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Old 09 May 2006, 22:56   #26
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He is an actor...he gets into the role/part every time he sings the song...
But after some time it must be just,... boring... to do one role everytime again.
We had a singer here in Germany, called Rex Gildo, he did one song everytime again and he had no other sucessful song, just "Fiesta Mexicana".
And about 10 years ago, he had enough of it, and jumped out of the window of the 4th floor.
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Old 09 May 2006, 23:13   #27
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But after some time it must be just,... boring... to do one role everytime again.
We had a singer here in Germany, called Rex Gildo, he did one song everytime again and he had no other sucessful song, just "Fiesta Mexicana".
And about 10 years ago, he had enough of it, and jumped out of the window of the 4th floor.
... i can't imagine that was the only reason he jumped out a window.. ... however..Meat was asked ..just that question... if he ever tires of singing ie Paradise.. i believe ..and the answer was.. no ...

anyroad..when it comes to Paradise..imo.. each tour..there's always something magic..and always something new.. ergo ipso facto... he doesn't tire of it..and neither do i... ...

tink..and her two cents ****ed..... oops..she means.. thrown.. lol...
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Old 10 May 2006, 00:03   #28
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But after some time it must be just,... boring... to do one role everytime again.
We had a singer here in Germany, called Rex Gildo, he did one song everytime again and he had no other sucessful song, just "Fiesta Mexicana".
And about 10 years ago, he had enough of it, and jumped out of the window of the 4th floor.
I don't know if you intended this to be funny...and I am sorry if you didn't...but I am laughing so hard here I am crying...Listen...if I had a name like Gildo (rhymes with something else) I would have jumped regardless.

Seriously speaking - I know what you mean and I have to say this. I think ML is one of the most gracious performers there is. He knows that no matter what he does and/or what he sings...his fans would want to hear Paradise and Bat...and he doesn't disappoint, although these are complicated songs and take a lot out of him. I believe he keeps on singing them for his fans...and not for his wealth and certainly not for his health (misquoting Everything Louder Than Everything Else). I don't believe he ever performed these songs exactly the same way though...Paradise in Radio City Hall in NY was like a little play in 3 or so acts - didn't see that type of performance before or again.

Once again...we, as fans, expect certain songs from our idols. Bonnie Tyler would have been expected to sing Total Eclipse of The Heart until she is 90 and if Freddie Mercury would have been alive, he would still be expected to sing We're The Champions. And many of those performers just want to sing new stuff regardless of their fans...so, once again...ML just delivers what his fans expect him to...

I am so sorry this is so long...and I might be wrong...but this is what I think...
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Old 10 May 2006, 00:11   #29
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however..Meat was asked ..just that question... if he ever tires of singing ie Paradise.. i believe ..and the answer was.. no ...

Yes, and he's also suggested you ask any actor if they tire of performing for eg a Shakespearean role .. his point being that because he performs the songs, rather than merely sings them, he doesn't tire of them .. Particularly because, as you say, he builds differences in delivery each time.

Yes. I suspect he performs certain songs at every show because he knows his fans will want to hear them .. but I also think he does this because they're great songs and he enjoys the delivery, and doesn't do this just to please us, but because he CAN bring something new to them each time and keep them fresh .. and that's the challenge for an actor, and the challenge in creativity that I believe he relishes :)

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Old 10 May 2006, 00:21   #30
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You both are quite right. As Mszee said, Meat does indeed know that BOOH and Paradise are top fan favorites, and songs he is known for. And at the same time, as CarylB said, he performs them rather than sings them, so he does indeed relish doing them differently each time as a challenge for him in interpretation and improvisation. As various band members have said, you never know what Meat will do next, and Meat said that of himself on the MSO commentary.
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Old 10 May 2006, 02:22   #31
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tink wrote:
however..Meat was asked ..just that question... if he ever tires of singing ie Paradise.. i believe ..and the answer was.. no ...

Yes, and he's also suggested you ask any actor if they tire of performing for eg a Shakespearean role .. his point being that because he performs the songs, rather than merely sings them, he doesn't tire of them .. Particularly because, as you say, he builds differences in delivery each time.

Yes. I suspect he performs certain songs at every show because he knows his fans will want to hear them .. but I also think he does this because they're great songs and he enjoys the delivery, and doesn't do this just to please us, but because he CAN bring something new to them each time and keep them fresh .. and that's the challenge for an actor, and the challenge in creativity that I believe he relishes :)

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Old 10 May 2006, 12:09   #32
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Big thanks to Amazon, for sending out my stuff so I got it the day after I ordered it all, I've just finished watching this dvd, and I only have one word to say - Awesome!
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Old 10 May 2006, 17:57   #33
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if I had a name like Gildo (rhymes with something else) I would have jumped regardless.

I never had thought of that!
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Yes. I suspect he performs certain songs at every show because he knows his fans will want to hear them .. but I also think he does this because they're great songs and he enjoys the delivery, and doesn't do this just to please us, but because he CAN bring something new to them each time and keep them fresh .. and that's the challenge for an actor, and the challenge in creativity that I believe he relishes :)
I think youīre right.
But I think thatīs also important for him, that the fans donīt want to hear just the "old" songs. They wanna hear the new songs, too.
I never heard someone say "Man, we donīthis F**king CHSIB stuff, sing Paradise or get off that F**king stage!!!"
Do You know what I mean?
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Old 10 May 2006, 19:16   #34
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I think youīre right.
But I think thatīs also important for him, that the fans donīt want to hear just the "old" songs. They wanna hear the new songs, too.
I never heard someone say "Man, we donīthis F**king CHSIB stuff, sing Paradise or get off that F**king stage!!!"
Do You know what I mean?
Although I see your point...I don't think any of us have any idea what would have happened if he, in fact, didn't sing BOOH or PBTDL in one of his concerts. I actually was to some concerts of other artists where audience expected certain song/songs to be performed and artist decided to omit them. When fans realize that this is the end of the performance...and "their" song/songs were not performed...they go berserk...I know one singer (no name) whose subsequent concert to the one, where she skipped expected song and refused to sing it upon request, was boycotted by her fans.I know it's an extreme example...but you never know...
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Old 11 May 2006, 02:42   #35
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To go back to the thought of Meat being bored with BOOH...

It came as a surprise to me to learn that tour books for the *same* tour differ from country to country, so apologies to anyone who has seen this.

In my CHSIB tour book, there are a series of questions to Meat and his answers. One of the questions asked is "Aren't you sick of Bat Out Of Hell?"

Meat replies: "Absolutely not. I couldn't possibly be. Do classical musicians get tired of playing great Mahler pieces? They do not because there's so much inspiration inside every note. It's like, I've seen the play Death of a Salesman so many times, but I'll keep seeing it. Listen to me, there is so much quality, so much intrigue and so much passion inside thoses lyrics and that music that I could never get tired of singing it. It's a new moment every time I do it. I have Bat Out Of Hell in my car and I listen to it there. It's magic."
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Old 11 May 2006, 12:47   #36
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To go back to the thought of Meat being bored with BOOH...

It came as a surprise to me to learn that tour books for the *same* tour differ from country to country, so apologies to anyone who has seen this.

In my CHSIB tour book, there are a series of questions to Meat and his answers. One of the questions asked is "Aren't you sick of Bat Out Of Hell?"

Meat replies: "Absolutely not. I couldn't possibly be. Do classical musicians get tired of playing great Mahler pieces? They do not because there's so much inspiration inside every note. It's like, I've seen the play Death of a Salesman so many times, but I'll keep seeing it. Listen to me, there is so much quality, so much intrigue and so much passion inside thoses lyrics and that music that I could never get tired of singing it. It's a new moment every time I do it. I have Bat Out Of Hell in my car and I listen to it there. It's magic."
Yep, I have that tour book. I was going to post that today, you beat me to it.

Have you noticed the massive typo in it. On the Double Page spread with shots from the videos it says

DID I SAID THAT?

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Old 11 May 2006, 12:51   #37
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Yep, I have that tour book. I was going to post that today, you bet me too it.

Have you noticed the massive typo in it. On the Double Page spread with shots from the videos it says

DID I SAID THAT?
.. i don't think i have that book... but..ummm... "you BET me TOO it" ?... talk of your typos.. rolling...

t.. giggling at the irony.. meaning no harm... ... and offering up Ross some kwaff ... ... lol ...
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Old 11 May 2006, 12:58   #38
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I never said that.....LOL look again!!!!

Thanks for the kwaff...

Besides I'm not the publisher for Meat's tour am I??
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Old 11 May 2006, 13:06   #39
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I never said that.....LOL look again!!!!

Thanks for the kwaff...

Besides I'm not the publisher for Meat's tour am I??
..oh you wise-guy.. lol...

you're welcome and no..you're not.. and..

back to subject !!

everybuddy have a happy meatie day either listening to the cd or watching the dvd... ...
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Old 11 May 2006, 22:43   #40
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Yep, I have that tour book. I was going to post that today, you beat me to it.

Have you noticed the massive typo in it. On the Double Page spread with shots from the videos it says




DID I SAID THAT?


Does anyone know how many different versions there are of the CHSIB tour book? In the UK there was the one Ross mentions above with the typo. There was a later reprint during the UK leg of the tour with the correct spelling and quite a number of different photos to the first book. The Australian/New Zealand tour book has many different photos and page layouts to either of the UK ones.

Maybe the American book is different as well.

This doesn't seem to be too unusual ...... the same thing happened with the Best Of tour book but to a lesser extent.

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Old 11 May 2006, 22:45   #41
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The American book is different, but vrg can fill you in on that better than I can.
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Old 11 May 2006, 22:49   #42
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Thanks Lotus. I had a feeling it might be!

Apologies for taking this thread off topic ....

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Old 11 May 2006, 23:14   #43
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I do have the CHSIB tourbook as Lotus mentioned. She and I had discovered differences before. I'll take a look and compare on what has been mentioned on this thread.
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Thanks vrg.

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Old 12 May 2006, 03:10   #45
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I really do need to buy the DVD and the CD.. I'm so behind.
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