60th worst pop song ever… - Page 2

Mike Piercy · 02 Jan 2004, 21:00

This programme should be nominated for the worst programme of all time.

Rob The Badger · 02 Jan 2004, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Mike Piercy

This programme should be nominated for the worst programme of all time.

No, that spot is reserved for "An Audience With Cliff Richard". . .aural and visual torture!

ChoccyBat · 02 Jan 2004, 23:37

Also, Rock Opera is not a genre, it's something Steinman invented to make the songs sound better.[/quote]

You really don't know anything about Steinman do you?! BOOH was a rock opera that turned into an album! Rock Opera is very much a genre, and IWDAFL is NOT a pop song. Steinman would not invent that, he does what he wants and if it sells so be it. Thats the genius of him.

ChoccyBat · 02 Jan 2004, 23:50

Anyway, guys Cheer up! As I sit here to my left is The Best Rock Ballads in the world ever CD, and Number 1 on CD2 is IWDAFL!!!!!!!!!!!! ROCK ballads, not Pop!

And its also on my Power Ballads CD.

:P

Proper music, not the pap that the voters of that programme probably listen to.

shadow1000001 · 03 Jan 2004, 00:48

Who ever made this list needs a life

meatfan · 03 Jan 2004, 01:57

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Rob The Badger wrote

No, that spot is reserved for "An Audience With Cliff Richard". . .aural and visual torture!

How I agree! Cliff Richard (Yuk!)

Heather.

AndyNI · 03 Jan 2004, 03:25

That guitar intro is NOT pop... it's spine-chilling rock!

evil nickname · 03 Jan 2004, 03:44

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Originally Posted by Rob The Badger

Also, Rock Opera is not a genre, it's something Steinman invented to make the songs sound better.

Rock opera isn't a genre in the most strict use of the word, The Who's Tommy is a rock opera. Pinball Wizard is part of a rock opera, but a rock song (or a pop song) in it's own right.
Bat Out Of Hell II is not a rock opera, thus Anything For Love is not part of a rock opera. It could be a operatic rock song, or a theatric rock song, or whatever you like to call it.

Bottomline: People have an opinion on IDAFL(BIWDT). Good for them. Even if they hate it with a vengeance. If all people would have the same opion of all the same things, I'd emigrate to outerspace to find a species I can argue with about taste and stuff. Cause if there is one thing you should argue about, then it is taste. Or so I think. Feel free to argue :)

RSG · 03 Jan 2004, 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoccyBat

Also, Rock Opera is not a genre, it's something Steinman invented to make the songs sound better.

You really don't know anything about Steinman do you?! BOOH was a rock opera that turned into an album! Rock Opera is very much a genre, and IWDAFL is NOT a pop song. Steinman would not invent that, he does what he wants and if it sells so be it. Thats the genius of him.

Exactly right. This song is not POP, this is Rock Opera. One of the very best of its kind. It's a unique sound, really beautiful song, with great length sung by a talented man. And written by a talented man. All I have to say.

RSG · 03 Jan 2004, 03:51

OH, and i do agree that Mr Blobby deserves the spot he is in.

See the interview I believe with Grahmm McNully and Meat Loaf. Very funny. I will find that Mr. Blobby, me and Meat will track him down. hehe

Skeleton · 03 Jan 2004, 12:53

I didn´t see the show but who the f*** made the list?

Maybe they don´t understand the lyrics ´couse even I know what "that" means. And AFL is definetly ROCK song.

Meat won the best male performance Grammy in 1994. And the song was I Would Do Anything For Love (But I Won´t Do That) (if I remember right)

Mike Piercy wrote:

Quote:

This programme should be nominated for the worst programme of all time.

I couldn´t have said it better myself.

rachelba · 03 Jan 2004, 16:33

My two most hated Meat Loaf statements are:
What is the"that" in IWDAFL? LISTEN TO THE WORDS ITS OBVIOUS!!!!

and

what every "witty" interviewer says "Isn't it amusing that you are called Meat Loaf but you're a vegetarian" very amusing, NOT!!

Rob The Badger · 03 Jan 2004, 17:48

Let's recap shall we:

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IWDAFL is NOT a pop song.

Please define pop.

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Power Ballads CD.

That song has more pop songs on it that any other CD bar the NOW collection. . .except maybe the R.E.M. one.
It also has Total Eclipse Of The Heart, another pop song.

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It's a unique sound

Guns 'N' Roses - November *ahem*

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That guitar intro is NOT pop... it's spine-chilling rock!

Brian May made some cracking guitar riffs in his time. Queen were a pop band.

Crystal Eyes · 03 Jan 2004, 18:10

As I think what Rob is trying to get at the problem here is what is the definition of 'pop'. My understanding is that the word 'pop' originally came from the word 'popular'. So if something was described as 'pop' it simply meant it was popular. Now of course 'pop' has come to mean the sort of stuff produced by Britney Spears and Westlife. So it is possible to describe something as 'rock' and 'pop' if you are using the first definition of pop.

Crystal

PS Forgive my incessant use of inverted commas

Rob The Badger · 03 Jan 2004, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Eyes

As I think what Rob is trying to get at the problem here is what is the definition of 'pop'. My understanding is that the word 'pop' originally came from the word 'popular'. So if something was described as 'pop' it simply meant it was popular. Now of course 'pop' has come to mean the sort of stuff produced by Britney Spears and Westlife. So it is possible to describe something as 'rock' and 'pop' if you are using the first definition of pop.

Crystal

PS Forgive my incessant use of inverted commas

Yes. . . that's it. People are confusing the word 'pop' meaning mainstream popular music (which would include Meat Loaf) with the b4stardised form used to describe Britney Spear's output.

OFF TOPIC

And am I sensing a mass repulsion of 'pop' music simply because it's is just that? If it's a good pop song just like it because of that, don't just dismiss it as "chart pap". For exapmle, Ms. Spears's first few singles were incredibly catchy and well put together, as were a few songs on this list, Wannabe for example. As it happens, I think The Spice Girls relesed some of the best pop singles of the late nineties.

Embrace the pop people!

little_dancer · 08 Jan 2004, 00:27

Well, regardless of whether one would define it as pop or rock, it's still a brilliant song...and in so far as 'that chick would never fancy him' 1- he's a sex icon, 2- both Leslie AND Deborah are GORGEOUS women, 3-what does that have to do with whether you like the song or not?

Meat Loaf's hot, the media people just haven't figured it out yet (poor archetypical dears!)

By the way, what's up with the 'Canadian Blubber butt' bit??? I don't think anybody else has brought this up yet--- but....Were they insinuating that Meat Loaf is Canadian??? I've never heard THAT one before- sometimes people have wrongfully assumed he was from the UK, but Canada??? What show was this on, and do they have a map

incidentally- yay Canada! We're cooler by mistaken identity

rick · 09 Jan 2004, 11:16

let's get things in perspective here,this poll was voted for by the public.
the majority of people who are daft enough to vote for this rubbish are between 16-30yrs old(harris survey 2003)so

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End of the day, it was the biggest selling single of 1993 (from the biggest selling album 0f 1993) , and is included in much more positive polls than negative, and at a much higher position

when it was released the average age of the people who voted was 14yrs old
so it comes to this

when in 1993 (afl)was released all the voters and so called music experts were at that time more bothered about trying to get laid behind the bike shed's with their b&h ciggies
and jimmy savile was wondering if he wuold ever get laid again
(do you ever think why he has allways got a big fat cigar in his mouth???)
let them think what they want!
we know better*****

p.s. channel 4 get a life learn geography

needmoremeat · 09 Jan 2004, 20:46

I never thought about "pop" coming from "popular". I think it's cos it really has become the word to describe stuff like Britney etc, and when I hear pop I immediatly think of stuff like that and think puke, unless it's old pop, I can handle old pop, it's just all this new tripe in the charts that bothers me.
I saw Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody video the other day....It's pop as in popular, cos they were really popular, but not in genre, genre's more rock/hard rock.
So...in that poll, did they mean pop genre wise or popular wise? If they meant popular wise, well, it was a popular song, being the best selling single of the year. It must have been popular if I knew the title and performer of it, being six at the time!!!! I think also when they added the word "worst" to it, and the comments made about both the song and Meat got me annoyed. If they meant pop as in genre, then those comments added insult to injury!

RSG · 11 Jan 2004, 08:32

Meat Loaf

Born: IN Dallas(I beieve) Texas, America, United States. You must be able to tell by his accent.

He said once, "Once your a texan, your always a texan."

little_dancer · 12 Jan 2004, 14:24

Oh yes, I know that he was born in Dallas, Texas (Baylor hospital to be exact, according to his bio) I was just commenting on how odd it was to suggest he was Canadian!!!

I've just never heard THAT one before!

02 Jan 2004, 21:00	#26
Mike Piercy cat out of hell Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: With the black cat where the rubber meets the road Posts: 618	This programme should be nominated for the worst programme of all time.

02 Jan 2004, 23:37	#28
ChoccyBat Yorkie Join Date: 27.07.2002 Location: York Posts: 415	Also, Rock Opera is not a genre, it's something Steinman invented to make the songs sound better.[/quote] You really don't know anything about Steinman do you?! BOOH was a rock opera that turned into an album! Rock Opera is very much a genre, and IWDAFL is NOT a pop song. Steinman would not invent that, he does what he wants and if it sells so be it. Thats the genius of him.

02 Jan 2004, 23:50	#29
ChoccyBat Yorkie Join Date: 27.07.2002 Location: York Posts: 415	Anyway, guys Cheer up! As I sit here to my left is The Best Rock Ballads in the world ever CD, and Number 1 on CD2 is IWDAFL!!!!!!!!!!!! ROCK ballads, not Pop! And its also on my Power Ballads CD. :P Proper music, not the pap that the voters of that programme probably listen to.

03 Jan 2004, 00:48	#30
shadow1000001 Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.07.2003 Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada Posts: 2,580	Who ever made this list needs a life

03 Jan 2004, 03:25	#32
AndyNI Loafer Join Date: 06.12.2003 Posts: 56	That guitar intro is NOT pop... it's spine-chilling rock!

03 Jan 2004, 03:51	#35
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	OH, and i do agree that Mr Blobby deserves the spot he is in. See the interview I believe with Grahmm McNully and Meat Loaf. Very funny. I will find that Mr. Blobby, me and Meat will track him down. hehe

03 Jan 2004, 16:33	#37
rachelba Senior Loafer Join Date: 15.11.2003 Location: Rotherham, South Yorks, England Posts: 195	My two most hated Meat Loaf statements are: What is the"that" in IWDAFL? LISTEN TO THE WORDS ITS OBVIOUS!!!! and what every "witty" interviewer says "Isn't it amusing that you are called Meat Loaf but you're a vegetarian" very amusing, NOT!!

03 Jan 2004, 18:10	#39
Crystal Eyes Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: In the clouds Posts: 649	As I think what Rob is trying to get at the problem here is what is the definition of 'pop'. My understanding is that the word 'pop' originally came from the word 'popular'. So if something was described as 'pop' it simply meant it was popular. Now of course 'pop' has come to mean the sort of stuff produced by Britney Spears and Westlife. So it is possible to describe something as 'rock' and 'pop' if you are using the first definition of pop. Crystal PS Forgive my incessant use of inverted commas

08 Jan 2004, 00:27	#41
little_dancer Super Loafer Join Date: 23.06.2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 363	Well, regardless of whether one would define it as pop or rock, it's still a brilliant song...and in so far as 'that chick would never fancy him' 1- he's a sex icon, 2- both Leslie AND Deborah are GORGEOUS women, 3-what does that have to do with whether you like the song or not? Meat Loaf's hot, the media people just haven't figured it out yet (poor archetypical dears!) By the way, what's up with the 'Canadian Blubber butt' bit??? I don't think anybody else has brought this up yet--- but....Were they insinuating that Meat Loaf is Canadian??? I've never heard THAT one before- sometimes people have wrongfully assumed he was from the UK, but Canada??? What show was this on, and do they have a map incidentally- yay Canada! We're cooler by mistaken identity

09 Jan 2004, 20:46	#43
needmoremeat Mega Loafer Join Date: 23.11.2003 Location: Sunderland, UK Posts: 1,416	I never thought about "pop" coming from "popular". I think it's cos it really has become the word to describe stuff like Britney etc, and when I hear pop I immediatly think of stuff like that and think puke, unless it's old pop, I can handle old pop, it's just all this new tripe in the charts that bothers me. I saw Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody video the other day....It's pop as in popular, cos they were really popular, but not in genre, genre's more rock/hard rock. So...in that poll, did they mean pop genre wise or popular wise? If they meant popular wise, well, it was a popular song, being the best selling single of the year. It must have been popular if I knew the title and performer of it, being six at the time!!!! I think also when they added the word "worst" to it, and the comments made about both the song and Meat got me annoyed. If they meant pop as in genre, then those comments added insult to injury!

11 Jan 2004, 08:32	#44
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	Meat Loaf Born: IN Dallas(I beieve) Texas, America, United States. You must be able to tell by his accent. He said once, "Once your a texan, your always a texan."

12 Jan 2004, 14:24	#45
little_dancer Super Loafer Join Date: 23.06.2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 363	Oh yes, I know that he was born in Dallas, Texas (Baylor hospital to be exact, according to his bio) I was just commenting on how odd it was to suggest he was Canadian!!! I've just never heard THAT one before!