Live or not live?

Evil One · 04 Sep 2007, 22:41

Here's a question for everyone:

Which of Meat's songs do you think are most improved when sung live as compared to the studio versions?
Conversely, which songs are never as good live as on the albums?

Just to make it interesting you're not allowed to pick anything from Bat 1.

Mine
Better live: Life Is A Lemon, Frying Pan, Modern Girl, Midnight, Amnesty Is Granted, Dead Ringer

Not better live: Rock And Roll Dreams, Anything For Love, Did I Say That?, Jumpin' The Gun, Bad Attitude

LostSoul · 04 Sep 2007, 23:03

Midnight, definitely sounds better live. I'd say more than better. I miss the 'funky' version...

LucyK! · 05 Sep 2007, 12:45

Midnight is much better live, the percussion really brings it to life

Life Is A Lemon live I absolutely love...when I was younger I was never overly keen on the album track but the live versions over recent tours have just got better and better, the MSO version is spot on I think.

Rock and Roll Dreams live is a really hard one for me...the album version is so so special to me, but I was completely blown away every time I saw the live version in May. It still had the characteristics of the album version - the heavy bass at the beginning etc - but the extras made it even better...the ending really is one of the most wonderful things I've seen in a live Meat show (I'm honestly welling up thinking of it!

), Dave's sax is increadible....I could go on forever!

Couldn't Have Said It Better live with MSO is better than the album version in my opinion, as is Testify from the same show

**allrevvedup** · 05 Sep 2007, 13:02

This isn't to a specific time right? Cause I think Life is a lemon in 1994-96 was the best it's sounded...but anyway

Sounds much better Live: Life is a lemon, Out of the frying pan, Rock n Roll Dreams, All Revved up, Took the words (again around 1994-96), Paradise, Midnight at the lost and found

Not as good live: For crying out loud, Land of the pig (i love the song but live it's not a tap on the original) Blind as a bat, Everything Louder, Dead Ringer for love,

LucyK! · 05 Sep 2007, 13:06

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Originally Posted by allrevvedup

Not as good live: Land of the pig (i love the song but live it's not a tap on the original)

There are those that would argue that there isn't a difference between the two

You're right about Blind As A Bat...they really managed to capture the emotion of the song live and it was often quite moving to watch, but if we're talking purely about sound quality then the album version is the one

*AndyK* · 05 Sep 2007, 13:20

Did I Say That had a fantastic live arrangement, which brought the already superb album version to life.

Nowhere Fast was another song that really took on a whole new life when it was performed live all those years ago.

LucyK! · 05 Sep 2007, 14:06

Not sure if it's "better" than the album version as such but I've always loved Heaven Can Wait live, especially how it is on MSO with the strings (which they've been doing ages, since around Bat II? )

The album version is wonderful and is how it was always intended to sound and so I love it, but the orchestra gets my vote every time

**RadioMaster** · 05 Sep 2007, 17:47

off the top of my head:

better: break it
worse: blind as a bat

there are more, but these two are the most obvious I think

duke knooby · 05 Sep 2007, 19:00

i think baab is musically much better live

Evil One · 05 Sep 2007, 19:59

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Originally Posted by AndyK

Nowhere Fast was another song that really took on a whole new life when it was performed live all those years ago.

Very true, but then it was already awesome to start with!

AndrewG · 05 Sep 2007, 23:45

You can't beat Bat out of Hell imo. Best song, best artist, best composer, best arrangement, best live version, best emotion, best guitar solos etc etc. It has it all. Everything else musically will always remain in its shadow I believe.

But fair enough not picking Bat 1 songs eh?
Best: Pretty much all of Bat 2 and CHSIB. My personal highlights DIST, CHSIB and AFL. Hearing Objects at RAH was a pretty much once in a lifetime experience I guess too. Also Bad for Good was pretty excellent at RAH imo.
Worst: IACBTMN, DRFL (miss the horns and the thousand guitars at the end).

mattloaf · 06 Sep 2007, 12:00

hmmm have to say out of the frying pan is better live. love the flames that shoot up when meat and band says "fire"

i must state that all meats songs sound great live. i know some of u say about his voice mite not be like it was in the 90s but have to understand hes put his voice through a hell of a lot over the years and its taken its toll. meat u rock.

matty

24K · 06 Sep 2007, 12:48

Better -Break It.
Not as good- Deadringer.

Deb · 06 Sep 2007, 16:55

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Originally Posted by 24K

Not as good- Deadringer.

Ah but it would definitely be better with CC singing it

I'd really love to see CC do Dead Ringer this leg of the tour

Better - CHSIB ( The drum solo)

LucyK! · 06 Sep 2007, 16:58

I'd like to see CC doing Dead Ringer or even Paradise, purely out of interest I guess, she's been with the band for years now and I don't think she's really been given a chance to shine yet

**allrevvedup** · 06 Sep 2007, 20:11

How about a duet of 'don't you look at me like that' between Meat and CC...yeah right!

**Monstro** · 10 Sep 2007, 11:49

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Originally Posted by allrevvedup

How about a duet of 'don't you look at me like that' between Meat and CC...yeah right!

Gets my vote, one of my fav songs!!!!

The Evolution · 10 Sep 2007, 14:44

Personally I believe that Anything For Love is the best sung live. At every concert I have been to the most eagerly awaited moment is the duet at the end. For me the crowds come alive when Meat sings the last notes before the duet begins. Whether it be Patti or Aspen, I truly adore the duet, it gives me goosebumps and is the most amazing feeling and emotion. I adore this song live.

mikeloaf · 11 Sep 2007, 01:43

Pigs is better live.

**Monstro** · 11 Sep 2007, 01:48

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Originally Posted by mikeloaf

Pigs is better live.

even better bbq'd with apple sauce

Lord Kagan · 12 Sep 2007, 22:36

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Originally Posted by Monstro

even better bbq'd with apple sauce

you couldnt resist that could you?

24K · 12 Sep 2007, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Deb

Ah but it would definitely be better with CC singing it

I'd really love to see CC do Dead Ringer this leg of the tour

Better - CHSIB ( The drum solo)

Well yea absolutely,i would love to see that.No doubt hubby would too

I also like allrevvedup's idea of CC singing Don't You Look At Me Like That with Meat
I adore this song,i often have it on repeat,CC would be awesome!!!

04 Sep 2007, 22:41	#1
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Live or not live? Here's a question for everyone: Which of Meat's songs do you think are most improved when sung live as compared to the studio versions? Conversely, which songs are never as good live as on the albums? Just to make it interesting you're not allowed to pick anything from Bat 1. Mine Better live: Life Is A Lemon, Frying Pan, Modern Girl, Midnight, Amnesty Is Granted, Dead Ringer Not better live: Rock And Roll Dreams, Anything For Love, Did I Say That?, Jumpin' The Gun, Bad Attitude

05 Sep 2007, 19:00	#9
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,899	i think baab is musically much better live Last edited by duke knooby; 05 Sep 2007 at 19:16. Reason: always wanted to know how much room there was in the reason for editing box, but now i see theres plenty so i shall stop.

04 Sep 2007, 23:03	#2
LostSoul Got metal? Join Date: 06.11.2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 2,109	Midnight, definitely sounds better live. I'd say more than better. I miss the 'funky' version...

05 Sep 2007, 12:45	#3
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Midnight is much better live, the percussion really brings it to life Life Is A Lemon live I absolutely love...when I was younger I was never overly keen on the album track but the live versions over recent tours have just got better and better, the MSO version is spot on I think. Rock and Roll Dreams live is a really hard one for me...the album version is so so special to me, but I was completely blown away every time I saw the live version in May. It still had the characteristics of the album version - the heavy bass at the beginning etc - but the extras made it even better...the ending really is one of the most wonderful things I've seen in a live Meat show (I'm honestly welling up thinking of it! ), Dave's sax is increadible....I could go on forever! Couldn't Have Said It Better live with MSO is better than the album version in my opinion, as is Testify from the same show

05 Sep 2007, 13:02	#4
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,358	This isn't to a specific time right? Cause I think Life is a lemon in 1994-96 was the best it's sounded...but anyway Sounds much better Live: Life is a lemon, Out of the frying pan, Rock n Roll Dreams, All Revved up, Took the words (again around 1994-96), Paradise, Midnight at the lost and found Not as good live: For crying out loud, Land of the pig (i love the song but live it's not a tap on the original) Blind as a bat, Everything Louder, Dead Ringer for love,

05 Sep 2007, 13:20	#6
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Did I Say That had a fantastic live arrangement, which brought the already superb album version to life. Nowhere Fast was another song that really took on a whole new life when it was performed live all those years ago.

05 Sep 2007, 14:06	#7
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Not sure if it's "better" than the album version as such but I've always loved Heaven Can Wait live, especially how it is on MSO with the strings (which they've been doing ages, since around Bat II? ) The album version is wonderful and is how it was always intended to sound and so I love it, but the orchestra gets my vote every time

05 Sep 2007, 17:47	#8
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	off the top of my head: better: break it worse: blind as a bat there are more, but these two are the most obvious I think

05 Sep 2007, 23:45	#11
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	You can't beat Bat out of Hell imo. Best song, best artist, best composer, best arrangement, best live version, best emotion, best guitar solos etc etc. It has it all. Everything else musically will always remain in its shadow I believe. But fair enough not picking Bat 1 songs eh? Best: Pretty much all of Bat 2 and CHSIB. My personal highlights DIST, CHSIB and AFL. Hearing Objects at RAH was a pretty much once in a lifetime experience I guess too. Also Bad for Good was pretty excellent at RAH imo. Worst: IACBTMN, DRFL (miss the horns and the thousand guitars at the end).

06 Sep 2007, 12:00	#12
mattloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 16.11.2003 Posts: 243	hmmm have to say out of the frying pan is better live. love the flames that shoot up when meat and band says "fire" i must state that all meats songs sound great live. i know some of u say about his voice mite not be like it was in the 90s but have to understand hes put his voice through a hell of a lot over the years and its taken its toll. meat u rock. matty

06 Sep 2007, 12:48	#13
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	Better -Break It. Not as good- Deadringer.

06 Sep 2007, 16:58	#15
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I'd like to see CC doing Dead Ringer or even Paradise, purely out of interest I guess, she's been with the band for years now and I don't think she's really been given a chance to shine yet

06 Sep 2007, 20:11	#16
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,358	How about a duet of 'don't you look at me like that' between Meat and CC...yeah right!

10 Sep 2007, 14:44	#18
The Evolution Rookie Join Date: 19.09.2006 Location: Bishopton, Scotland Posts: 19	Personally I believe that Anything For Love is the best sung live. At every concert I have been to the most eagerly awaited moment is the duet at the end. For me the crowds come alive when Meat sings the last notes before the duet begins. Whether it be Patti or Aspen, I truly adore the duet, it gives me goosebumps and is the most amazing feeling and emotion. I adore this song live.

11 Sep 2007, 01:43	#19
mikeloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2005 Location: England UK Posts: 708	Pigs is better live.