Scott Ian Memoir

stretch37 · 18 Oct 2014, 22:07

A very cool excerpt...I know firsthand what divorce is like, after experiencing it happen to my own tight-knit family....Amazing to hear a little bit about Meat, Pearl and Scott's experience with some of the harsh outfall, but also some of the good/healing that can come out of it. Even if it does involve going a little crazy at times :P I must say, I would have loved to be at that show where he performed after 15 marguretas and still kicked a** lol.

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-...213315206.html

LucyK! · 18 Oct 2014, 22:39

Love this.

melon · 19 Oct 2014, 16:29

15? Nice.

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JennaG · 20 Oct 2014, 09:51

I'm not really liking this article all that much.

TheDoode · 20 Oct 2014, 10:33

Wow, that really doesn't paint Meat in the best light. I can't say I'm a fan of the excerpt over all, either; it reads like someone's blog.

LucyK! · 20 Oct 2014, 10:44

I like it - I think it's honest.

No it probably doesn't paint a brilliant picture of Meat, but he was going through one of the most difficult periods of his life and - at times - he probably wasn't the nicest person to be around. Happens to all of us.

I think Scott's account is honest, respectfully written and I'm sure has been put together with Meat and Pearl's blessing.

JennaG · 20 Oct 2014, 11:30

I just don't see how being portrayed as an angry drunk with the potential to be violent is a good thing?

Meat Loaf already gets people throwing accusations of being drunk on stage by some and this extract is hardly going to help matters.

LucyK! · 20 Oct 2014, 12:02

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Originally Posted by JennaG

I just don't see how being portrayed as an angry drunk with the potential to be violent is a good thing?

I think it's fair to portray him as angry, because he was.

With regards to alcohol, I think there's a difference between being "drunk" and being "a drunk". Scott recalls one occassion where Meat had a lot to drink but I don't think there's any implication that Meat was drinking heavily on a daily basis.

JennaG · 20 Oct 2014, 12:27

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Originally Posted by LucyK!

I think it's fair to portray him as angry, because he was.

I'm not suggesting that Meat Loaf wasn't angry, I'm just saying that being portrayed in that way is very rarely a good thing.

The extract refers to Meat Loaf threatening to punch Scott Ian's teeth down his throat. I'm sorry but that's not exactly a nice thing to be reading regardless of whether it's the truth.

renegadeangel · 20 Oct 2014, 12:28

Who cares
That is a glimpse into someone's private life which is no ones business

I was more impressed how he owned songs he didn't know the words to. That is more what he is all about

TheDoode · 20 Oct 2014, 12:36

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Originally Posted by JennaG

The extract refers to Meat Loaf threatening to punch Scott Ian's teeth down his throat. I'm sorry but that's not exactly a nice thing to be reading regardless of whether it's the truth.

Then - and with the best intentions in the world - don't read it? Otherwise, this is a non-issue. It was surprising to read at first, sure, but I guess as Lucy said it has been approved. OBVIOUSLY approved.

You'd imagine!

chairboys · 20 Oct 2014, 12:39

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Originally Posted by renegadeangel

I was more impressed how he owned songs he didn't know the words to.

makes you wonder what he was actually singing!
like you, this is what sticks in my mind.
oh, and maybe...no, I won't go there.

JennaG · 20 Oct 2014, 12:55

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Originally Posted by renegadeangel

Who cares
That is a glimpse into someone's private life which is no ones business.

Actually by publishing a book on the subject, Scott Ian has made it people's business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Then - and with the best intentions in the world - don't read it? Otherwise, this is a non-issue. It was surprising to read at first, sure, but I guess as Lucy said it has been approved. OBVIOUSLY approved.

You'd imagine!

The original post only refers to the fact that things get a little crazy and had I have known more then I probably wouldn't have read it. I won't be reading any more of Scott Ian's memoirs.

TheDoode · 20 Oct 2014, 13:03

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Originally Posted by JennaG

Actually by publishing a book on the subject, Scott Ian has made it people's business.

The original post only refers to the fact that things get a little crazy and had I have known more then I probably wouldn't have read it. I won't be reading any more of Scott Ian's memoirs.

I don't think that you can blame other people for your actions though Jenna? It was your choice to read it. The only way around it that I can think of is by the publisher issuing a 'Meat Loaf Sensitive' warning! And that's not going to happen!

JennaG · 20 Oct 2014, 13:14

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Originally Posted by TheDoode

I don't think that you can blame other people for your actions though Jenna? It was your choice to read it. The only way around it that I can think of is by the publisher issuing a 'Meat Loaf Sensitive' warning! And that's not going to happen!

I'm not referring to the book, I'm referring to the extract in the link that was posted on this forum.

I'm not blaming anyone for my having read the wretched article or denying that it was my choice to click the link. I did however say that the member who brought the thing to this forum mentioned nothing about Meat Loaf's behaviour other than things got a little crazy (which is rather vague) to suggest that people might not want to read the article.

TheDoode · 20 Oct 2014, 13:20

Bottom line: it was your choice to click the link. Other people do not owe you a detailed review of what you're about to read before you decide to read it. To moan about this is quite ridiculous. But what do I know

Either way - let's move on.

Wario · 20 Oct 2014, 16:42

Wow his entire experience with meat is exactly what mlukfc's experience with Meat is:

He gets mad, may rage, will come back like nothing happened.... but in the end he loves us

TheDoode · 20 Oct 2014, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Wario

He gets mad, may rage, will come back like nothing happened.... but in the end he loves us

Is it just me that pictures a 50's 'housewife' when I read this?

tonyloaf · 20 Oct 2014, 17:51

Have to say I'd like to see Meat sing after 16 drinks , what a legand!

Sebastian. · 20 Oct 2014, 18:47

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Originally Posted by tonyloaf

Have to say I'd like to see Meat sing after 16 drinks , what a legand!

You should see me sing after 16 drinks.

loaferman61 · 20 Oct 2014, 20:48

It is what seems to be a genuine reflection of someone where people can't say he is not in a position to know so for some that may create an issue. It sure shoots sown a defense mechanism.

Meat Loaf is not Jesus or Ghandi or anyone of the sort.

The drinking thing has been mentioned by other people who would know in their interviews but I seem to be the only one that read the article so I never brought it up here. The person said this in a published article but I'm not throwing them to the wolves on here.

People keep swearing they don't worship Meat then proceed to write as though they do - not anyone in this thread mind you.. Everyone at some point has their tough times and indulge in a few drinks - the man is human. The fact that he has his moods and angry rants should not surprise anyone on here of all places.

IMO everyone needs to cut both Scott and Meat a break. Take this account as it is. Nothing in it was overly surprising to me whatsoever.

tonyloaf · 20 Oct 2014, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian.

You should see me sing after 16 drinks.

I've seen you sober and that's enough

stretch37 · 21 Oct 2014, 03:18

I think it was a great article. For anyone whose parents or themselves have gone through a divorce and seen how it effects the divorcees, it is important to understand that the stress of being with someone when you know you have tried your damnedest for 10 or 20 odd years but it isn't working, you become different people whilst at the very end of it. You are not yourself - and why should you be? You are going through one of the worst times of your life. It is a window into Meat's resiliance if anything, despite being in one of the toughest times of his life, with his long relationship with Leslie coming to an end, he could see Scott's awesomeness and he could see through his own difficulties enough to apologize and put effort into a friendship with him. It is also a tribute to Leslie's strength - the friendliness towards Scott and her warmth when inside she must have felt like hell. These are two amazing people who are dealing with grief in their own way.

The article gives me even greater respect and love for Meat (and of course, everyone else involved). Everyone gets angry - there is nothing wrong with anger, it is just an emotion, and a healthy one at that! Given the circumstances, I am sure everyone was angry at someone during a very, very trying time for the family.

NightAngel · 21 Oct 2014, 06:08

I saw this elsewhere and was a little taken aback at the article. My response to where I saw it was that it reminded me of a protective dad.. mine was very much so and sons in laws had similar- i took it as a dad protective thing - I can see how it is the protective dad thing..

In terms of the article and the things written on Meat-I am hoping Meat knew what was being written and approved it. I read above it was approved... as open as I am with my family stuff and I am- there are some things that I personally will never say in public. But if it is approved then so be it.

As to a choice in clicking on the link... If there is something posted re Meat- i am clicking and reading. I would not be able to NOT look and read.

melon · 21 Oct 2014, 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian.

You should see me sing after 16 drinks.

And me ha ha... I may buy this book.

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18 Oct 2014, 22:07	#1
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,119	Scott Ian Memoir A very cool excerpt...I know firsthand what divorce is like, after experiencing it happen to my own tight-knit family....Amazing to hear a little bit about Meat, Pearl and Scott's experience with some of the harsh outfall, but also some of the good/healing that can come out of it. Even if it does involve going a little crazy at times :P I must say, I would have loved to be at that show where he performed after 15 marguretas and still kicked a** lol. https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-...213315206.html

18 Oct 2014, 22:39	#2
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Love this.

19 Oct 2014, 16:29	#3
melon Long Distance Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 4,586	15? Nice. Sent from my GT-I9197 using Forum Runner

20 Oct 2014, 09:51	#4
JennaG Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.02.2010 Location: Posts: 1,934	I'm not really liking this article all that much.

20 Oct 2014, 10:33	#5
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	Wow, that really doesn't paint Meat in the best light. I can't say I'm a fan of the excerpt over all, either; it reads like someone's blog.

20 Oct 2014, 10:44	#6
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I like it - I think it's honest. No it probably doesn't paint a brilliant picture of Meat, but he was going through one of the most difficult periods of his life and - at times - he probably wasn't the nicest person to be around. Happens to all of us. I think Scott's account is honest, respectfully written and I'm sure has been put together with Meat and Pearl's blessing.

20 Oct 2014, 11:30	#7
JennaG Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.02.2010 Location: Posts: 1,934	I just don't see how being portrayed as an angry drunk with the potential to be violent is a good thing? Meat Loaf already gets people throwing accusations of being drunk on stage by some and this extract is hardly going to help matters.

20 Oct 2014, 12:28	#10
renegadeangel Super Loafer Join Date: 18.05.2006 Posts: 604	Who cares That is a glimpse into someone's private life which is no ones business I was more impressed how he owned songs he didn't know the words to. That is more what he is all about

20 Oct 2014, 13:20	#16
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	Bottom line: it was your choice to click the link. Other people do not owe you a detailed review of what you're about to read before you decide to read it. To moan about this is quite ridiculous. But what do I know Either way - let's move on.

20 Oct 2014, 16:42	#17
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Wow his entire experience with meat is exactly what mlukfc's experience with Meat is: He gets mad, may rage, will come back like nothing happened.... but in the end he loves us

20 Oct 2014, 17:51	#19
tonyloaf Metal Head Join Date: 15.05.2006 Location: Brighton Posts: 2,398	Have to say I'd like to see Meat sing after 16 drinks , what a legand!

20 Oct 2014, 20:48	#21
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	It is what seems to be a genuine reflection of someone where people can't say he is not in a position to know so for some that may create an issue. It sure shoots sown a defense mechanism. Meat Loaf is not Jesus or Ghandi or anyone of the sort. The drinking thing has been mentioned by other people who would know in their interviews but I seem to be the only one that read the article so I never brought it up here. The person said this in a published article but I'm not throwing them to the wolves on here. People keep swearing they don't worship Meat then proceed to write as though they do - not anyone in this thread mind you.. Everyone at some point has their tough times and indulge in a few drinks - the man is human. The fact that he has his moods and angry rants should not surprise anyone on here of all places. IMO everyone needs to cut both Scott and Meat a break. Take this account as it is. Nothing in it was overly surprising to me whatsoever.

21 Oct 2014, 03:18	#23
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,119	I think it was a great article. For anyone whose parents or themselves have gone through a divorce and seen how it effects the divorcees, it is important to understand that the stress of being with someone when you know you have tried your damnedest for 10 or 20 odd years but it isn't working, you become different people whilst at the very end of it. You are not yourself - and why should you be? You are going through one of the worst times of your life. It is a window into Meat's resiliance if anything, despite being in one of the toughest times of his life, with his long relationship with Leslie coming to an end, he could see Scott's awesomeness and he could see through his own difficulties enough to apologize and put effort into a friendship with him. It is also a tribute to Leslie's strength - the friendliness towards Scott and her warmth when inside she must have felt like hell. These are two amazing people who are dealing with grief in their own way. The article gives me even greater respect and love for Meat (and of course, everyone else involved). Everyone gets angry - there is nothing wrong with anger, it is just an emotion, and a healthy one at that! Given the circumstances, I am sure everyone was angry at someone during a very, very trying time for the family.

21 Oct 2014, 06:08	#24
NightAngel Loafer Join Date: 13.04.2014 Location: Sydney Posts: 94	I saw this elsewhere and was a little taken aback at the article. My response to where I saw it was that it reminded me of a protective dad.. mine was very much so and sons in laws had similar- i took it as a dad protective thing - I can see how it is the protective dad thing.. In terms of the article and the things written on Meat-I am hoping Meat knew what was being written and approved it. I read above it was approved... as open as I am with my family stuff and I am- there are some things that I personally will never say in public. But if it is approved then so be it. As to a choice in clicking on the link... If there is something posted re Meat- i am clicking and reading. I would not be able to NOT look and read.