How do we submit songs for Meat's consideration?

uksongwriter · 14 Nov 2012, 11:08

Hi everyone

I'm a forum newbie! I am a mid-morning radio show presenter but also spent many years as a record producer, including a stint as in-house producer at Gary Numan's Rock City Studios. I also have my own TV chat show on one of the 'lesser' Sky channels lol!

I am a published songwriter and keep being told that a couple of my songs would be 'ideal for Meat Loaf' and wondered if anyone can tell me the best way to get the tracks to him to have a listen to?

As a big Meat fan, I also hope to catch him in 2013 on tour in the UK.

Ross Hemsworth
P.S. A few years ago I had CC Coletti as my guest on one of my radio shows, someone who spent many years touring with Meat as a backing vocalist!

White of High · 14 Nov 2012, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

P.S. A few years ago I had CC Coletti as my guest on one of my radio shows, someone who spent many years touring with Meat as a backing vocalist!

Than I think you have a great contact to him.

uksongwriter · 14 Nov 2012, 17:33

Apparently CC is not working with Meat at the moment

Vickip · 14 Nov 2012, 17:49

Hi Ross

Welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately CC is no longer with the band

The only thing I can suggest is that you try contacting Meat via PM either on here (Fireball) or on his FB page.

Good luck.
Vicki

Evil Ernie · 14 Nov 2012, 18:54

This is like getting your demo played on the radio. It's not as simple as PM'ing him or Facebooking him. He probably gets stuff like this all the time.

He most likely has someone who listens to them first and then filters them down to ML, who then decides. This is all speculation.

I would suggest getting a talent agency to distribute your music. If you want JUST ML to record, than it'll be harder. Put it out there for everybody.

Also, a demo would be suggested. Since ML doesn't know anything about music (by his own admission) it's not like he would just go to the piano and sight read it, he would need to get someone to perform it for him. That's something that would be a long shot for an unproven song writer.

uksongwriter · 14 Nov 2012, 20:16

Hi Evil

Thanks for the advice, but as someone who spent several years producing at top studios, including Gary Numan's Rock city recording studio, and as a published songwriter, I do have a little bit of experience in the game lol!

The songs are up at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth and the track that several people have identified as a possible for Meat Loaf, is 'ROCKSTEADY'. But please bear in mind that many of the demo's posted have my crappy voice on them

So Meat, if you happen to read this and have a few spare minutes, please pop over and have a listen!

Cheers

Ross

CarylB · 14 Nov 2012, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Evil Ernie

It's not as simple as PM'ing him or Facebooking him.

Yes.

For a published songwriter with experience, wouldn't his management company be the logical route? I've seen Meat's reaction when someone tried to push a CD into his hands

Polite, but not prepared to accept it.

TheDoode · 14 Nov 2012, 21:00

I would say, if you want a more direct route than approaching his management, send the link to Paul (meat's current producer/guitarist) - MetalLoaf on this forum - who might take a listen if he has a few mins.

uksongwriter · 14 Nov 2012, 21:16

Yes, I didn't have a contact at the management company, and most managers and label A & R's won't accept unsolicited material, so getting a new song to an artist is a lot more difficult than it once was.

Thanks for the tip re his producer/guitarist.

Ross

**The Flying Mouse** · 14 Nov 2012, 23:06

Hi Ross, welcome to the forum

As The Doode says, Paul (Metal Loaf) is Meat's guitarist, and produced Meat's last album.
If you are serious about having a song considered for Meat Loaf, he could well be worth a try.
I have no idea how Paul feels about people submitting their songs too him, but he's a very nice guy, and i'd say the very least you could expect is a polite refusal, and perhaps redirection to where you should send your song for submittion.

Good luck

uksongwriter · 15 Nov 2012, 01:11

Cheers for this. I have now managed to send a PM to Metal Loaf, much appreciated.

Thanks for all your help people :)

Ross

Sebastian. · 15 Nov 2012, 01:24

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Originally Posted by uksongwriter

Cheers for this. Did try sending him a private message but his account doesn't seem to accepts PM's, either that or I'm doing something wrong lol!

Thanks for all your help people :)

Ross

They certainly can receive PM's, especially Meat!

Paul:

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=216

Meat:

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=189

Evil Ernie · 15 Nov 2012, 02:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

Hi Evil

Thanks for the advice, but as someone who spent several years producing at top studios, including Gary Numan's Rock city recording studio, and as a published songwriter, I do have a little bit of experience in the game lol!

The songs are up at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth and the track that several people have identified as a possible for Meat Loaf, is 'ROCKSTEADY'. But please bear in mind that many of the demo's posted have my crappy voice on them

So Meat, if you happen to read this and have a few spare minutes, please pop over and have a listen!

Cheers

Ross

I guess I didn't read your post carefully enough.

However, as a veteran of the music industry you should know how to get these songs out there. An internet fan forum isn't the way for the advise.

Great name drop BTW.... never heard of it.

uksongwriter · 15 Nov 2012, 13:08

Hi Ernie

As I had said earlier, it is more difficult to use the old traditional submission routes these days as they don't accept 'unsolicited material' so i came on here to ask if anyone knew of other ways to submit. To that end, I have have been given some useful advice.

Cheers
Ross

RSG · 15 Nov 2012, 22:49

Songwriting can be a enjoyable time! My cous'n and I have a few of our own. One in particular, not a lot of lyrics, but I imagine hearing Meat & Co. playing. Another Cous'n says the same. I'm not sure why this is, but one of the lines '...there's always magic' may be why, haha

*whistles RnR Dreams Come Through*

Cheers
Anthony

uksongwriter · 17 Nov 2012, 23:46

Just had a lovely compliment from a Nashville country artiste Joy Collins, who says that my latest composition, recorded today with session singer Melanie Martin, reminds her of Pat Benetar. As a fan of Pat's (as well as Meat Loaf) I'm well chuffed! :)

If anyone is interested in having a listen, it's called Temptation Road and is online at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth

Ross

**The Flying Mouse** · 20 Nov 2012, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

Just had a lovely compliment from a Nashville country artiste Joy Collins, who says that my latest composition, recorded today with session singer Melanie Martin, reminds her of Pat Benetar. As a fan of Pat's (as well as Meat Loaf) I'm well chuffed! :)

If anyone is interested in having a listen, it's called Temptation Road and is online at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth

Ross

No offence, but this thread was concerning how to submit a song for Meat's consideration.
You've been given advice on that.

If you want to shamelessly plug your work, do it in the forum section Other Rock & Roll Heroes rather than here in General Messages

Evil Ernie · 21 Nov 2012, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

Just had a lovely compliment from a Nashville country artiste Joy Collins, who says that my latest composition, recorded today with session singer Melanie Martin, reminds her of Pat Benetar. As a fan of Pat's (as well as Meat Loaf) I'm well chuffed! :)

If anyone is interested in having a listen, it's called Temptation Road and is online at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth

Ross

If you're gonna drop names... choose better names.

uksongwriter · 22 Nov 2012, 01:20

And there was me thinking this was a friendly forum. Goodbye all!

nikox1 · 22 Nov 2012, 03:35

Friendly???

olblueeyes · 22 Nov 2012, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

And there was me thinking this was a friendly forum. Goodbye all!

Given the presence here of an 'armed ba$tard' and another with 'Evil' in their name, I think the relatively gentle ribbing given here was pretty friendly.

Plus, you should never name drop - people don't like it. Mick Jagger taught me that.

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**The Flying Mouse** · 23 Nov 2012, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

And there was me thinking this was a friendly forum. Goodbye all!

Sorry the "no offence" and the wink smilie were not enough for you

As for telling you to promote your work in Other Rock & Roll Heroes, we have a lot of music makers here on the forum, and the place for them to talk about their work (as well as the work of well known artists) is in that forum.

General Messages is the place to discuss Meat.
I've no problem with you asking how to submit a song to Meat, but the thread should not become a running commentery on your own projects on the most high profile forum on the board

All but one of your posts have been on this thread, talking about your own career in what is supposed to be the main Meat Load discussion area of the forum. That's going a little beyond self promotion and heading into spam country.

If you can't respect a request asking you to talk about your work in the correct forum from a site mod...........

Quote:

Originally Posted by olblueeyes

Given the presence here of an 'armed ba$tard' and another with 'Evil' in their name, I think the relatively gentle ribbing given here was pretty friendly.

Just in case you've never seen the TV show, the quote "armed ba$tard" and the quote in my sig about the year and dinner plans are from Gene Hunt from Life On Mars. He's also the pic in my avatar

Quote:

Originally Posted by olblueeyes

Plus, you should never name drop - people don't like it. Mick Jagger taught me that.

I like that one

olblueeyes · 24 Nov 2012, 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Just in case you've never seen the TV show, the quote "armed ba$tard" and the quote in my sig about the year and dinner plans are from Gene Hunt from Life On Mars. He's also the pic in my avatar

:

Yes I knew where it was from - the genius of Mr Hunt. "1973, dinner time - I'm 'avin 'oops". :)

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AndrewG · 24 Nov 2012, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by uksongwriter

And there was me thinking this was a friendly forum. Goodbye all!

Goodbye. If you can't take criticism I don't think you are cut out for the music industry.

14 Nov 2012, 11:08	#1
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	How do we submit songs for Meat's consideration? Hi everyone I'm a forum newbie! I am a mid-morning radio show presenter but also spent many years as a record producer, including a stint as in-house producer at Gary Numan's Rock City Studios. I also have my own TV chat show on one of the 'lesser' Sky channels lol! I am a published songwriter and keep being told that a couple of my songs would be 'ideal for Meat Loaf' and wondered if anyone can tell me the best way to get the tracks to him to have a listen to? As a big Meat fan, I also hope to catch him in 2013 on tour in the UK. Ross Hemsworth P.S. A few years ago I had CC Coletti as my guest on one of my radio shows, someone who spent many years touring with Meat as a backing vocalist!

15 Nov 2012, 01:11	#11
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	Cheers for this. I have now managed to send a PM to Metal Loaf, much appreciated. Thanks for all your help people :) Ross Last edited by uksongwriter; 15 Nov 2012 at 01:24. Reason: Changed format

14 Nov 2012, 17:33	#3
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	Apparently CC is not working with Meat at the moment

14 Nov 2012, 17:49	#4
Vickip Mega Loafer Join Date: 07.02.2003 Location: Posts: 8,101	Hi Ross Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately CC is no longer with the band The only thing I can suggest is that you try contacting Meat via PM either on here (Fireball) or on his FB page. Good luck. Vicki

14 Nov 2012, 18:54	#5
Evil Ernie Super Loafer Join Date: 03.06.2011 Posts: 667	This is like getting your demo played on the radio. It's not as simple as PM'ing him or Facebooking him. He probably gets stuff like this all the time. He most likely has someone who listens to them first and then filters them down to ML, who then decides. This is all speculation. I would suggest getting a talent agency to distribute your music. If you want JUST ML to record, than it'll be harder. Put it out there for everybody. Also, a demo would be suggested. Since ML doesn't know anything about music (by his own admission) it's not like he would just go to the piano and sight read it, he would need to get someone to perform it for him. That's something that would be a long shot for an unproven song writer.

14 Nov 2012, 20:16	#6
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	Hi Evil Thanks for the advice, but as someone who spent several years producing at top studios, including Gary Numan's Rock city recording studio, and as a published songwriter, I do have a little bit of experience in the game lol! The songs are up at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth and the track that several people have identified as a possible for Meat Loaf, is 'ROCKSTEADY'. But please bear in mind that many of the demo's posted have my crappy voice on them So Meat, if you happen to read this and have a few spare minutes, please pop over and have a listen! Cheers Ross

14 Nov 2012, 21:00	#8
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	I would say, if you want a more direct route than approaching his management, send the link to Paul (meat's current producer/guitarist) - MetalLoaf on this forum - who might take a listen if he has a few mins.

14 Nov 2012, 21:16	#9
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	Yes, I didn't have a contact at the management company, and most managers and label A & R's won't accept unsolicited material, so getting a new song to an artist is a lot more difficult than it once was. Thanks for the tip re his producer/guitarist. Ross

14 Nov 2012, 23:06	#10
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Hi Ross, welcome to the forum As The Doode says, Paul (Metal Loaf) is Meat's guitarist, and produced Meat's last album. If you are serious about having a song considered for Meat Loaf, he could well be worth a try. I have no idea how Paul feels about people submitting their songs too him, but he's a very nice guy, and i'd say the very least you could expect is a polite refusal, and perhaps redirection to where you should send your song for submittion. Good luck

15 Nov 2012, 13:08	#14
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	Hi Ernie As I had said earlier, it is more difficult to use the old traditional submission routes these days as they don't accept 'unsolicited material' so i came on here to ask if anyone knew of other ways to submit. To that end, I have have been given some useful advice. Cheers Ross

15 Nov 2012, 22:49	#15
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	Songwriting can be a enjoyable time! My cous'n and I have a few of our own. One in particular, not a lot of lyrics, but I imagine hearing Meat & Co. playing. Another Cous'n says the same. I'm not sure why this is, but one of the lines '...there's always magic' may be why, haha whistles RnR Dreams Come Through Cheers Anthony

17 Nov 2012, 23:46	#16
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	Just had a lovely compliment from a Nashville country artiste Joy Collins, who says that my latest composition, recorded today with session singer Melanie Martin, reminds her of Pat Benetar. As a fan of Pat's (as well as Meat Loaf) I'm well chuffed! :) If anyone is interested in having a listen, it's called Temptation Road and is online at www.reverbnation.com/rosshemsworth Ross

22 Nov 2012, 01:20	#19
uksongwriter Rookie Join Date: 14.11.2012 Location: Glastonbury Posts: 9	And there was me thinking this was a friendly forum. Goodbye all!

22 Nov 2012, 03:35	#20
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	Friendly???