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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:16   #326
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Kind of you to let us in on some backstory Meat. Thanks.
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:16   #327
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OK here it is , I had been the one baby sitting Gary with John Rich. He started a fight the night before with Lil John, Richard Hatch, Star Jones, and Mark. He tried to start with me again and I walked away for the third time. He grabbed me in the store had taken things out of my basket, never lifted a hand to help the team unload the truck into the paint shop.
from the art store. If you think I yelled for attention, boy do you not know who I am. I try to do everything to keep attention away from me. Gary made everyone on the team crazy from day one. Had fights with everyone everyday. I had slept for 4 hours when that all went down. What Gary had done that morning to the whole team was just absurd.The whole team was ready to kill him. Yes , I had a right to be mad, but I was wrong taking it that far. I said the wrong things. I don't remember now who wrote I did it for attention , let me tell you I don't need that kind of attention !!!
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It's all cool. Anyone can see that the show is cut to pieces before it goes out to represent events the way the producers/network want them represented. And those that can't ... I guess they're the ones still trying to work out what the chorus to Anything For Love means!!

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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:16   #328
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OK here it is , I had been the one baby sitting Gary with John Rich. He started a fight the night before with Lil John, Richard Hatch, Satr Jones, and Mark. He tried to start with me again and I walked away for the third time. He grabed me in the store had taken things out of my basket, never lifted a hand to help the team unload the truck into the paint shop.
from the art store. If you think I yelled for attention, boy do you not know who I am. I try to do everything to keep attention away from me. Gary made evryone on the team crazy from day one. Had fights with everyone everyday. I had slept for 4 hours when that all went down. What Gary had done that morning to the whole team was just absurd.The whole team was ready to kill him. Yes , I had a right to be mad, but I was wrong taking it that far. I said the wrong things. I don't remember now who wrote I did it for attention , let me tell you I don't need that kind of attention !!!
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Thanks for clarifying all that Meat, I've been saying all along that there would have been things going on behind the scenes which we never got to see. You and the rest of the team have been very patient with Gary and I'm surprised no one blew their top at him a lot earlier. The media really piss me off the way they portray you and have a go at you when they don't know the full story. But we know you, and know it takes a lot for you to lose your temper like that and that you are not attention seeking. Always on your side Meat.

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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:19   #329
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OK here it is , I had been the one baby sitting Gary with John Rich. He started a fight the night before with Lil John, Richard Hatch, Satr Jones, and Mark. He tried to start with me again and I walked away for the third time. He grabed me in the store had taken things out of my basket, never lifted a hand to help the team unload the truck into the paint shop.
from the art store. If you think I yelled for attention, boy do you not know who I am. I try to do everything to keep attention away from me. Gary made evryone on the team crazy from day one. Had fights with everyone everyday. I had slept for 4 hours when that all went down. What Gary had done that morning to the whole team was just absurd.The whole team was ready to kill him. Yes , I had a right to be mad, but I was wrong taking it that far. I said the wrong things. I don't remember now who wrote I did it for attention , let me tell you I don't need that kind of attention !!!
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My opinion is that I'm used to hearing the F word from you. It wasn't that you lost your temper, someone was going to, it just happened to be you. It was the MF word that myself and my co-workers were kind of shocked at hearing. Not defending your actions and Gary's but he just doesn't understand how he's making everyone so crazy. The tramatic brain injury that he sustain is part of the answer of why he acts the way he does. The most touching part of this show was that you apologized to him for loosing your temper. You were the bigger man to admit that you were half wrong. They have to show only the bad parts or else nobody would be watching the show.
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:33   #330
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Thanks for clarifying that for us Meat.
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:34   #331
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Thanks for clarifying all that Meat, I've been saying all along that there would have been things going on behind the scenes which we never got to see. You and the rest of the team have been very patient with Gary and I'm surprised no one blew their top at him a lot earlier. The media really piss me off the way they portray you and have a go at you when they don't know the full story. But we know you, and know it takes a lot for you to lose your temper like that and that you are not attention seeking. Always on your side Meat.

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Very well said Carole.
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 23:39   #332
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OK here it is , I had been the one baby sitting Gary with John Rich. He started a fight the night before with Lil John, Richard Hatch, Star Jones, and Mark. He tried to start with me again and I walked away for the third time. He grabbed me in the store had taken things out of my basket, never lifted a hand to help the team unload the truck into the paint shop from the art store.
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It's been increasingly obvious that Gary's lack of focus rambling, and tendency to disrupt the group have been irritating to all of you, and also that something we didn't see had put you to the point where he was standing on your last nerve, so thanks for posting, but you shouldn't need to expain to friends. Your apology and the way you dealt with it in the boardroom was real class, and done with skill and sincerity, and that's what I'll remember.

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Old 07 Apr 2011, 00:27   #333
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thanks for the clarification, Meat. Hugs to you. And you look awesome dressed as a pirate for next week
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 00:45   #334
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thanks for the clarification, Meat. Hugs to you. And you look awesome dressed as a pirate for next week
Ha, can't wait to see that!!!

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Old 07 Apr 2011, 00:52   #335
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Meat, I was never in any doubt that there was a very good reason why you lost it like you did. I know you well enough by now to know that you would not behave that way 'just for attention'. People who watch these reality shows must surely know that they are edited in a way that makes for 'better' TV. Us fans who know the person that you really are have not been fooled into thinking that we were wrong about you. I've been your fan for the last 25 years and no reality show is going to change that!
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 01:42   #336
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lets just go along for the ride and see if anything good comes from the Apprentice in the long run.
Sorry for being a "negative" spoilsport but I have to reject that invitation. I "went along for the ride" long enough and unfortunately it hasn't been a pleasant experience anymore recently, not only because of what happened on TV last weekend. I still think that Meat Loaf is an awesome singer and actor but when it comes to certain... er... other things... I feel stupid to have followed him for that many years. I guess this is the moment for me to jump off. Meat won't mind.

I agree with Adje and allrevvedup, the tantrum was crazy and pointless. You can't blame the language that was used and the unacceptable threats on editing. Whatever Busey did, there is NO justification and no "very good reason" for such a behavior. Well, at least it served for a good laugh on Kimmel and might beat Joan Rivers' "pokah playa" tirade. Well done!

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Old 07 Apr 2011, 02:01   #337
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Ha, can't wait to see that!!!

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Old 07 Apr 2011, 02:07   #338
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Meat said tonight that he had a right to be mad, but that he was wrong taking it that far. That's fair and it's honest. He regretted it, and he apologised. That's human, so I don't feel stupid to have followed a remarkable human being for many years, nor for continuing as I will. Imo there were perfectly understandable reasons why Meat had had enough, and he has owned to making a mistake in losing it to the extent he did. Most of us will make mistakes, and taking responsibility for them is what counts with me, and is something I admire, because it takes both honesty and courage.

I too am looking forward to seeing Cap'n Meat .. with or without parrot on broad shoulder

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Old 07 Apr 2011, 02:15   #339
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OK here it is , I had been the one baby sitting Gary with John Rich. He started a fight the night before with Lil John, Richard Hatch, Star Jones, and Mark. He tried to start with me again and I walked away for the third time. He grabbed me in the store had taken things out of my basket, never lifted a hand to help the team unload the truck into the paint shop.
from the art store. If you think I yelled for attention, boy do you not know who I am. I try to do everything to keep attention away from me. Gary made everyone on the team crazy from day one. Had fights with everyone everyday. I had slept for 4 hours when that all went down. What Gary had done that morning to the whole team was just absurd.The whole team was ready to kill him. Yes , I had a right to be mad, but I was wrong taking it that far. I said the wrong things. I don't remember now who wrote I did it for attention , let me tell you I don't need that kind of attention !!!
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Thank you so much for telling us that Meat. I had a gut feeling that Gary had annoyed everyone. You were very patient with him...more than I would have been. Huge kudos to you for not taking anymore from him. Being tired and putting up with that sort of craziness would be to much for anyone.

As for anyone saying that you did that for attention. All I can say is...really??really? I don't think so. Things happen in the heat of the moment. People have to realize that you are human and yes you have your limits. The fact that the cameras were rolling went it happened is unfortunate. Great for ratings yes but unfortunate. Being on set working long hours takes it's toll. Having a bad temper doesn't make you a bad person...my temper is bad too.

My 2 cents. Don't sweat the small stuff. Things like this happen. The media will have their fun. People with say what they will. True fans will still love you.

Hang tuff big guy,
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 03:19   #340
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Sorry for being a "negative" spoilsport but I have to reject that invitation. I "went along for the ride" long enough and unfortunately it hasn't been a pleasant experience anymore recently, not only because of what happened on TV last weekend. I still think that Meat Loaf is an awesome singer and actor but when it comes to certain... er... other things... I feel stupid to have followed him for that many years. I guess this is the moment for me to jump off. Meat won't mind.

I agree with Adje and allrevvedup, the tantrum was crazy and pointless. You can't blame the language that was used and the unacceptable threats on editing. Whatever Busey did, there is NO justification and no "very good reason" for such a behavior. Well, at least it served for a good laugh on Kimmel and might beat Joan Rivers' "pokah playa" tirade. Well done!
Sarge,
I understand and I'm also glad that in your life you have never none anything without the proper justification and you have never behaved in a manor that wasn't always 100% proper. It must be nice to be so perfect. I'm sorry I'm not !! That makes you able to throw the 1st stone !!
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 03:26   #341
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Meat, I can assure you that I have done a lot of stupid things in my life and I'm far from being perfect. Yet I have good reasons for my point of view. You know that it's not only because of the outburst on CA.
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if truth be told all of us have at least once in our lives have been pushed so that we have acted in a way that was not deemed to be 100% proper,i know i have on more than one occasion its only human
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if truth be told all of us have at least once in our lives have been pushed so that we have acted in a way that was not deemed to be 100% proper,i know i have on more than one occasion its only human
Exactly ... I can't tell you how many times I lost my temper with my Dad at the store
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if truth be told all of us have at least once in our lives have been pushed so that we have acted in a way that was not deemed to be 100% proper,i know i have on more than one occasion its only human
Well said. I have blown up and regretted it before. Key thing is to learn from it and move on.
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Exactly ... I can't tell you how many times I lost my temper with my Dad at the store
i know what you mean Vicki lol ..no one in this world is perfect.
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 04:11   #346
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Meat, I can assure you that I have done a lot of stupid things in my life and I'm far from being perfect. Yet I have good reasons for my point of view. You know that it's not only because of the outburst on CA.
See you later dude, at least I know who my friends are. Sorry I wasted your time. You have good reasons for your point of view but I don't have one for my point of view. Interesting, anything you say or do is justified (point of view) , but my actions can never be. Wow !! I had plenty of good reasons for my point of view with Gary, my actions were wrong, but Everyone on the team stood behind me and still do , I also maned up twice and said I was wrong and never once in public blamed Gary. In fact you should go to Gary's web site and be his fan. You seem to be very much alike.
Enough is enough
I am upset at what happened , I don't need you to tell me when I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure I don't think what happen is funny.
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It happened, it passed...
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 04:30   #348
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Thank you for proving my point and confirming that I made the right decision, Meat. As I already said, it's not only because of your problems with Gary Busey. I like you but there are things I've gotten tired of.

Sorry for having a mind of my own.

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In fact you should go to Gary's web site and be his fan. You seem to be very much alike.
I will take this as a compliment.

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Old 07 Apr 2011, 04:36   #349
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jesus ~~~~ing christ.

anyone whose going to judge Meat over a TELEVISION EPISODE ON REALITY TV is not deserving of any sort of friendship.
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 04:40   #350
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Thank you for proving my point and confirming that I made the right decision, Meat. As I already said, it's not only because of your problems with Gary Busey. I like you but there are things I've gotten tired of.

Well, you have enough "friends" left to constantly and unconditionally flatter you so you can afford to drive some of your long-time fans away. Sorry for having a mind of my own.

I will take this as a compliment.
holy crap sarge. I respect you BUT....

This is all instigating stuff thats uneeded. I dont mean to be MOD-like, but I dont think this tread needs this right now.

This isnt a "hey guys, im leaving" thread. If you're leaving cause of Meat's actions, PM HIM.

The first sentence of the post you posted concerns me greatly. I bolded it. It sounds as if you were bating Meat to post what he posted.

He doesn't need his fans publicly doing this. this isnt the place for that.

In all honesty, The press thinking meat looked like a pedophile during paradise in 2007 was worse then this.

Meat made Reality TV History! Ten Million years from now, itll still be on the top 100 Reality Moments of all time. thats a huge plus :)

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