Oldest woman to give birth dies

Pudding · 16 Jul 2009, 02:31

The oldest person ever to give birth María del Carmen Bousada de Lara has died aged 69 leaving behind two 2 year old twins ----> HERE

Personally I think it's every womans right to have or not to have children, but there's got to be a limit. The selfish daft bitch must have realised that giving birth at 67 there'd be very little chance of seeing her kids reach their 18th Birthdays.

Wario · 16 Jul 2009, 04:32

Thats cruel pud, but very true

Pudding · 16 Jul 2009, 06:00

I'm just thinking about the kids.

SamCat · 16 Jul 2009, 09:33

Unfortunately you can die at any age!! My friend died 8 months after her baby was born and she was only 29 they found her cancer when she was pregnant Dying at 69 is well below the average life expectancy and if she'd been a man having children at 66 i doubt it would've made the news at all!!

Pudding · 16 Jul 2009, 10:03

On average older people die before younger people, strange but true.

By the time she reached the average life expectancy for a woman in Spain her kids would barely be in their teens.

But what raises another question is, if what she did was so right then how come she lied about her age, claiming she was 55 and not 67? And for the record I don't agree with old men fathering children either

sexyeyes_jo · 16 Jul 2009, 23:31

to be honest i ain't got sympathy for her, the kids yeah i do have sympathy for them. i don't think its right that people in their 60's are having kids they're gonna be in their 80's when the kids are in college but if people want kids why don't they have them when they are younger like in their 30's or 40's but not in their 60's, call me old fashion but i don't want to be old and wrinkly when my kids are at college.

**The Flying Mouse** · 17 Jul 2009, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexyeyes_jo

i don't want to be old and wrinkly when my kids are at college.

You leaving that up to me are you?

sexyeyes_jo · 17 Jul 2009, 13:02

lol no you won't be old and wrinkly when they are college actually i can't picture you as old and wrinkly lol

KebLou · 17 Jul 2009, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

On average older people die before younger people, strange but true.

By the time she reached the average life expectancy for a woman in Spain her kids would barely be in their teens.

But what raises another question is, if what she did was so right then how come she lied about her age, claiming she was 55 and not 67? And for the record I don't agree with old men fathering children either

Yes and no... Strangly there are higher mortality rates during certain stages of life. Men are more likey to die then women at every stage of life, so men shouldn't bother having children as there is a 50/50 chance they'll see their childs 18th birthday....

I'm sure if when I was born if my nan had a child people like you would be saying the same rubbish and she was still able to have children, but strangly enough whos picking up the pieces after my mum died. Oh sorry but thats ok because she saw my 18th birthday. Just like SamCat I have a friend who was a nurse and she died when her son was 13/14 because someone put a drip in badly and that killed her and then her husband remarried his next wife died of cancer when their son was not even a 1yr old. They weren't even 40...

I don't necessarily think she should have had the children, but then that stems from the fact she was deceptive so she must have known she was doing wrong.

~Helen~ · 17 Jul 2009, 18:13

I don't want to enter the right or wrong debate as I can see plenty from both sides.

However, I noticed this in yesterday's newspaper along with a picture of the lady holding the babies, presumably shortly after they were born...maybe this is just me, but I thought she looked old for 67...so how anyone believed she was only 55 is a wonder. And it suprised me that she wasn't asked to provide any idenfication or medical records beforehand.

Pudding · 17 Jul 2009, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by KebLou

Just like SamCat I have a friend who was a nurse and she died when her son was 13/14 because someone put a drip in badly and that killed her and then her husband remarried his next wife died of cancer when their son was not even a 1yr old. They weren't even 40...

We can't foresee every tragedy that comes along, so we have to try and have some sort of level playing field. It's sad how many children become orphans, which is why, when we can, we should not allow that to happen.

SamCat · 18 Jul 2009, 00:13

Theres no such thing as a level playing field when it comes to life!! My Dad lived a reletively healthy life and died at 62 when i was 15, then my Mum remarried a man who was the same age as my Dad, who has had health problems all his life and smoked well into his 70s and is now 90!! The spanish lady who died, her mother lived to 101 so who knows how long we are meant to be here!!

Pudding · 18 Jul 2009, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

Theres no such thing as a level playing field when it comes to life!!

You know what I meant. Obviously you want a fight, I'll not play along

SamCat · 18 Jul 2009, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

You know what I meant. Obviously you want a fight, I'll not play along

No not really i'm just sharing my story of how things can be!!

My parents were considered ancient at 41 and 47 in 1967 when i was born and now that is not unusual!! My Mum is amazing at 83 and if she'd had me at 66 i'd have had a reasonable amount of time with her

I just feel that whatever age you have children 16 or 66 you cant guarantee how long you're gonna be around for!!

Pudding · 18 Jul 2009, 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

I just feel that whatever age you have children 16 or 66 you cant guarantee how long you're gonna be around for!!

Which is why I said It's sad how many children become orphans, which is why, when we can, we should not allow that to happen.

On average I'd say older people die before younger ones.

KebLou · 18 Jul 2009, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

On average I'd say older people die before younger ones.

Depends on what you classify as younger and older. There are higher mortality rates in different stages of life, if you've made it to 60 theres a higher chance you'll make it to 80 for instance then if your 40... or even a teenager. In the victorian times the highest mortality rate was in the under 5's, so if you made it through those years you were pretty safe. Nowadays I think you'll find the most dangerous ages are teenage years and mid to late 40's...

Like I said before I don't think she should have had the babies but then that is because she had gone through the menopause etc. If she had really wanted children she should have done it a lot sooner, plus she was a single parent. I have nothing against single parents but rasing a child with two parents is hard, having one parent whos in their 60's is just unimaginable, its unfair on the children because whos going to pick them up when they fall over and cut themselves. There's an eight year gap between my brother and myself and my dad said there was a big difference in his ability to cope with a young baby.

Pudding · 18 Jul 2009, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by KebLou

Depends on what you classify as younger and older.

It depends if I want to be pedantic, which I don't which is why I said 'on average'. If more younger people died than older people then we wouldn't end up with old people

Sue K · 24 Jul 2009, 13:36

i've read nothing of what anyone here has said... but imo ... it was all for what ? ... poor kids ... stupid woman ...

16 Jul 2009, 02:31	#1
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Oldest woman to give birth dies The oldest person ever to give birth María del Carmen Bousada de Lara has died aged 69 leaving behind two 2 year old twins ----> HERE Personally I think it's every womans right to have or not to have children, but there's got to be a limit. The selfish daft bitch must have realised that giving birth at 67 there'd be very little chance of seeing her kids reach their 18th Birthdays.

16 Jul 2009, 04:32	#2
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Thats cruel pud, but very true

16 Jul 2009, 06:00	#3
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I'm just thinking about the kids.

16 Jul 2009, 09:33	#4
SamCat Hello Harry!!!! Join Date: 11.09.2006 Location: London Posts: 3,086	Unfortunately you can die at any age!! My friend died 8 months after her baby was born and she was only 29 they found her cancer when she was pregnant Dying at 69 is well below the average life expectancy and if she'd been a man having children at 66 i doubt it would've made the news at all!!

16 Jul 2009, 10:03	#5
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	On average older people die before younger people, strange but true. By the time she reached the average life expectancy for a woman in Spain her kids would barely be in their teens. But what raises another question is, if what she did was so right then how come she lied about her age, claiming she was 55 and not 67? And for the record I don't agree with old men fathering children either

16 Jul 2009, 23:31	#6
sexyeyes_jo Mrs Mouse Join Date: 17.05.2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 4,633	to be honest i ain't got sympathy for her, the kids yeah i do have sympathy for them. i don't think its right that people in their 60's are having kids they're gonna be in their 80's when the kids are in college but if people want kids why don't they have them when they are younger like in their 30's or 40's but not in their 60's, call me old fashion but i don't want to be old and wrinkly when my kids are at college.

17 Jul 2009, 13:02	#8
sexyeyes_jo Mrs Mouse Join Date: 17.05.2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 4,633	lol no you won't be old and wrinkly when they are college actually i can't picture you as old and wrinkly lol

17 Jul 2009, 18:13	#10
~Helen~ Mega Loafer Join Date: 01.11.2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,958	I don't want to enter the right or wrong debate as I can see plenty from both sides. However, I noticed this in yesterday's newspaper along with a picture of the lady holding the babies, presumably shortly after they were born...maybe this is just me, but I thought she looked old for 67...so how anyone believed she was only 55 is a wonder. And it suprised me that she wasn't asked to provide any idenfication or medical records beforehand.

18 Jul 2009, 00:13	#12
SamCat Hello Harry!!!! Join Date: 11.09.2006 Location: London Posts: 3,086	Theres no such thing as a level playing field when it comes to life!! My Dad lived a reletively healthy life and died at 62 when i was 15, then my Mum remarried a man who was the same age as my Dad, who has had health problems all his life and smoked well into his 70s and is now 90!! The spanish lady who died, her mother lived to 101 so who knows how long we are meant to be here!!

24 Jul 2009, 13:36	#18
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	i've read nothing of what anyone here has said... but imo ... it was all for what ? ... poor kids ... stupid woman ...