Concert-One

Evil One · 07 Oct 2012, 16:40

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If you would like access to special Meatloaf ‘The Guilty Pleasure’ Concert videos and downloads before they go public, please provide us with your Name and Email address below

What exactly was the point of providing my name and email address? As far as I can tell I got precisely nothing from this deal.

**Monstro** · 07 Oct 2012, 17:27

They did get your name and email, worked for them lol

RSG · 09 Oct 2012, 20:50

"Meatloaf Guilty Pleasure concert videos and downloads?"

The world must be going to hell in a handbasket because if there are concerts for what sounds like a cookbook tour for meatloaf this is new to me! I may just actually check it out if a concert is around my local area. Actually this thread makes me consider cooking a potato and meatloaf supper sometime this month!

RSG · 09 Oct 2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by RSG

"Meatloaf Guilty Pleasure concert videos and downloads?"

The world must be going to hell in a handbasket because if there are concerts for what sounds like a cookbook tour for meatloaf this is new to me! I may just actually check it out if a concert is around my local area. Actually this thread makes me consider cooking a potato and meatloaf supper sometime this month!

I wonder if a 'meat patty' was the first set before the actual Meatloaf show that night.

Wario · 09 Oct 2012, 20:56

They are a shit company. SHIT. they are the reason we have no mercury blues. They made a complete shit documentary. Horribly edited. Horrible audio. Horrible quality production. Meat and paul made the DVD what it is. If this was left unmastered like 3 Bats Live itd be shit.

Sarge · 10 Oct 2012, 18:23

Wario, you talk as if you were present during production.

I'm a bit sceptical of that kind of judging and blaming presumed mistakes on people. I haven't seen any official statement as to who made decisions on what and who is responsible for alleged flaws, please enlighten me.

Sebastian. · 10 Oct 2012, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Wario

They are a shit company. SHIT.

You should fly Ryanair!

loaferman61 · 10 Oct 2012, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Wario

They are a shit company. SHIT. they are the reason we have no mercury blues. They made a complete shit documentary. Horribly edited. Horrible audio. Horrible quality production. Meat and paul made the DVD what it is. If this was left unmastered like 3 Bats Live itd be shit.

I don't know who pressed the discs but my copy had audio glitches starting around 30 minutes in and then the picture starting freezing and skipping at around the one hour mark. This causes it to make awful noises in the dvd player. Does it on both my blu-ray players, have not tried on a PC yet but no way I'm watching 2 hours on a PC. At least I got to watch it.

Wario · 10 Oct 2012, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Wario, you talk as if you were present during production.

I'm a bit sceptical of that kind of judging and blaming presumed mistakes on people. I haven't seen any official statement as to who made decisions on what and who is responsible for alleged flaws, please enlighten me.

Meat has stated the company screwed up the recording of mercury blues and they had a problem that caused the delay. On top of that concert one made a shit-ass documentary

Meat and paul made the DVD as kickass as it is.

Sarge · 10 Oct 2012, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Wario

Meat has stated the company screwed up the recording of mercury blues

Where did he say that? I think I missed it.

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Originally Posted by Wario

and they had a problem that caused the delay.

As far as I recall, he didn't say what exactly caused that problem and if it was really their fault.

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Originally Posted by Wario

On top of that concert one made a shit-ass documentary

I think I have to repeat myself:

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Originally Posted by Sarge

I haven't seen any official statement as to who made decisions on what and who is responsible for alleged flaws, please enlighten me.

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Originally Posted by Wario

Meat and paul made the DVD as kickass as it is.

I have to repeat myself again:

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Wario, you talk as if you were present during production.

Were you? Do you actually know or do you just assume?

Wario · 10 Oct 2012, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Where did he say that? I think I missed it.

As far as I recall, he didn't say what exactly caused that problem and if it was really their fault.

Were you? Do you actually know or do you just assume?

I dont assume anything.

Paul mixed and produced the entire show, which is stunning. and is what makes the DVD as great as it is.

regarding Concert One, Meat has stated (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=573441):

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

I am still editing. There was a a problem with the CO. that had produced the DVD. That was the delay.
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I came to my conclusions logically. Concert One produced the documentary as well and its edited and sound is shit.

Dave · 10 Oct 2012, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Wario

On top of that concert one made a shit-ass documentary

Wrong. It is a documentary about the technical aspects of putting together a Meat Loaf show - not a documentary about Meat Loaf. I found it to be quite enlightening. Just because the content does not suit you, does not mean it is "shit-ass" really. It is just not what you wanted.

wizardofodd · 10 Oct 2012, 23:55

If Meat literally edited the show, choosing shot by shot all I am going to say is- he has another career prospect down the line. The edit is first class.

CarylB · 11 Oct 2012, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Wario

They are a shit company. SHIT. they are the reason we have no mercury blues. They made a complete shit documentary. Horribly edited. Horrible audio. Horrible quality production. Meat and paul made the DVD what it is. If this was left unmastered like 3 Bats Live itd be shit.

Meat saying "There was a a problem with the CO. that had produced the DVD." does not justify making the sweeping statement you have made.

You might reflect that whatever the problems were Meat merely said "There were problems". If you really seek to make your future in the music/video production industry you might look at Meat and learn! It's all about networking and building relationships, not slagging off companies in fits of anger .. and I doubt Meat would want you using his comment as a vehicle for making the swinging judgements you have done here Chris.

I agree with Dave, that just because the documentary was not to your liking in terms of content does not make it "shit ass"

It's interesting and gives an interesting perspective on what it takes.

Sarge · 11 Oct 2012, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Wario

I dont assume anything.

Yes, you do. And you make rather rude comments, in my opinion. It's okay to dislike something but it's not okay to insult people.

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Originally Posted by Wario

Paul mixed and produced the entire show

You really talk as if you were sitting next to him when he did.

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Originally Posted by Wario

regarding Concert One, Meat has stated (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=573441):

Again, there's no statement regarding to what exactly the problem was and who/what caused it. So far, I don't know what was going on behind the scenes and I think you don't know either.

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Originally Posted by Wario

Concert One produced the documentary as well and its edited and sound is shit.

So you imply they just did as they pleased? With no guidelines or interference from others? Usually there are concepts, contracts, demands, requests, agreements and some kind of supervision, communication, consent, disconsent, suggestions for improvement, etc. among the involved parties before a product hits the shelves. At least that's my "logical", maybe old-fashioned concept of dealing with projects like this. If the documentary was really "shit-ass", it wouldn't have been released or reworked before release, I guess.

Wario · 11 Oct 2012, 02:26

this is supposed to be a professional DVD and the Documentary was horrible! Its was enlightening, yes, but it was terribly produced and mediocre. they used CAMERA AUDIO and it peaked, there were black frames, and it looked like a documentary made in a class of mine.

at the start it says "Concert One presents". some shots are a tad pixelated, the audio which Paul has stated he mixed the entire show is the DVD's saving grace. The company is utter shit.

Theres nothing im assuming that isnt illogical. The documentary just comes off something slapped together and extended to accommodate the omission of mercury blues.

Vickip · 11 Oct 2012, 03:04

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Originally Posted by Dave

Wrong. It is a documentary about the technical aspects of putting together a Meat Loaf show - not a documentary about Meat Loaf. I found it to be quite enlightening. Just because the content does not suit you, does not mean it is "shit-ass" really. It is just not what you wanted.

Exactly ! I thought the documentary was great and thoroughly enjoyed it

Sarge · 11 Oct 2012, 03:09

If I counted correctly you used the word "shit" to emphasize your opinion on the company seven times on this thread. Very intelligent, convincing way to make a point.

If the product indeed contains technical flaws (haven't watched it, so I don't know if that's really the case), we don't know whose "fault" that is and if it's one particular party's "fault" only. Obviously the last paragraph of my previous post fell on deaf ears.

Wario · 11 Oct 2012, 03:12

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Originally Posted by Sarge

If I counted correctly you used the word "shit" to emphasize your opinion on the company seven times on this thread. Very intelligent, convincing way to make a point.

If the product indeed contains technical flaws (haven't watched it, so I don't know if that's really the case), we don't know whose "fault" that is and if it's one particular party's "fault" only. Obviously the last paragraph of my previous post fell on deaf ears.

watch the documentary and see what i mean. I thought u watched it. If it says "concert one presents" they are at fault for everything that is flawed.

Sarge · 11 Oct 2012, 03:21

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Originally Posted by Wario

If it says "concert one presents" they are at fault for everything that is flawed.

Read... the... paragraph... I... just... referred... to...

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Originally Posted by Sarge

So you imply they just did as they pleased? With no guidelines or interference from others? Usually there are concepts, contracts, demands, requests, agreements and some kind of supervision, communication, consent, disconsent, suggestions for improvement, etc. among the involved parties before a product hits the shelves. At least that's my "logical", maybe old-fashioned concept of dealing with projects like this. If the documentary was really "shit-ass", it wouldn't have been released or reworked before release, I guess.

(Sorry for the spelling error, "disconsent" was supposed to be "discontent".)

CarylB · 11 Oct 2012, 04:08

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Originally Posted by Wario

The company is utter shit.

If you're going to make such a sweepingly dismissive and rude statement you might at least make it clear that this is your opinion rather than state it as a fact .. particularly as you are judging an entire company on your very personal take on ONE DVD. You weren't involved in any stage of the work, so you cannot possibly know who is responsible for what perceived flaws.

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Theres nothing im assuming that isnt illogical. The documentary just comes off something slapped together and extended to accommodate the omission of mercury blues.

It's your own rather emotive and imo limited version of logic Chris, from your experience of one year's study, just as your assertion that the documentary is there to accommodate "the omission of Mercury Blues". You may have a huge bee in your bonnet about this .. not all those who buy and will enjoy this DVD will be troubled in the same way; I'd suspect that most will neither know nor care that Mercury Blues is absent. Many will find the documentary interesting.

One day you might find that someone from this company is the person making the decision on a job you want, or a piece of work you want to do .. good luck in that event!

Dave · 11 Oct 2012, 05:28

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Originally Posted by Wario

this is supposed to be a professional DVD and the Documentary was horrible! Its was enlightening, yes, but it was terribly produced and mediocre. they used CAMERA AUDIO and it peaked, there were black frames, and it looked like a documentary made in a class of mine.

Everything about the product was just fine to me. I appreciate what I was given and feel it is worth the money spent. I suppose I am very fortunate to have found a ruby in what you see as a mountain of rocks. I am quite satisfied with the product I received and have no complaints. Therefore, I highly disagree that the product is flawed. This is by far my favorite live Meat Loaf release to date. Sorry you are not enjoying the product, but you are very wrong saying the product is "flawed" and made by a "shit" company. There are some happy and some not - it is all opinion...nothing more, nothing less - please present it as such....not as fact as you are. What your eye sees is flawed, what my eye sees is just fine - neither of us are more correct than the other...we just have a different perception. That's all.

Dave · 11 Oct 2012, 05:29

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Originally Posted by Wario

If it says "concert one presents" they are at fault for everything that is flawed.

The major flaw that I see is all the people sitting in the audience...how in the Sam Hill Johnson is Concert One at fault for boring people in the crowd?

Dave · 11 Oct 2012, 05:32

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Originally Posted by Wario

... to accommodate the omission of mercury blues.

When were we ever promised Mercury Blues would be included on the DVD? The official set list that was sent around in the press release did not include this track. I would like you to state the source here.

robgomm · 11 Oct 2012, 10:32

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Originally Posted by Dave

The major flaw that I see is all the people sitting in the audience...how in the Sam Hill Johnson is Concert One at fault for boring people in the crowd?

Wario has been talking exclusively about the documentary as you well know. He loves the actual show. You know he's only referring to the documentary so why pick words just to have a go at him?

Wario you're absolutely right about many things to do with the documentary, although i'm not sure i would have expressed it quite that way lol. When you look at the description of the DVD/CD set on any site it just says bonus documentary. Now excuse me for being stupid but when I see that on a Meat Loaf product I expect to see a LOT of Meat Loaf and his band backstage. Not a load of people who i've never heard or seen before. While it was interesting to see and hear from those other people as to what they do in the background, it was at the same time a great disappointment in SO many ways.

1. Not enough interviews with Meat.

2. NO interviews with other band members.

3. Showing clips from the concert that we already have, why do they even do that? Talk about time wasting.

4. Being so amatuer as to not even use the final audio from the DVD instead of the original audio. If nothing else this little detail shows you how little attention to detail this documentary was given.

And stop being so damn picky over warios words just to have a go at him. You know he's an emotional guy, give him a little slack eh? The documentary was made by concert one, it says so at the start. I don't care whose mistakes it was individually, we will never find that out and i wouldn't expect to. Regardless someone in that company made mistakes, so wario is right that the finger of blame be pointed at concert one, or more specifically because i know you're all so picky, at an individual or individuals within that company.

07 Oct 2012, 17:27	#2
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	They did get your name and email, worked for them lol

09 Oct 2012, 20:50	#3
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	"Meatloaf Guilty Pleasure concert videos and downloads?" The world must be going to hell in a handbasket because if there are concerts for what sounds like a cookbook tour for meatloaf this is new to me! I may just actually check it out if a concert is around my local area. Actually this thread makes me consider cooking a potato and meatloaf supper sometime this month!

09 Oct 2012, 20:56	#5
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	They are a shit company. SHIT. they are the reason we have no mercury blues. They made a complete shit documentary. Horribly edited. Horrible audio. Horrible quality production. Meat and paul made the DVD what it is. If this was left unmastered like 3 Bats Live itd be shit.

10 Oct 2012, 18:23	#6
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Wario, you talk as if you were present during production. I'm a bit sceptical of that kind of judging and blaming presumed mistakes on people. I haven't seen any official statement as to who made decisions on what and who is responsible for alleged flaws, please enlighten me.

10 Oct 2012, 23:55	#13
wizardofodd Super Loafer Join Date: 14.11.2004 Location: London Posts: 412	If Meat literally edited the show, choosing shot by shot all I am going to say is- he has another career prospect down the line. The edit is first class.

11 Oct 2012, 02:26	#16
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	this is supposed to be a professional DVD and the Documentary was horrible! Its was enlightening, yes, but it was terribly produced and mediocre. they used CAMERA AUDIO and it peaked, there were black frames, and it looked like a documentary made in a class of mine. at the start it says "Concert One presents". some shots are a tad pixelated, the audio which Paul has stated he mixed the entire show is the DVD's saving grace. The company is utter shit. Theres nothing im assuming that isnt illogical. The documentary just comes off something slapped together and extended to accommodate the omission of mercury blues.

11 Oct 2012, 03:09	#18
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	If I counted correctly you used the word "shit" to emphasize your opinion on the company seven times on this thread. Very intelligent, convincing way to make a point. If the product indeed contains technical flaws (haven't watched it, so I don't know if that's really the case), we don't know whose "fault" that is and if it's one particular party's "fault" only. Obviously the last paragraph of my previous post fell on deaf ears.