Bat out of Hell IV: The Final at Bat - Page 2

Pudding · 18 May 2010, 00:45

Rather than a 4th Bat, I'd like Jim and Meat to do the 'Conclusions & Climaxes' EP thingy Jim was prattling on about a few years ago.

nikox1 · 18 May 2010, 00:53

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Rather than a 4th Bat, I'd like Jim and Meat to do the 'Conclusions & Climaxes' EP thingy Jim was prattling on about a few years ago.

well anything would be nice.

Wario · 18 May 2010, 03:09

agreeing with pudding, Id like a full Meat & Jim album that wasnt titled Bat out of hell.

Granted we did got Dead Ringer, but that doesn't count for obvious reasons...

Mabey "Safe Sex of the Renegade" or "God Has Left The Building"

youngJB · 18 May 2010, 04:33

If Jim and Meat reunite, it's gotta be called "Renegade Angel." Sure, it might turn out to be a completely different record than the canceled 1979 "Renegade Angel," but you can't just waste a great title like that. And also, I can't be the only one to like "Stark Raving Love". Hell, I like "Dance in my Pants" too.

Since Meat seems to be entering his Late Career Energetic Period, if Steinman's got something for him, now's the time.

Pudding · 18 May 2010, 06:07

Meat & Jim in the studio doing an acoustic album of old and some new songs

Julie in the rv mirror · 18 May 2010, 06:11

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Originally Posted by youngJB

If Jim and Meat reunite, it's gotta be called "Renegade Angel." Sure, it might turn out to be a completely different record than the canceled 1979 "Renegade Angel," but you can't just waste a great title like that.

No, you can't.

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Originally Posted by youngJB

And also, I can't be the only one to like "Stark Raving Love".

How can you not love a line like, "Too much is never enough" ?

TheDoode · 18 May 2010, 14:50

Think about this:

There may never be another Bat album. Like a lot of fans, Meat isn't happy with Bat 3. However, the vocals are great, the songs are mostly really good. It's just the production and vibe that makes it NOT a Bat album. So...

What if you could have a "As it was intended to be" version? A re-release, but a justifiable one. Steinman and Meat in the studio - taking each track apart and re-arranging and recording extra background vocals, orchestration, etc. A kind of definitive edition, a final edition, and a fitting end to the Bat legacy. A full on steinman sounding production.

With all new artwork.

I really think that album could f**king shine with a better vibe and a bigger, more coherent production.

Doode.

**Ankie** · 18 May 2010, 17:52

We'll never get to hear it, but I love to know what both Meat and Jim would add to this thread for themselves.

Not as in... what they write is going to happen..... just their thoughts too, like the previous posts in this thread.

PanicLord · 18 May 2010, 22:49

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Granted we did got Dead Ringer, but that doesn't count for obvious reasons...

Sorry... maybe I need coffee... what obvious reasons? I love Dead Ringer - got some of Meat and Jim's best songs imho.

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Rather than a 4th Bat, I'd like Jim and Meat to do the 'Conclusions & Climaxes' EP thingy Jim was prattling on about a few years ago.

That did sound very good, and Meat always talked about a "little piece of the jigsaw left to complete" around Bat 3. Jim must have had time to write it by now surely

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

No, you can't.

How can you not love a line like, "Too much is never enough" ?

Well, yes I like that line. But to me the song just descends into chaotic noise by the end.

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Originally Posted by TheDoode

Think about this:

There may never be another Bat album. Like a lot of fans, Meat isn't happy with Bat 3. However, the vocals are great, the songs are mostly really good. It's just the production and vibe that makes it NOT a Bat album. So...

What if you could have a "As it was intended to be" version? A re-release, but a justifiable one. Steinman and Meat in the studio - taking each track apart and re-arranging and recording extra background vocals, orchestration, etc. A kind of definitive edition, a final edition, and a fitting end to the Bat legacy. A full on steinman sounding production.

With all new artwork.

I really think that album could f**king shine with a better vibe and a bigger, more coherent production.

Doode.

Could be very good indeed. Essentially, just wheel in a maniacal pianist, a thunder machine, and a choir full of horny angels, and away you go. Great idea!

Julie in the rv mirror · 18 May 2010, 23:22

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Originally Posted by PanicLord

Well, yes I like that line. But to me the song just descends into chaotic noise by the end.

Surely you're not referring to Davey Johnstone's "Multiple Guitar Finale"?

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Originally Posted by Ankie

We'll never get to hear it, but I love to know what both Meat and Jim would add to this thread for themselves.

Not as in... what they write is going to happen..... just their thoughts too, like the previous posts in this thread.

If you listen to the interview I posted that's now in the HCTB section, Meat says a little something about his feelings...

PanicLord · 18 May 2010, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

Surely you're not referring to Davey Johnstone's "Multiple Guitar Finale"?

Lol - I suspect that's the one, yes.

Wario · 18 May 2010, 23:44

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Originally Posted by PanicLord

Sorry... maybe I need coffee... what obvious reasons? I love Dead Ringer - got some of Meat and Jim's best songs imho.

Yea but it doesnt count cause Jim had nothing to do with the album ....

Evil One · 19 May 2010, 00:06

Except write all the songs and arrange everything except guitar and vocals?

Wario · 19 May 2010, 01:05

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Except write all the songs and arrange everything except guitar and vocals?

Vickip · 19 May 2010, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

If you listen to the interview I posted that's now in the HCTB section, Meat says a little something about his feelings...

Yep

White of High · 19 May 2010, 03:46

Jim complained always that his name is with small letters on Bat. After this he had only a low budget album (BFG) under his name. What about this?

MEAT LOAF & JIM STEINMAN: Renegade Angels

With the name of Jim on the top. They are old, I think Meat can do one more album and not more (and no more concerts, please).

I want to hear big orchestra like in FCOL or KIATTTW.

What Part Of My Body Hearts The Most, Braver Than We Are, Death Is Such An Odd Thing...

I miss a great Jim & Meat song in 15 years!!!

Pudding · 19 May 2010, 04:13

Renegade Angel might have worked as some sort of title 30 years ago but not today

nikox1 · 19 May 2010, 04:38

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Renegade Angel might have worked as some sort of title 30 years ago but not today

Last Stand - The Bat Chronicals

Evil One · 19 May 2010, 12:46

Noooo, makes me think of the dreadful X-Men 3: The Last Stand.

nikox1 · 19 May 2010, 13:05

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Noooo, makes me think of the dreadful X-Men 3: The Last Stand.

what about? No Chance In Hell - Its Ever Gonna Happen

Evil One · 19 May 2010, 13:08

Better than The Last At Bat. I thought that was a terrible title.

nikox1 · 19 May 2010, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Better than The Last At Bat. I thought that was a terrible title.

true!!

lorenzoduke · 20 May 2010, 02:31

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Originally Posted by nikox1

true!!

Definitely - considering 'last at bat' means nothing outside of North America,

What I'd love to see, though it would never happen, would be for Meat to record a few Jim songs now to release in 10/15 years time.

**Monstro** · 20 May 2010, 02:50

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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke

What I'd love to see, though it would never happen, would be for Meat to record a few Jim songs now to release in 10/15 years time.

Bog off lol, I had a hard enough time waiting for HCTB, 10 to 15yrs????????

lorenzoduke · 20 May 2010, 02:57

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Originally Posted by Monstro

Bog off lol, I had a hard enough time waiting for HCTB, 10 to 15yrs????????

Put it this way - I think a 'Bat' project would draw a lot of derision at this point. Imagine the prospect of having that last EP of Jim/Meat songs post-retirement, as a true final blaze of glory.

18 May 2010, 00:45	#26
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Rather than a 4th Bat, I'd like Jim and Meat to do the 'Conclusions & Climaxes' EP thingy Jim was prattling on about a few years ago.

18 May 2010, 03:09	#28
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	agreeing with pudding, Id like a full Meat & Jim album that wasnt titled Bat out of hell. Granted we did got Dead Ringer, but that doesn't count for obvious reasons... Mabey "Safe Sex of the Renegade" or "God Has Left The Building"

18 May 2010, 04:33	#29
youngJB Senior Loafer Join Date: 05.12.2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 116	If Jim and Meat reunite, it's gotta be called "Renegade Angel." Sure, it might turn out to be a completely different record than the canceled 1979 "Renegade Angel," but you can't just waste a great title like that. And also, I can't be the only one to like "Stark Raving Love". Hell, I like "Dance in my Pants" too. Since Meat seems to be entering his Late Career Energetic Period, if Steinman's got something for him, now's the time.

18 May 2010, 06:07	#30
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Meat & Jim in the studio doing an acoustic album of old and some new songs

18 May 2010, 14:50	#32
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	Think about this: There may never be another Bat album. Like a lot of fans, Meat isn't happy with Bat 3. However, the vocals are great, the songs are mostly really good. It's just the production and vibe that makes it NOT a Bat album. So... What if you could have a "As it was intended to be" version? A re-release, but a justifiable one. Steinman and Meat in the studio - taking each track apart and re-arranging and recording extra background vocals, orchestration, etc. A kind of definitive edition, a final edition, and a fitting end to the Bat legacy. A full on steinman sounding production. With all new artwork. I really think that album could f**king shine with a better vibe and a bigger, more coherent production. Doode.

18 May 2010, 17:52	#33
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,884	We'll never get to hear it, but I love to know what both Meat and Jim would add to this thread for themselves. Not as in... what they write is going to happen..... just their thoughts too, like the previous posts in this thread.

19 May 2010, 00:06	#38
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Except write all the songs and arrange everything except guitar and vocals?

19 May 2010, 03:46	#41
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Jim complained always that his name is with small letters on Bat. After this he had only a low budget album (BFG) under his name. What about this? MEAT LOAF & JIM STEINMAN: Renegade Angels With the name of Jim on the top. They are old, I think Meat can do one more album and not more (and no more concerts, please). I want to hear big orchestra like in FCOL or KIATTTW. What Part Of My Body Hearts The Most, Braver Than We Are, Death Is Such An Odd Thing... I miss a great Jim & Meat song in 15 years!!!

19 May 2010, 04:13	#42
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Renegade Angel might have worked as some sort of title 30 years ago but not today

19 May 2010, 12:46	#44
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Noooo, makes me think of the dreadful X-Men 3: The Last Stand.

19 May 2010, 13:08	#46
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Better than The Last At Bat. I thought that was a terrible title.