3 Bats Live: Bad For Good REEDITED - Page 2

Evil One · 24 Sep 2010, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Elijah's way

What?? I have know idea what you are talking about!! This song, Boneyard, Like A Rose, Mercury Blues, and Whore are the only songs that I don't like that Meat has done. So get you're facts straight before you start talking shit

How can you not like Mercury Blues? Are you talking the studio effort or Meat's take on the song in general? I'd put the performance on the MSO DVD in my top Meat live recordings any day.

Elijah's way · 24 Sep 2010, 00:15

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Charming...

yeah well you have to be sometimes

Sarge · 24 Sep 2010, 00:19

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Originally Posted by Elijah's way

What?? I have know idea what you are talking about!! This song, Boneyard, Like A Rose, Mercury Blues, and Whore are the only songs that I don't like that Meat has done. So get you're facts straight before you start talking shit

You forgot Los Angeloser. But it's not so much the songs I referred to. Do you remember this: http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=468003? That's what you said about people who said they didn't like a song.

Elijah's way · 24 Sep 2010, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Evil One

How can you not like Mercury Blues? Are you talking the studio effort or Meat's take on the song in general? I'd put the performance on the MSO DVD in my top Meat live recordings any day.

I just think the lyrics are so stupid!! I don't get why anyone would do this song, and I don't get why someone wrote a song about a crap car

sorry that's just how I feel about it.

Sarge · 24 Sep 2010, 00:22

Do you know when and by whom it was written? Obviously a large number of musicians have a different point of view, otherwise it wouldn't have been covered that often.

Wario · 24 Sep 2010, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Evil One

I'd put the performance on the MSO DVD in my top Meat live recordings any day.

Not according to this:

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15634

AndrewG · 24 Sep 2010, 00:27

I like Mercury and thought it was a nice surprise on CHSIB. I liked how they credited in the booklet "on the bumper". I was like

is that about until I got to the last tracks and found out about the hidden song. As it was at that time perhaps going to be Meat's last album I think he wanted to go out with a fun rock song hence decided to put it on after Forever Young.

Evil One · 24 Sep 2010, 00:28

Not all songs need to have deep and meaningful lyrics. Compare a top notch, three course meal to a decent plate of fish and chips; both excellent in their own way.

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Not according to this:

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15634

What's at number 10 then?

Elijah's way · 24 Sep 2010, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Sarge

You forgot Los Angeloser. But it's not so much the songs I referred to. Do you remember this: http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=468003? That's what you said about people who said they didn't like a song.

No I didn't forget about Los Angeloser I do like that song I know you may think I'm contradicting myself but the things I said about it were about how much better the other songs are on the album accept Like A Rose, and that it was a bad choice for a single when you have songs like Song Of Madness, and Peace On Earth. And sorry but opinions change

Wario · 24 Sep 2010, 00:30

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I like Mercury and thought it was a nice surprise on CHSIB. I liked how they credited in the booklet "on the bumper". I was like

is that about until I got to the last tracks and found out about the hidden song. As it was at that time perhaps going to be Meat's last album I think he wanted to go out with a fun rock song hence decided to put it on after Forever Young.

yeah and at the end he was says "im gonna get e a real job!"

also, i think he truly felt that the MS Bat was is final bat he'd ever do for a camera.

AndrewG · 24 Sep 2010, 00:36

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

also, i think he truly felt that the MS Bat was is final bat he'd ever do for a camera.

Hmmm I'm not sure about that (though I do know what you mean about the final pan-shot it's a stunning image of Meat at the end of Bat), during the CHSIB tour it emerged Meat was going to record Bat 3 (WITH Jim at that point) and he was talking about a two night stand type show thing across several cities to perform all Bat songs back to back. During the early months of 2004 he was at times annoyed with the reviews (mostly from here I think) and did threaten to quit but I doubt he really thought MSO was the last Bat performance ever.

Meat seems to go up and down in his thought process after shows but I'm not so sure he thinks those kinda negative things during shows. If you listen to the commentary track on MSO you can hear his excitement at getting out there to tour again which he did in 2005 even though there wasn't a record yet.

Elijah's way · 24 Sep 2010, 00:47

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Do you know when and by whom it was written? Obviously a large number of musicians have a different point of view, otherwise it wouldn't have been covered that often.

Yes it was written in 1949 by K. C. Douglas and Robert Geddins.

Sarge · 24 Sep 2010, 00:53

Did you just copy that from Wikipedia or do you really know the background to the song?

duke knooby · 24 Sep 2010, 01:45

i can listen to mercury blues, but it doesn't move me.. i wouldn't go searching to hear it, but if i heard it, i wouldn't skip it. (though its VERY VERY rare chsib gets an outing from me)

bad for good, i first heard on audio cassette on the meat loaf and friends tape, and i liked it... got the bad for good cd, and still liked it... never loved it though... its not a particularly great song in my opinion.. and if i listened to bat 3 much (which i dont) it would usually get skipped.

Wario · 24 Sep 2010, 01:48

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

i can listen to mercury blues, but it doesn't move me.. i wouldn't go searching to hear it, but if i heard it, i wouldn't skip it. (though its VERY VERY rare chsib gets an outing from me)

bad for good, i first heard on audio cassette on the meat loaf and friends tape, and i liked it... got the bad for good cd, and still liked it... never loved it though... its not a particularly great song in my opinion.. and if i listened to bat 3 much (which i dont) it would usually get skipped.

what meat cds do you listen to aha

duke knooby · 24 Sep 2010, 01:52

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

what meat cds do you listen to aha

less and less since 07 on... theyre becoming more like a rare treat rather than the non stop staple they were... purely because the more recent stuff hasn't moved me as much as the earlier stuff... and the earlier stuff i played to death and it needed a rest (or i did)

currently dead ringer in the car though for about 6 days

PanicLord · 24 Sep 2010, 02:01

I really like the way the loudness works on modern recordings. To me, it makes all the instruments and voices clear and distinct with none of the "fuzziness" of eg bat 2. on hctb I do find that this makes the first 7 songs quite exhausting to listen to as everything is so in your face.

But firstly, that to me is just part of what I like about the album and it suits both the songs and the story.

Secondly, it makes me appreciate dyels all the more, for the contrast and the brief welcome respite before the rocking starts again.

Sarge · 24 Sep 2010, 02:11

Bad For Good is a good song. None of my favorites but good. Could sound fantastic with proper arrangement, vocals and production.

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

less and less since 07 on... theyre becoming more like a rare treat rather than the non stop staple they were

Same here.

Elijah's way · 24 Sep 2010, 02:31

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Did you just copy that from Wikipedia or do you really know the background to the song?

Wikipedia

Sarge · 24 Sep 2010, 02:42

That's what I suspected.

Explains why you complain about the "stupid lyrics" and "don't get why someone wrote a song about a crap car".

Wario · 24 Sep 2010, 02:47

about mercury blues, trying to make this related to 3 bats as possible, the 3 bats DVD version i can see why youd hate it.

But i like it to the extent it should have been given a rest from 2007-2008.

The writing is great!

I mean you cant compare it to the writing in Steinman shit But its still excellent.

mercury's weakest moment was on the 3 Bats DVD. I really think it was unnecessary.

AndrewG · 24 Sep 2010, 03:01

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

mercury's weakest moment was on the 3 Bats DVD. I really think it was unnecessary.

Many don't like it, but I personally think it's a decent show and shows some good/average highlights from a "fluctuating in quality" tour. Obviously I would have preferred RAH on DVD (who wouldn't?!) but then there wouldn't have been any space for a cameraman from where many of us were standing.

Sarge · 24 Sep 2010, 03:02

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

mercury's weakest moment was on the 3 Bats DVD.

Let's forget that DVD that shows Meat in a pitiable state (and hope for a better, new DVD). Let's assume you had unlimited means to re-record Bad For Good. What would a perfect version of it sound like?

Wario · 24 Sep 2010, 03:06

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Let's forget that DVD that shows Meat in a pitiable state (and hope for a better, new DVD). Let's assume you had unlimited means to re-record Bad For Good. What would a perfect version of it sound like?

Jims version Instrumentation + bat 3 vocal (and repeated riffs). hands down.

AndrewG · 24 Sep 2010, 03:11

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Jims version Instrumentation + bat 3 vocal (and repeated riffs). hands down.

So you don't agree with Steve6 who thinks that the drums on Jim's BFG sucked and sound like pots and pans? I don't get what he is on about to be honest. I love the instrumentation and drum sound on Jim's whole album. For 1981 it's a fantastic production that still sounds modern to this day imo.

24 Sep 2010, 00:22	#30
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Do you know when and by whom it was written? Obviously a large number of musicians have a different point of view, otherwise it wouldn't have been covered that often.

24 Sep 2010, 00:27	#32
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	I like Mercury and thought it was a nice surprise on CHSIB. I liked how they credited in the booklet "on the bumper". I was like is that about until I got to the last tracks and found out about the hidden song. As it was at that time perhaps going to be Meat's last album I think he wanted to go out with a fun rock song hence decided to put it on after Forever Young.

24 Sep 2010, 00:53	#38
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Did you just copy that from Wikipedia or do you really know the background to the song?

24 Sep 2010, 01:45	#39
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,897	i can listen to mercury blues, but it doesn't move me.. i wouldn't go searching to hear it, but if i heard it, i wouldn't skip it. (though its VERY VERY rare chsib gets an outing from me) bad for good, i first heard on audio cassette on the meat loaf and friends tape, and i liked it... got the bad for good cd, and still liked it... never loved it though... its not a particularly great song in my opinion.. and if i listened to bat 3 much (which i dont) it would usually get skipped.

24 Sep 2010, 02:01	#42
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,653	I really like the way the loudness works on modern recordings. To me, it makes all the instruments and voices clear and distinct with none of the "fuzziness" of eg bat 2. on hctb I do find that this makes the first 7 songs quite exhausting to listen to as everything is so in your face. But firstly, that to me is just part of what I like about the album and it suits both the songs and the story. Secondly, it makes me appreciate dyels all the more, for the contrast and the brief welcome respite before the rocking starts again.

24 Sep 2010, 02:42	#45
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	That's what I suspected. Explains why you complain about the "stupid lyrics" and "don't get why someone wrote a song about a crap car".

24 Sep 2010, 02:47	#46
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	about mercury blues, trying to make this related to 3 bats as possible, the 3 bats DVD version i can see why youd hate it. But i like it to the extent it should have been given a rest from 2007-2008. The writing is great! I mean you cant compare it to the writing in Steinman shit But its still excellent. mercury's weakest moment was on the 3 Bats DVD. I really think it was unnecessary.