Perferred Meat?

Wario · 10 Jun 2009, 04:36

Medium rare, rare, or well-done?

i prefer Meat in the 1985 - 1988 form

**RadioMaster** · 10 Jun 2009, 08:33

Id say 93 to 95, but that doesnt appear in your list lol

howlerformeatloaf · 10 Jun 2009, 12:53

I'd have to say the 95 to 98 area. Love the long hair at that stage.

MeatGrl1 · 10 Jun 2009, 13:21

OK this has to be the most horrendous poll on the forum !!

Elijah's way · 10 Jun 2009, 13:42

From 1967 to Present.

Sarge · 10 Jun 2009, 13:53

1985 - 1996 and I hope I can add 2009 - ? one day.

**RadioMaster** · 10 Jun 2009, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

OK this has to be the most horrendous poll on the forum !!

why's that?

AndrewG · 10 Jun 2009, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

why's that?

Cuz it leaves out Meat Loaf's Johnny Depp period??

mszee · 10 Jun 2009, 17:12

What is perferred???

AndrewG · 10 Jun 2009, 17:14

Don't know, maybe someone who pronounces the R a bit too often? Perhaps R. can shed some light on this...

Betty · 10 Jun 2009, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

OK this has to be the most horrendous poll on the forum !!

Is it?
It´s only another poll actually

You don´t have to post or vote here as well as we don´t have to reply to your most recent Happy Birthday thread. It´s as easy as that!

Back on topic, I can´t really name a time when I preferred him the most (do we talk about concerts, his voice on the records or generally? lol), his voice was amazing and powerful years ago but also during the tours from the last 2 years there were some brilliant performances...
I´d say, ups and downs all the way thru

AndrewG · 10 Jun 2009, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betty

I´d say, ups and downs all the way thru

Definitely agree with that. I heard him sing pretty well last year in Nottingham especially. I couldn't pick an exact time but I don't think it is wrong asking people for their opinions either.

WhenItComes2LovingU · 10 Jun 2009, 20:37

Be warned: frank opinion ahead. I don't claim to take any sides in a debate about Meat Loaf's voice, this is merely my reporting of what I hear and my own personal opinion. If you don't like honesty about my personal opinion, then please skip my post and have a cookie content in having your own opinion unchallenged by my post.

I'd have to say that I actually like pretty much all the different aspects of Meat's voice through the years until it reaches about 2006/07 or so. That's right around where he started having serious trouble the likes of which we'd not heard since '78 or so, which I assume was due to the cyst.

Since the cyst popped, he just hasn't sounded right to me. At times he talks his way through a song, and I'm no judge because some of those notes are hard to hit, especially for someone his age, but when he does try to sing, it doesn't sound right, and reviewers have been pointing this out for a while during and since cyst time. It sounds unhealthy, and at times he starts to lose his sense of melody and go into this weird one-note sort of warbling that reminds me of Lou Reed or Bob Dylan mumbling their way through a song in such a way that the melody becomes unrecognizable. This is not to say that he's not still great given a little time off, but I think a little time off isn't enough if we want to have Meat in serviceable voice and ready to roll. Perhaps a qualified doctor should check to see if there is any residual effect left from this cyst, if only to explain this phenomena. I'm not a fan of Meat Loaf getting 0, 1, or 2-star reviews any more than you guys are, and if this would help, I'm in favor of it.

And if he's not willing to get it checked, I hope I'm not out of line in saying that he really should stick to the studio at this point, like it or not. Live, maybe it's different for you, but for me, showmanship doesn't always make up for the fact that you're supposed to be singing, and to me it's questionable as to whether or not he's actually been singing lately. He's one of my favorite performers, but I don't want to have to be in the position of one day going to a concert where I'm made to feel I should leave if I actually expect him to sing.

Sarge · 10 Jun 2009, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhenItComes2LovingU

Since the cyst popped, he just hasn't sounded right to me.

You mean he would have been better off with the cyst?

I'm neither his doc nor an expert on vocal chord cysts, that's why I can't say anything about what actually caused his voice problems. In 2007, I noticed that he appeared pretty weary in general. He was often much too slow, totally lost track of the melody during some songs and did not seem to enjoy what he was doing. When I heard him in 2008, he obviously was in the mood to go on stage, sounded much better and even managed to impressively perform difficult songs he had botched a few months back. Don't know what's really causing the frequent ups and downs, I hope he'll sound fine on the next record and will do some good shows again.

WhenItComes2LovingU · 11 Jun 2009, 01:55

Okay, I admit I worded that badly. Let's try "Since the cyst came along and left a trail of destruction in its wake, he hasn't sounded the same."

RSG · 11 Jun 2009, 02:16

I can't vote, Meat's voice has always been different many times through out his long term career.

MeatGrl1 · 11 Jun 2009, 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG

I can't vote, Meat's voice has always been different many times through out his long term career.

Agreed

.

Sarge · 11 Jun 2009, 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhenItComes2LovingU

Since the cyst came along and left a trail of destruction in its wake

Do we know for sure whether it really did?

There are many "old" singers whose voices have changed over the years (I just listened to Joni Mitchell, for example). He already sounded different on CHSIB. The guy has been on stage for about four decades. What he's done over the years is pretty hard work, it doesn't come as a surprise that his voice has suffered.

There is something I noticed at some recent Meat Loaf concerts. Whenever his voice was about to fail, he started screaming instead of singing which apparently seemed to cost a lot of strength. Furthermore, he tends to heavily hunch when singing which I think is not good. I wonder how someone can sing in such an exhausting posture at all. I suspect you can't sing well when you're tense, no matter whether a cyst is ailing you or not.

Evil One · 11 Jun 2009, 04:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge

There is something I noticed at some recent Meat Loaf concerts. Whenever his voice was about to fail, he started screaming instead of singing which apparently seemed to cost a lot of strength.

That's nothing new. He used to do that on the original Bat tour in 1978. That's how he ruined his voice the first time!

View Poll Results: Meat? Meat? or Meat?
1969 - 1975 Meat Loaf (Freaking Amazing voice)	1	7.14%
1977 Meat Loaf (Amazing voice)	1	7.14%
1978 Meat Loaf (Gruff Voice)	0	0%
1981 - 1983 (Weak Voice)	0	0%
1985 - 1988 Meat Loaf (Very strong voice)	8	57.14%
1991 to 1993 Meat Loaf (Very Strong voice)	3	21.43%
1995 - 1996 Meat Loaf (Fine voice)	1	7.14%
1999 - 2002 Meat Loaf (strong voice)	0	0%
2004 - 2005 Meat Loaf (Fine voice)	0	0%
2006 - present Meat Loaf (Current voice)	0	0%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

10 Jun 2009, 04:36	#1
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Perferred Meat? Medium rare, rare, or well-done? i prefer Meat in the 1985 - 1988 form

10 Jun 2009, 08:33	#2
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Id say 93 to 95, but that doesnt appear in your list lol

10 Jun 2009, 12:53	#3
howlerformeatloaf loaf howler Join Date: 15.08.2007 Location: Hershey, Pa Posts: 360	I'd have to say the 95 to 98 area. Love the long hair at that stage.

10 Jun 2009, 13:21	#4
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	OK this has to be the most horrendous poll on the forum !!

10 Jun 2009, 13:42	#5
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	From 1967 to Present.

10 Jun 2009, 13:53	#6
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	1985 - 1996 and I hope I can add 2009 - ? one day.

10 Jun 2009, 17:12	#9
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	What is perferred???

10 Jun 2009, 17:14	#10
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Don't know, maybe someone who pronounces the R a bit too often? Perhaps R. can shed some light on this...

10 Jun 2009, 20:37	#13
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Be warned: frank opinion ahead. I don't claim to take any sides in a debate about Meat Loaf's voice, this is merely my reporting of what I hear and my own personal opinion. If you don't like honesty about my personal opinion, then please skip my post and have a cookie content in having your own opinion unchallenged by my post. I'd have to say that I actually like pretty much all the different aspects of Meat's voice through the years until it reaches about 2006/07 or so. That's right around where he started having serious trouble the likes of which we'd not heard since '78 or so, which I assume was due to the cyst. Since the cyst popped, he just hasn't sounded right to me. At times he talks his way through a song, and I'm no judge because some of those notes are hard to hit, especially for someone his age, but when he does try to sing, it doesn't sound right, and reviewers have been pointing this out for a while during and since cyst time. It sounds unhealthy, and at times he starts to lose his sense of melody and go into this weird one-note sort of warbling that reminds me of Lou Reed or Bob Dylan mumbling their way through a song in such a way that the melody becomes unrecognizable. This is not to say that he's not still great given a little time off, but I think a little time off isn't enough if we want to have Meat in serviceable voice and ready to roll. Perhaps a qualified doctor should check to see if there is any residual effect left from this cyst, if only to explain this phenomena. I'm not a fan of Meat Loaf getting 0, 1, or 2-star reviews any more than you guys are, and if this would help, I'm in favor of it. And if he's not willing to get it checked, I hope I'm not out of line in saying that he really should stick to the studio at this point, like it or not. Live, maybe it's different for you, but for me, showmanship doesn't always make up for the fact that you're supposed to be singing, and to me it's questionable as to whether or not he's actually been singing lately. He's one of my favorite performers, but I don't want to have to be in the position of one day going to a concert where I'm made to feel I should leave if I actually expect him to sing.

11 Jun 2009, 01:55	#15
WhenItComes2LovingU Banned Join Date: 16.01.2006 Posts: 303	Okay, I admit I worded that badly. Let's try "Since the cyst came along and left a trail of destruction in its wake, he hasn't sounded the same."

11 Jun 2009, 02:16	#16
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	I can't vote, Meat's voice has always been different many times through out his long term career.