Mercury seek fans' input for Meat's next release!! - Page 3

ChrisBelfast · 08 Jun 2003, 15:35

My dream release for testify would be:

CD1: Enhanced

Testify Album Version
Testify Radio Version
Testify Dance Mix (Lets get meatinto clubs!!)
Testify Video

CD2:

Testify Album Version
Did I Say That Live Cologne
Couldn’t Have Said It Better Live Cologne
Anything For Love Night of The Proms

We need to different releases for it and let the public chose what one they want. Obvoiusly us fans will buy both!

Asha · 08 Jun 2003, 15:53

CarylB wrote:

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Just a note to say that the ROL site is unavailable for the moment, including the Questionnaire page. In working on our security settings e have unfortunately locked everyone, including ourselves out!! Until our server can let us in I'm afraid we're stymied .. but we'll get everything up and running as soon as we can, so those wishing to complete the Questionnaire please chack back tomorrow and if necessary Monday.

Woops, my fault?
I didn't mean that you had to lock the entire site

Just that you might up the security.....

Asha

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 15:57

Asha said:

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I didn't mean that you had to lock the entire site
Just that you might up the security.....

Ah .. but Vicki never does things by halves ..

No matter .. we're back ow :)

original sin · 08 Jun 2003, 15:59

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Originally Posted by ChrisNI

My dream release for testify would be:

CD1: Enhanced

Testify Album Version
Testify Radio Version
Testify Dance Mix (Lets get meatinto clubs!!)
Testify Video

CD2:

Testify Album Version
Did I Say That Live Cologne
Couldn’t Have Said It Better Live Cologne
Anything For Love Night of The Proms

We need to different releases for it and let the public chose what one they want. Obvoiusly us fans will buy both!

fill out a form then Chris Dreams can come true

Vickip · 08 Jun 2003, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Asha

CarylB wrote:

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Just a note to say that the ROL site is unavailable for the moment, including the Questionnaire page. In working on our security settings e have unfortunately locked everyone, including ourselves out!! Until our server can let us in I'm afraid we're stymied .. but we'll get everything up and running as soon as we can, so those wishing to complete the Questionnaire please chack back tomorrow and if necessary Monday.

Woops, my fault?
I didn't mean that you had to lock the entire site

Just that you might up the security.....

Asha

Hi Asha :)

Nope .. not at all! Actually I appreciate your help :)
I was trying to up the security .. as you suggested .. but I guess I pushed the wrong button

At least everything's up and running again now .. that's the main thing

Vicki

heat · 08 Jun 2003, 18:54

Just a stoopid question....

Are we only allowed to vote once or can we have multiple votes?

Just curious is all

Heat
xxx

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 18:59

Mercury want to know what each fan who takes part would like to see included on the new CD. My understanding is that each fan who participates will be entered once in the draw and that they will identify that through email address

Vickip · 08 Jun 2003, 19:34

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Asha said:

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I didn't mean that you had to lock the entire site
Just that you might up the security.....

Ah .. but Vicki never does things by halves ..

No matter .. we're back ow :)

Testify · 08 Jun 2003, 19:49

when do we now who won the draw?? im prob bein really stupid and missed it knowin me.

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 20:03

We've put a two week deadline on the completion of forms. Whether Mercury will extend that or not I don't know, but I assume they will do the draw soon after the cut-off. I'll post any information I get here :)

Testify · 08 Jun 2003, 20:12

thankyou CarylB

Dave · 08 Jun 2003, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Vickip

So hopefully we can put this petty jealousy behind us and get back to what's important ... supporting Meat and letting our voices be heard :)

I feel the need to speak up and inform you that your statements of opinion about someone being jealous are very misinformed - rather I would like to publically state that individuals are feeling very much violated and decieved by a false statement made by Caryl on not only this forum, but also to several Meat Loaf related mail lists. I have recieved several messages regarding this situation (to my e-mail, to my PM box here on the forum, as well as on the Instant Messenger programs). People are feeling NO FORM of jealousy. I think people are feeling decieved by the fact Caryl stated the results of the form were going straight to Mercury Records when in fact the results of the form were going straight to Caryl.

I would like to share a portion of the message I have sent out to a few people who have contacted me about this situation, which most have agreed with 100%.

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Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

Caryl stated that the poll entries were gong straight to Mercury Records - When the code of her poll page was analyzed by several different web people it was discovered all the poll entries were going straight to caryl@republic-of-loafdom dot com - There is NO INDICATION of these entries going to anyone at Mercury

I am ready for negative discussion to head my direction. I know that certain people will feel the need to lash out at me, but I stand firm in the fact that there was a vulgar display of deception on Caryl's part (which was retracted when myself, among other people were able to read her HTML code and find where the results of the form on her site were really going), and I am further confident in the fact that I am indeed "brave enough" to stand in a public forum and inform you that your statements about people being "jealous" are off base and unwarranted. People are feeling upset, hurt, and violated that someone with a website that claims to be as important as the Republic Of Loafdom would blatently decieve the entire Meat Loaf community in such a manner.

I would like to further commend whomever created the CHSIB World Tour Blog for stating an obvious irony in this whole RoL/Mercury Records situation.

I will now step down from my soap box and allow the chips to fall where they may. I know this will cause a heated discussion, and some individuals may feel are being singled out, but I feel that something needs to be said to bring the conversation into the right perspective.

Testify · 08 Jun 2003, 20:28

ok so now im totally confused, can some one put whats bin goin on in simple form cos im only a simple person

Guppie · 08 Jun 2003, 20:44

David,
This little Dutch fishy is not getting into [shark-modus] and I'm not into the lashing-out business either, so you have nothing to fear from me

But... Caryl did say that she didn't have a direct link yet. And that she would mail the entries to Mercury right? So in that case it makes sense that the feedbackforms go back to ROL...

I don't feel decieved, I mean: I just can't believe some one would lie about having contact with a record company. That's just not logical in my view.

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 20:49

I have already explained that because we do not have a working email link for the form to Mercury the forms have been sent on to them. I have made this clear on the board. And anyone who had concerns could have written to ME and I would have expained. I hope to get this sorted out with Mercury on MOnday as I said. All the forms submitted so far have been sent to the Product Manager. The majority of people clearly do not share David Driskell's view.

I point out also he has not had the simple decency of writing to me about this. I will say not a further word about him .. frankly this kind of smear campaign is not worth responding to. At least I can sleep nights.

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 20:51

Thanks Guppie. I've only just seen your message. And Testify, sorry I ca't explain the thinking and behavious of some people. Just rest assured that this is a genuine request from Mercury's Project Mamnager, and that your forms will have been sent to him.

Dave · 08 Jun 2003, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Guppie

Caryl did say that she didn't have a direct link yet. And that she would mail the entries to Mercury right? So in that case it makes sense that the feedbackforms go back to ROL...

This was part of her retraction. If you read her original posting, you will see she said the results were going straight to Mercury's Product Manager. She said NOTHING about forwarding them to this individual.

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Originally Posted by Caryl Burton in a post to the Jim Steinman Mail List on 06/05/2003

Your replies go straight to Mercury's Product Manager

I did acknowledge that she stated a retraction to this statement. But, her first statement was inaccurate.

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 20:56

Oh and David .. the forms go to myself and Vicki, and will continue to do this even when we have the email link working to Mercury. And as I have already pointed out, the acknowledgements will continue to come from ROL as we host the form.

As to all these people you have emailed trying to stir up trouble, send me copies of their concers and I'll reply to each individually and ask Clive to respond to them if need be. Like I said before when you were conducting a campaign against me with the OIFC, hard evidence please.

CarylB · 08 Jun 2003, 20:56

The first statement was inaccurate because the email address did not arrive in time from Mercury you ass

Dave · 08 Jun 2003, 21:00

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Originally Posted by CarylB

As to all these people you have emailed trying to stir up trouble, send me copies of their concers and I'll reply to each individually

My ethincal code does not permit me to share personal e-mail without permission.

Sorry!

Dave · 08 Jun 2003, 21:01

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Originally Posted by CarylB

frankly this kind of smear campaign is not worth responding to.

Since when is bringing the TRUTH to light a smear campaign?

**The Flying Mouse** · 08 Jun 2003, 21:09

Caryl.
With respect,David has received queries on this subject,and as a moderator it is his JOB to respond to any questions or complaints made by the membership on any subject posted on these boards.That's what we're here for.
The fact that information given in your first post was inacurate has caused some concern amongst members.Therefore it must be addressed.

R. · 08 Jun 2003, 21:12

This thing is way off topic and now nothing more than a battleground for personal attacks.
We don't need this here.

Locked.

08 Jun 2003, 15:35	#51
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	My dream release for testify would be: CD1: Enhanced Testify Album Version Testify Radio Version Testify Dance Mix (Lets get meatinto clubs!!) Testify Video CD2: Testify Album Version Did I Say That Live Cologne Couldn’t Have Said It Better Live Cologne Anything For Love Night of The Proms We need to different releases for it and let the public chose what one they want. Obvoiusly us fans will buy both!

08 Jun 2003, 18:54	#56
heat Rampant Loafer... Join Date: 29.07.2002 Location: welshy wales Posts: 5,706	Just a stoopid question.... Are we only allowed to vote once or can we have multiple votes? Just curious is all Heat xxx

08 Jun 2003, 18:59	#57
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Mercury want to know what each fan who takes part would like to see included on the new CD. My understanding is that each fan who participates will be entered once in the draw and that they will identify that through email address

08 Jun 2003, 19:49	#59
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	when do we now who won the draw?? im prob bein really stupid and missed it knowin me.

08 Jun 2003, 20:03	#60
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	We've put a two week deadline on the completion of forms. Whether Mercury will extend that or not I don't know, but I assume they will do the draw soon after the cut-off. I'll post any information I get here :)

08 Jun 2003, 20:12	#61
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	thankyou CarylB

08 Jun 2003, 20:28	#63
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	ok so now im totally confused, can some one put whats bin goin on in simple form cos im only a simple person

08 Jun 2003, 20:44	#64
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	David, This little Dutch fishy is not getting into [shark-modus] and I'm not into the lashing-out business either, so you have nothing to fear from me But... Caryl did say that she didn't have a direct link yet. And that she would mail the entries to Mercury right? So in that case it makes sense that the feedbackforms go back to ROL... I don't feel decieved, I mean: I just can't believe some one would lie about having contact with a record company. That's just not logical in my view.

08 Jun 2003, 20:49	#65
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I have already explained that because we do not have a working email link for the form to Mercury the forms have been sent on to them. I have made this clear on the board. And anyone who had concerns could have written to ME and I would have expained. I hope to get this sorted out with Mercury on MOnday as I said. All the forms submitted so far have been sent to the Product Manager. The majority of people clearly do not share David Driskell's view. I point out also he has not had the simple decency of writing to me about this. I will say not a further word about him .. frankly this kind of smear campaign is not worth responding to. At least I can sleep nights.

08 Jun 2003, 20:51	#66
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Thanks Guppie. I've only just seen your message. And Testify, sorry I ca't explain the thinking and behavious of some people. Just rest assured that this is a genuine request from Mercury's Project Mamnager, and that your forms will have been sent to him.

08 Jun 2003, 20:56	#68
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Oh and David .. the forms go to myself and Vicki, and will continue to do this even when we have the email link working to Mercury. And as I have already pointed out, the acknowledgements will continue to come from ROL as we host the form. As to all these people you have emailed trying to stir up trouble, send me copies of their concers and I'll reply to each individually and ask Clive to respond to them if need be. Like I said before when you were conducting a campaign against me with the OIFC, hard evidence please.

08 Jun 2003, 21:09	#72
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Caryl. With respect,David has received queries on this subject,and as a moderator it is his JOB to respond to any questions or complaints made by the membership on any subject posted on these boards.That's what we're here for. The fact that information given in your first post was inacurate has caused some concern amongst members.Therefore it must be addressed.

08 Jun 2003, 21:12	#73
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	This thing is way off topic and now nothing more than a battleground for personal attacks. We don't need this here. Locked.