meeting meat...

Feat Loaf · 04 Jan 2004, 02:01

i meet meat recently and i have to say i was let down big time. he can let you down with a look. i know hes been sick but hello it doesn't hurt to be friendly im glad i meet him but sometime the illusion is better

Tim · 04 Jan 2004, 02:11

that is too sad... but indeed....sometimes an illusion is better.

Feat Loaf · 04 Jan 2004, 02:20

hi tim, i'm new to this, i can't say meeting meat was all bad because it was an unexpected meeting, basically he wasn't supposed to be there

but he was. he kinda igonored me and the 2 people i was with, but to make up for it, i met the band and they were terrific, couldn't meet nicer people and i'll always remember that. so it wasn't all bad. i got his autograph and picture, it wasn't the extreme low of low, but as i said it was an unexpected meeting and i did make the most of it.

Mike Piercy · 04 Jan 2004, 12:28

I think we often expect Meat to be exactly like he is on stage and television. My impression the only time I met him (99 Tour) was of a quiet, shy and thoughtful man who was waiting for us to say something first. We are somewhat older and I imagine it's easier to play the role with a younger audience. Meat is a stage persona - he can't be Meat all the time.

Also the whole show stands or falls on him really. He often meets people before concerts and has to get his head together afterwards to do the show.

His health has not been good even before the collapse and therefore some allowance has to be made for that - serious medical problems this time, he has to take care and it must have been a shock to him.

Met Kasim in 2002 and he was terrific.

Mike

if you really want to know how much he thinks about the fans look at his rescheduling of the part-completed London show - not many people would do that. He deserves real recognition for that

rockfenris2005 · 04 Jan 2004, 12:54

I met him. He didn't expect that I would turn up (with an album he really hates). I think he's ok.

*AndyK* · 04 Jan 2004, 13:07

I've met him a couple of times - always after a concert rather than before, the first thing that struck e was how short he was (bear in mind I'm 6'3" here so I'm not saying he's a dwarf!) ... on stage and in interviews he's a larger than life character... in real life (frightening place that) he's less loud, less large, he struck me as incredibly humble, but with a wicked sense of humour and a genuine streak of kindness and care for his fans.

I'd love to spend some time with him to really talk to him, perhaps a round of golf would be an interesting time?

CarolM · 04 Jan 2004, 13:34

im not as fortunate to of met him YET

.But id love to im still hoping.

cant think what id say if i met him though.

sharon1248 · 04 Jan 2004, 14:03

I have to admit that I am curious what Meat is like off-stage. I have heard he is a sports fan & has taken up golfing. For someone as well-know as Meat is, there are very few interveiws etc where he is not in his Meat persona. Maybe the closest would be the Storytellers video, he was still Meat and yet seems at ease & relaxed between the songs. I certainly don't blame him for protecting his privacy. It must be rough to be a celebrity and maintain any kind of sane life. But I would love to hear more "meeting Meat" storys from people.

AndyNI · 04 Jan 2004, 14:19

Do you know that moany womon from Cork who kept bitching to the band about how they played too much guitar and didn't sing enough on the 15th?

Damn she was annoying.

rachelba · 04 Jan 2004, 19:36

I stood outside the Sheffield Arena in December hoping to see him before the sound check. I waited for 2 hours and was frozen!! When his car did arrive it had tinted windows so I'm not sure if I was smiling at the right spot.

The car drove through the gates and he got out about 50yds away. I was the only person there but he didn't come over - perhaps next time. (I'll have to wear a sign which says "Fan - please talk to me!! " - or maybe not!!)

rockfenris2005 · 07 Jan 2004, 05:52

I want to tell everyone about how I met Meat Loaf, but without the animosity I had in the past. It was at the HMV Studios in Melbourne on October 7. I asked the guys on duty if I could take one of the ad-posters as a souvenir - and if I could only get a scan of it, I'd show it to you guyz.
Anywayz, me and my mum went on Oct. 7. We bought three things for him to sign: his biography, the CHSIB cd and the 1978 edition of MEAT LOAF AND STONEY. We waited, about 2 hours in the line, and after long squabbling I decided to get my STONEY AND MEAT LOAF sign. Mum would be signing the TO HELL AND BACK biography. As we entered the store, I saw him in the distance, up on a high platform, and I totally crapped myself. I was sooo scared of meeting him. He was this humungous giant, just sitting up there, hunched over and laughing with the fans. I remember him being really funny - and really down-to-earth. He's amazing with his fans. He really makes an effort sometimes. Anywayz, it was finally my turn - and I put the album out in front of him. Mum seems to think he was joking around when he said: "I'm not signing this album" but I knew he was being serious. For all you people out there, don't get him to sign your STONEY AND MEAT LOAF albums. He does NOT like it one bit - and he told me that this was the only S&ML album he had signed (or, at least the edition with the plate-of-meatloaf on the front cover). He continually told me he would not sign the album, and he looked me straight in the eye and I was petrified. All the things that went through my head - it was so weird. Eventually, he signed the back of it. When it was my mum's turn to sign, and she's been a fan for 20 years (and relished her final chance of meeting him), he totally ignored her and continued his conversation with me. He signed her bio, then looked over to me - as security were trying to drag me away (I was holding up the line) - and I kept saying: "I'm Ryan. It's Ryan from ML... MLUKAFUKA... how do the hell do you pronounce him..." --- and he's like: "Pardon, I can't hear what you're saying". I must have repeated myself a million times, and the security guards kept splitting us up. All the while, mum was trying to get his attention. She soooooo wanted to speak with him after 20 years of being a fan. It was mum who actually got me into him. It was so sad that he didn't notice her, but she just laughs it off when I bring it up (that he ignored her). Anywayz, he eventually heard what I was saying: "It's Ryan, from Mlukfc. The guy who writes all the musicals", and he says: "Oh yeah... I know you... You said you'd be coming down". And I almost flipped. I was overwhelmed, despite the circumstances, that he remembered who I was. The security-guards grinned and said: "COme on, you. YOu've had enough!" and the de-toured us out the store. We walked back in, and I tried to get his attention from the sides, but dammit, either he was deaf in one ear - or he was just so far away. I later got real upset that he wouldn't sign my album, and I told him about it. We had this really big fight - on our PMs - but we had both seriously misjudged each other. I told him that he was the most inspirational thing in my life, and he is. Nobody, absolutely nobody, beats my Meat! We're on good terms now (I think) but I had to get rid of that STONEY AND MEAT LOAF album. Nohow, I still have my biography. So, there you have it. That's how I met him

Bart · 07 Jan 2004, 09:08

When i saw/met him backstage back in 1989 he was a quite, peaceful person. Not like the rocker on stage.

rockfenris2005 · 08 Jan 2004, 03:18

This topic isn't over!!!! Keep them stories rolling in...

rockfenris2005 · 08 Jan 2004, 03:19

R. can you make this sticky?

CarylB · 09 Jan 2004, 05:32

I've met Meat before and after shows. Off stage he comes across as quiet, a little shy, completely unassuming, kind and very gracious, and with a lovely sense of humour. He says he eschews celebrity status, and certainly doesn't act the star .. quite the reverse, patiently moving from one person to the next giving everyone some time. I found him a lovely person with a warm heart, a great sense of fun and a gentle soul :)

Jayd · 09 Jan 2004, 10:35

I have not met Meat as yet, but from the stories I have read from other people's experiences, I believe him to be a very nice and kind person, hopefully my day will come to meet him.

Bart · 09 Jan 2004, 10:38

He is nice but don't make him angry, then he can be really mean.

Lyrics: DIST

Jayd · 09 Jan 2004, 10:48

I believe every person can have their off days, it is natural and were only human, and I know Meat will have his off days too, and some person or persons are going to see him when he is down, but that don't make him a nasty person. This is not a debate post, only my opinion. Until the day I meet him I will never truly know, but it is nice to believe that he is a great person and I believe it fully. And to all you lucky people who have had the chance to meet him, well, I envy you.

Winston · 09 Jan 2004, 11:38

yeah your spot on there Jayd. Everyone can have their off days. I had an unexpected meeting with him. He didn't say anything at all. Well except hi! But he wasn't there to see me, but he did take the time to come over, so that was cool. But I was keeping my mouth shut this time

he looks so different off stage though.

CarylB · 09 Jan 2004, 11:58

Keep believing Jayd2 :) I've never heard anything that would make me feel that your faith was misplaced. I've seen Meat pushed to the point by someone who wouldn't take No for an answer where many people would have lost their temper .. he didn't .. just said "You don't understand" and moved on to the next person. Later he was as gracious as ever with the original person.

As to the lyrics from DIST Bart .. that's what they are .. lyrics .. not a psychological profile of ML Aday :) I know Meat says in his autobiography that he has a temper .. but I think you have to give him cause! He suffers quite a bit of crap before he explodes!! Treat him with courtesy and you get that back in spades imo .. b ugger him about and he might well have something to say

But he's more patient with groups of fans than many "stars".

Incidentally, I've met his daughter Amanda when she was gallantly pressing the flesh one night when Meat was not feeling well. I heard her asked some quite impertinent and intrusive questions, and she was as gracious as her father, deflecting them and moving on without a ripple in her good humour .. she's her father's daughter and a credit to him!

Bart · 09 Jan 2004, 13:44

O Really? DIST is not a little bit teenieweenie autobio? And he has not a temper? And afterwards he feels sorry? Well, read his comments here on this board.

and read the lyrics from DIST.

CarylB · 09 Jan 2004, 14:37

Bart I said:
I know Meat says in his autobiography that he has a temper .. but I think you have to give him cause! He suffers quite a bit of crap before he explodes!!
and I stand by that.

And no, I see no reason to suggest that DIST is autobiographical. Meat did not write the song, and frankly you can take pretty much any song and find a phrase or two that can be applied to the singer :)

Bart · 09 Jan 2004, 14:41

He did not write it. But he gave George Michael (

) a second hand on the songs, if that is correct English, you know, just the same way he wrote his book. Meat would be the last to say that this song is autobio. Cause he wants the listener projecting him/herself in the song.

CarylB · 09 Jan 2004, 14:52

Yes, and he might also be the last to say that because it isn't autobiographical Bart :) It's a song, and imo not a psychological profile.

You may think differently, that's your right. But I do not see it as such, and imo Meat only loses his temper when he has plenty of cause, and even then not every time. I have found him to be kind, patient, generous and gracious, and so have all the people I know who have met him. I see no reason to suggest he is some kind of touchy, temperamental star who loses his temper easily because he recorded DIST. And from interviews I've heard and read I thought his contribution to songs on the new album was to make suggestions like put in a longer bridge here, write new lines for this chorus .. ie making it more custmised to his style, ie like a Meat song than one written and recorded by other singers.

Bart · 09 Jan 2004, 15:07

He only lose temper when he has plenty of cause. Yeah right. So the Master himself has always right and doing nothing wrong. Well, i read the book when he had a fight with Jim about the mixing of Lemon and then he felt sorry afterwards. I read all those angry comments from him here and then he feels sorry afterwards. I read the lyrics from DIST and then i see Meat.

04 Jan 2004, 02:01	#1
Feat Loaf Rookie Join Date: 04.01.2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 3	meeting meat... i meet meat recently and i have to say i was let down big time. he can let you down with a look. i know hes been sick but hello it doesn't hurt to be friendly im glad i meet him but sometime the illusion is better

04 Jan 2004, 02:11	#2
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	that is too sad... but indeed....sometimes an illusion is better.

04 Jan 2004, 02:20	#3
Feat Loaf Rookie Join Date: 04.01.2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 3	hi tim, i'm new to this, i can't say meeting meat was all bad because it was an unexpected meeting, basically he wasn't supposed to be there but he was. he kinda igonored me and the 2 people i was with, but to make up for it, i met the band and they were terrific, couldn't meet nicer people and i'll always remember that. so it wasn't all bad. i got his autograph and picture, it wasn't the extreme low of low, but as i said it was an unexpected meeting and i did make the most of it.

04 Jan 2004, 12:28	#4
Mike Piercy cat out of hell Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: With the black cat where the rubber meets the road Posts: 618	I think we often expect Meat to be exactly like he is on stage and television. My impression the only time I met him (99 Tour) was of a quiet, shy and thoughtful man who was waiting for us to say something first. We are somewhat older and I imagine it's easier to play the role with a younger audience. Meat is a stage persona - he can't be Meat all the time. Also the whole show stands or falls on him really. He often meets people before concerts and has to get his head together afterwards to do the show. His health has not been good even before the collapse and therefore some allowance has to be made for that - serious medical problems this time, he has to take care and it must have been a shock to him. Met Kasim in 2002 and he was terrific. Mike if you really want to know how much he thinks about the fans look at his rescheduling of the part-completed London show - not many people would do that. He deserves real recognition for that

04 Jan 2004, 12:54	#5
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	I met him. He didn't expect that I would turn up (with an album he really hates). I think he's ok.

04 Jan 2004, 13:07	#6
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	I've met him a couple of times - always after a concert rather than before, the first thing that struck e was how short he was (bear in mind I'm 6'3" here so I'm not saying he's a dwarf!) ... on stage and in interviews he's a larger than life character... in real life (frightening place that) he's less loud, less large, he struck me as incredibly humble, but with a wicked sense of humour and a genuine streak of kindness and care for his fans. I'd love to spend some time with him to really talk to him, perhaps a round of golf would be an interesting time?

04 Jan 2004, 13:34	#7
CarolM Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2003 Location: Near The End Of The Line Posts: 1,498	im not as fortunate to of met him YET .But id love to im still hoping. cant think what id say if i met him though.

04 Jan 2004, 14:03	#8
sharon1248 Loafer Join Date: 10.11.2003 Location: Kansas, USA Posts: 77	I have to admit that I am curious what Meat is like off-stage. I have heard he is a sports fan & has taken up golfing. For someone as well-know as Meat is, there are very few interveiws etc where he is not in his Meat persona. Maybe the closest would be the Storytellers video, he was still Meat and yet seems at ease & relaxed between the songs. I certainly don't blame him for protecting his privacy. It must be rough to be a celebrity and maintain any kind of sane life. But I would love to hear more "meeting Meat" storys from people.

04 Jan 2004, 14:19	#9
AndyNI Loafer Join Date: 06.12.2003 Posts: 56	Do you know that moany womon from Cork who kept bitching to the band about how they played too much guitar and didn't sing enough on the 15th? Damn she was annoying.

04 Jan 2004, 19:36	#10
rachelba Senior Loafer Join Date: 15.11.2003 Location: Rotherham, South Yorks, England Posts: 195	I stood outside the Sheffield Arena in December hoping to see him before the sound check. I waited for 2 hours and was frozen!! When his car did arrive it had tinted windows so I'm not sure if I was smiling at the right spot. The car drove through the gates and he got out about 50yds away. I was the only person there but he didn't come over - perhaps next time. (I'll have to wear a sign which says "Fan - please talk to me!! " - or maybe not!!)

07 Jan 2004, 05:52	#11
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	I want to tell everyone about how I met Meat Loaf, but without the animosity I had in the past. It was at the HMV Studios in Melbourne on October 7. I asked the guys on duty if I could take one of the ad-posters as a souvenir - and if I could only get a scan of it, I'd show it to you guyz. Anywayz, me and my mum went on Oct. 7. We bought three things for him to sign: his biography, the CHSIB cd and the 1978 edition of MEAT LOAF AND STONEY. We waited, about 2 hours in the line, and after long squabbling I decided to get my STONEY AND MEAT LOAF sign. Mum would be signing the TO HELL AND BACK biography. As we entered the store, I saw him in the distance, up on a high platform, and I totally crapped myself. I was sooo scared of meeting him. He was this humungous giant, just sitting up there, hunched over and laughing with the fans. I remember him being really funny - and really down-to-earth. He's amazing with his fans. He really makes an effort sometimes. Anywayz, it was finally my turn - and I put the album out in front of him. Mum seems to think he was joking around when he said: "I'm not signing this album" but I knew he was being serious. For all you people out there, don't get him to sign your STONEY AND MEAT LOAF albums. He does NOT like it one bit - and he told me that this was the only S&ML album he had signed (or, at least the edition with the plate-of-meatloaf on the front cover). He continually told me he would not sign the album, and he looked me straight in the eye and I was petrified. All the things that went through my head - it was so weird. Eventually, he signed the back of it. When it was my mum's turn to sign, and she's been a fan for 20 years (and relished her final chance of meeting him), he totally ignored her and continued his conversation with me. He signed her bio, then looked over to me - as security were trying to drag me away (I was holding up the line) - and I kept saying: "I'm Ryan. It's Ryan from ML... MLUKAFUKA... how do the hell do you pronounce him..." --- and he's like: "Pardon, I can't hear what you're saying". I must have repeated myself a million times, and the security guards kept splitting us up. All the while, mum was trying to get his attention. She soooooo wanted to speak with him after 20 years of being a fan. It was mum who actually got me into him. It was so sad that he didn't notice her, but she just laughs it off when I bring it up (that he ignored her). Anywayz, he eventually heard what I was saying: "It's Ryan, from Mlukfc. The guy who writes all the musicals", and he says: "Oh yeah... I know you... You said you'd be coming down". And I almost flipped. I was overwhelmed, despite the circumstances, that he remembered who I was. The security-guards grinned and said: "COme on, you. YOu've had enough!" and the de-toured us out the store. We walked back in, and I tried to get his attention from the sides, but dammit, either he was deaf in one ear - or he was just so far away. I later got real upset that he wouldn't sign my album, and I told him about it. We had this really big fight - on our PMs - but we had both seriously misjudged each other. I told him that he was the most inspirational thing in my life, and he is. Nobody, absolutely nobody, beats my Meat! We're on good terms now (I think) but I had to get rid of that STONEY AND MEAT LOAF album. Nohow, I still have my biography. So, there you have it. That's how I met him

07 Jan 2004, 09:08	#12
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	When i saw/met him backstage back in 1989 he was a quite, peaceful person. Not like the rocker on stage.

08 Jan 2004, 03:18	#13
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	This topic isn't over!!!! Keep them stories rolling in...

08 Jan 2004, 03:19	#14
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	R. can you make this sticky?

09 Jan 2004, 05:32	#15
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	I've met Meat before and after shows. Off stage he comes across as quiet, a little shy, completely unassuming, kind and very gracious, and with a lovely sense of humour. He says he eschews celebrity status, and certainly doesn't act the star .. quite the reverse, patiently moving from one person to the next giving everyone some time. I found him a lovely person with a warm heart, a great sense of fun and a gentle soul :)

09 Jan 2004, 10:35	#16
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	I have not met Meat as yet, but from the stories I have read from other people's experiences, I believe him to be a very nice and kind person, hopefully my day will come to meet him.

09 Jan 2004, 10:38	#17
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	He is nice but don't make him angry, then he can be really mean. Lyrics: DIST

09 Jan 2004, 10:48	#18
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	I believe every person can have their off days, it is natural and were only human, and I know Meat will have his off days too, and some person or persons are going to see him when he is down, but that don't make him a nasty person. This is not a debate post, only my opinion. Until the day I meet him I will never truly know, but it is nice to believe that he is a great person and I believe it fully. And to all you lucky people who have had the chance to meet him, well, I envy you.

09 Jan 2004, 11:38	#19
Winston Super Loafer Join Date: 02.04.2003 Location: Lion's Den Posts: 745	yeah your spot on there Jayd. Everyone can have their off days. I had an unexpected meeting with him. He didn't say anything at all. Well except hi! But he wasn't there to see me, but he did take the time to come over, so that was cool. But I was keeping my mouth shut this time he looks so different off stage though.

09 Jan 2004, 11:58	#20
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Keep believing Jayd2 :) I've never heard anything that would make me feel that your faith was misplaced. I've seen Meat pushed to the point by someone who wouldn't take No for an answer where many people would have lost their temper .. he didn't .. just said "You don't understand" and moved on to the next person. Later he was as gracious as ever with the original person. As to the lyrics from DIST Bart .. that's what they are .. lyrics .. not a psychological profile of ML Aday :) I know Meat says in his autobiography that he has a temper .. but I think you have to give him cause! He suffers quite a bit of crap before he explodes!! Treat him with courtesy and you get that back in spades imo .. b ugger him about and he might well have something to say But he's more patient with groups of fans than many "stars". Incidentally, I've met his daughter Amanda when she was gallantly pressing the flesh one night when Meat was not feeling well. I heard her asked some quite impertinent and intrusive questions, and she was as gracious as her father, deflecting them and moving on without a ripple in her good humour .. she's her father's daughter and a credit to him!

09 Jan 2004, 13:44	#21
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	O Really? DIST is not a little bit teenieweenie autobio? And he has not a temper? And afterwards he feels sorry? Well, read his comments here on this board. and read the lyrics from DIST.

09 Jan 2004, 14:37	#22
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Bart I said: I know Meat says in his autobiography that he has a temper .. but I think you have to give him cause! He suffers quite a bit of crap before he explodes!! and I stand by that. And no, I see no reason to suggest that DIST is autobiographical. Meat did not write the song, and frankly you can take pretty much any song and find a phrase or two that can be applied to the singer :)

09 Jan 2004, 14:41	#23
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	He did not write it. But he gave George Michael ( ) a second hand on the songs, if that is correct English, you know, just the same way he wrote his book. Meat would be the last to say that this song is autobio. Cause he wants the listener projecting him/herself in the song.

09 Jan 2004, 14:52	#24
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Yes, and he might also be the last to say that because it isn't autobiographical Bart :) It's a song, and imo not a psychological profile. You may think differently, that's your right. But I do not see it as such, and imo Meat only loses his temper when he has plenty of cause, and even then not every time. I have found him to be kind, patient, generous and gracious, and so have all the people I know who have met him. I see no reason to suggest he is some kind of touchy, temperamental star who loses his temper easily because he recorded DIST. And from interviews I've heard and read I thought his contribution to songs on the new album was to make suggestions like put in a longer bridge here, write new lines for this chorus .. ie making it more custmised to his style, ie like a Meat song than one written and recorded by other singers.

09 Jan 2004, 15:07	#25
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	He only lose temper when he has plenty of cause. Yeah right. So the Master himself has always right and doing nothing wrong. Well, i read the book when he had a fight with Jim about the mixing of Lemon and then he felt sorry afterwards. I read all those angry comments from him here and then he feels sorry afterwards. I read the lyrics from DIST and then i see Meat.