Pro Shot of Land of the pig

[Wario]

YouTube Video

Saskatchewan on You Tube is the best.

[samurai7]

cool, nice find.

[Evil One]

Very nice. Hopefully one day it surfaces in the quality it no doubt had before Youtube became involved.

Here's Rock And Roll Dreams from the same show:

YouTube Video

And Mercury Blues:

YouTube Video

And a repost of Gimme Shelter for anyone who missed it the first time I spotted it:

YouTube Video

[snider22]

I was looking through the guys videos and he has the performance where Lisa Bouchelle opened for Meat this past summer in Gilford, NH.

[melon]

Lol at Meat's impression of Paul in Mercury Blues ha ha

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by snider22

I was looking through the guys videos and he has the performance where Lisa Bouchelle opened for Meat this past summer in Gilford, NH.

So it's a reasonable assumption to make that he also has Meat's part of the show.

[snider22]

Originally Posted by Evil One

So it's a reasonable assumption to make that he also has Meat's part of the show.

Right u are Mr. Evil One

[Evil One]

But he's going in such a bizarre, round the houses way of doing things, it may take a while to appear!

[Wario]

Lemon has been posted:

YouTube Video

[Evil One]

It's also a reasonable assumption to make that at some point this person (or their friend) will get fired from working at this venue!

[Wario]

Frying Pan:

YouTube Video

Bat:

YouTube Video

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Evil One

So it's a reasonable assumption to make that he also has Meat's part of the show.

Exactly. Maybe that's where they got the footage that they use in the HCTB tour video
Thanks for posting the links Wario !

[allrevvedup]

In the land of the pig is a great song, quite possibly the best one on Bat III, but the live performances of it never really came close.

I know Sir Loaf has subsequently said that that wasn't a great, or happy tour, and it does show on that video.

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

In the land of the pig is a great song, quite possibly the best one on Bat III, but the live performances of it never really came close.

Possibly because (like with The Monster Is Loose) they were playing along to a video, so they couldn't deviate/improvise in any way.

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

I know Sir Loaf has subsequently said that that wasn't a great, or happy tour, and it does show on that video.

It does. I may get shouted down, but Meat looks like shit in these videos.

[allrevvedup]

Originally Posted by Evil One

It does. I may get shouted down, but Meat looks like shit in these videos.

yeah he doesn't look well in those vids alright. Regardless of anything else, the one thing you can say about the Hang Cool tour is that he looks happier and healthier

[Wario]

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

yeah he doesn't look well in those vids alright. Regardless of anything else, the one thing you can say about the Hang Cool tour is that he looks happier and healthier

Its a cycle:

1977: Healthy, full of energy
1978: Unhealthy, still full of energy
1981-1982: Very Unhealthy, energy gone
1983: Healthier, energy getting back
1985 - 2002: Healthy (for the most part), full of energy
2003 - 2004: Unhealthy, still full of energy
2006 - 2007: Very Unhealthy, energy gone
2008: Healthier, energy getting back
2010-Current: Healthy (for the most part), full of energy

hopefully the Healthy full of energy phase will last for 17 years like last time

[AndrewG]

What about 2005? I disagree about 2006, RAH. In my opinion he looked and sounded excellent there, it was the subsequent tour that seemed to have wrecked him.

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I disagree about 2006, RAH. In my opinion he looked and sounded excellent there, it was the subsequent tour that seemed to have wrecked him.

But he did the Ken Bruce show two days later and that was appalling.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Royal Albert Hall production was excellent. He was on form. Ken Bruce was a bad one, but then again Meat wasn't enjoying the whole "Bat3" era - Got pushed too far by the management. Travelling alot and having little rest!

Whereas 2010/11 comes and Meat is enjoying himself. Has more control over what is happening. Full of Energy because of the record is so brilliant.. Its excellent...

I feel 2011 will be a good year for Meat and Co.
R

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Evil One

But he did the Ken Bruce show two days later and that was appalling.

Indeed it was, I was shocked!!! It was recorded early in the morning I believe. And then we got the whole BAAB + album vocal fiasco. Unbelievable.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

What about 2005? I disagree about 2006, RAH. In my opinion he looked and sounded excellent there, it was the subsequent tour that seemed to have wrecked him.

thats a typo, i meant 2005-2007. 2006 is a little tricky. i wasn't even thinking about RAH, but thats just one show. Ken Bruce, the new years show, and the today show were pretty mediocre (sans BAAB on new years turned out great)

of course that cycle patter has nothing to do with how he sounded. it was about the fun he was having and energy and health he had. RAH had some great atmosphere, but since recent revelations, I dunno if he really was having fun. But It was a great show from what ive heard. wish I was there.

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

of course that cycle patter has nothing to do with how he sounded. it was about the fun he was having and energy and health he had. RAH had some great atmosphere, but since recent revelations, I dunno if he really was having fun. But It was a great show from what ive heard. wish I was there.

If there's any "pattern" I think it's no more than most of us would have taken over a 30 year plus period .. particularly if we put as much energy and effort into such a busy and sustained career as Meat.

Looking back over the whole Bat3 period Meat identifies many things that made it a bad experience for him overall, but that doesn't mean his health was poor throughout, nor that he lacked energy or had any fun imo.

He certainly appears much fitter now with his new fighting weight, but the work he undertook during the Bat3 promotion would have defeated many people! I saw him at the 3 day golf tournament in that summer .. At that point after recording the album, he'd been on the road promoting for 2 months solid. He was probably tired, who wouldn't be? But he was full of energy, good humour and great fun. He then continued on a heavy round of promotional activity right up to the RAH, which in itself must have put huge pressure on him, whilst at the eleventh hour having to induct a new singing partner.

I saw him before the show and he looked a little tired but well .. and that night gave the super-charged performance of his life and sang his ass off. He then continued promoting and into the tour, putting huge energy into every show as he always does. Did he look tired at times? You bet .. who wouldn't? Was his voice strained at times? No doubt, and remember this was during the period which was leading up to the final discovery that he had been suffering from a vocal cyst for some time. Who knows how long that had been causing difficulty.

I'm not sure why you consider him to have been unhealthy in 1978 .. he looked pretty fit and energy-packed when I saw him In 2003 he dropped like a stone on stage during an amazing tour .. but that was found to be WPW syndrome, he had surgery and was back on stage in a relatively short time, brimming with energy again and fit as a musical flea Someone in generally poor health wouldn't have bounded back to a tour imo.

Really imo you're highlighting that in the early eighties relentless touring took its toll, and then the Bat3 tour and promotion was lengthy and exhausting, and led straight into the next tour when he was under great strain, worrying about his voice, which culminated in the diagnosis of the vocal cyst. Fortunately that healed .. and we've now heard the marvellous results of the rest and the vocal coaching. And now of course, he's recorded an album he loves with every fibre of his being, and has a new energy, sense of creative purpose, and lease of life

Caryl

[stretch37]

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

thats a typo, i meant 2005-2007. 2006 is a little tricky. i wasn't even thinking about RAH, but thats just one show. Ken Bruce, the new years show, and the today show were pretty mediocre (sans BAAB on new years turned out great)

of course that cycle patter has nothing to do with how he sounded. it was about the fun he was having and energy and health he had. RAH had some great atmosphere, but since recent revelations, I dunno if he really was having fun. But It was a great show from what ive heard. wish I was there.

I like ur comment dude. And I agree, RAH had a great atmosphere. A lot things look like they went right that night. But with all of the wrong that occurred during the Bat 3 times, he couldn't sustain that type of show from night to night. So i agree...in a sense, that show was great, but it wasn't a real representation of his energy back then. It was just one night that clicked at at time where that was probably only capable of happening as a fluke.

Now, on the other hand, we have seen RAH-calibre shows night after night in the US and UK. So this, in contrast to the actual RAH, exhibits a more real sense of fun and positive energy...being able to repeatedly have all the right things click and have the show happen that way each night, or close to it.

And in a few days....i'll be able to tell you if it has continued into the 3rd leg of the tour :)

[CarylB]

I'd like to see someone without energy fulfill the number and calibre of shows Meat delivered after the RAH .. and he did manage to sustain some terrific shows night after night. But it was a very long tour, and must have been exhausting, so in my view you'd need to be generally fit to have managed it at all. I don't know which shows you went to, but I saw a lot on that tour in the UK and the USA, and Meat's energy was great at all the ones I went to, every song filled with all the passion he always delivers.

The RAH was a great show, great performance, and had an amazing atmosphere .. but if we're talking calibre, the current shows are imo even better vocally, because Meat's voice has healed and he's singing better than he has for years. That he knows this I think contributes to his obvious enjoyment and fun at every show, plus I think the new album, new arrangements, and a fantastic band that he revels in, contribute to a renewed enthusiasm and love of what he's doing. For some years now he's stressed about his voice (as he has said when people post their worries about the toll on it, "I worry enough for all of us!") .. That's been lifted imo .. and that too is what we see so positively on stage and has put a new spring in his performing step.

Enjoy your show.

Caryl

[stretch37]

Originally Posted by CarylB

I'd like to see someone without energy fulfill the number and calibre of shows Meat delivered after the RAH .. and he did manage to sustain some terrific shows night after night. But it was a very long tour, and must have been exhausting, so in my view you'd need to be generally fit to have managed it at all. I don't know which shows you went to, but I saw a lot on that tour in the UK and the USA, and Meat's energy was great at all the ones I went to, every song filled with all the passion he always delivers.

I'm not sure why you felt you needed to say that. My comment was that the US and UK shows were all or mostly as good as RAH each night. So we both just said the same opinion in two different ways..lol

Originally Posted by CarylB

Enjoy your show.

Thanks I will hehe :)