back, that the stage production of more than you deserve was originally to be called souvenirs??

02 Jan 2013, 22:02	#19
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	I believe I read the same thing. From my understanding Souvenirs became More Than You Deserve and was a different project than when it was written. I believe a new character and a couple more songs were added to include MEAT LOAF. (Sun in your Eyes) was from The Dream Engine? (Not the Rob Evans Quartet )