Major Behind the Music Inconsistency

Wario · 15 Oct 2007, 01:33

I have recently read Meat's book "To hell and Back" and can't find it anywhere that he saw his dad after the heated argument. I watched the "To Hell and Back" movie and the Behind the Music thing and they say they reunited with him later after Bat was a hit. Did he ever see his dad again after the heated argument?

just wondering.....

MeatGrl1 · 15 Oct 2007, 02:10

No he has not as far as I'm aware... I mean realistically if your dad came after you with a knife and slashed your bed and just came after you.. Would you want to see that person again? It would be nice to think that Meat and his father saw each other again on different terms but I doubt after that they met again as Meat had built a life and career for himself.

Pudding · 15 Oct 2007, 05:19

Can't say I pay much attention to Meats Dad, but I thought he passed away before Bat Out Of Hell was released.

Pud

LucyK! · 15 Oct 2007, 11:53

According to the interview Meat did on This Morning to promote the book there was the big fight which prompted Meat leaving, and then they saw each other once more after that and his father had no recollection of what he had done.

In fairness I'm sure any inconsistencies in this story can be excuse given that it's not something that anyone will want to go into major detail about

Kev · 15 Oct 2007, 11:59

The film is interesting, but its so full of wrong parts its untrue!

meatloaf-unofficial · 15 Oct 2007, 12:09

Don't quote me on this but recently I read or heard it (when I come to think of it) that his dad died in 1972... Not sure but that date with the word Meats Dad rings a bell...

I'll try and find the quote and if so, will post it!

Added: thats it, I was working on my essay and found it somewhere....

mszee · 15 Oct 2007, 15:26

The movie wasn't authorized and is full of holes...BUT...I do think they reunited at some point...although I think his father is dead now...

One thing seems to be that he never tours Texas...tells you something...

**RadioMaster** · 15 Oct 2007, 16:31

well, its trying to be one of those blockbusters, they had to change a lot to make the story cheesier.
Especially with the last "my mother said i was special"-scene.

batcity · 15 Oct 2007, 18:08

ahh to Hell and back, what a load of crap that was, some parts I can say, did happen but on the whole 80% of the film was junk, just thrown in. I think they should remake it!!!

mszee · 15 Oct 2007, 18:09

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Originally Posted by batcity1

ahh to Hell and back, what a load of crap that was, some parts I can say, did happen but on the whole 80% of the film was junk, just thrown in. I think they should remake it!!!

There is a problem with that...one version isn't going to be much better than the other...way too many versions of the same stories or conflicting stories...

Pudding · 16 Oct 2007, 01:07

Perhaps they should do a Clint Eastwood, he did Letters From Iwo Jima and Land Of Our Fathers. Two films about the same conflict from different sides.

Land Of Our Loafster and Letters From Iwo Jimmy

Pud

Wario · 16 Oct 2007, 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

Perhaps they should do a Clint Eastwood, he did Letters From Iwo Jima and Land Of Our Fathers. Two films about the same conflict from different sides.

Land Of Our Loafster and Letters From Iwo Jimmy

Pud

Wrong thread?

Pudding · 16 Oct 2007, 05:16

No it isn't, it was a progression of the conversation from one thing to another. Granted, I might have tried to inject a bit of humour into my post which has gone over your head, but the point was a follow on from previous posts made. In that, it would be good to see the same thing from both Meats point of view and Jims point of view.

Pud

mszee · 16 Oct 2007, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

No it isn't, it was a progression of the conversation from one thing to another. Granted, I might have tried to inject a bit of humour into my post which has gone over your head, but the point was a follow on from previous posts made. In that, it would be good to see the same thing from both Meats point of view and Jims point of view.

Pud

Yeah, well...every fan might dream about that...but the chances of THAT happening are null...the thing is...even if we have some anecdotes from Meat's childhood/teenage years...Steinman seems to have sprung fully grown out of nowhere in particular...

So I don't see movie or book based on his life any time soon...

**RadioMaster** · 16 Oct 2007, 18:23

id really be interested in an autobiography by jimmy. as you said, you know nearly nothing aobut him.
studied at amhurst, started out writing musicals, wrires and produces music/musicals, lives in NY, and thats it...

mszee · 16 Oct 2007, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

id really be interested in an autobiography by jimmy. as you said, you know nearly nothing aobut him.
studied at amhurst, started out writing musicals, wrires and produces music/musicals, lives in NY, and thats it...

Can you imagine childhood and youth SO bad in your opinion that you want completely obliterate it?

**RadioMaster** · 16 Oct 2007, 19:05

i dont really think he doesnt talk about it, because he had a bad childhood, its just not his way to talk about private stuff.
For example, does anyone know anything about his family? is he married? does he have children?
He keeps all the personal stuff to himself

SamCat · 17 Oct 2007, 00:04

Rj i think we do kinda know that he has children!!

**RadioMaster** · 17 Oct 2007, 00:06

lol, yeah we do

Pudding · 17 Oct 2007, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

For example, does anyone know anything about
his family? is he married? does he have children?

He has a brother called Bill (I think) he's not married, never has been, not even in a past life, he doesn't have any children. His Dad had something to do with the steel industry if I remember correctly. That's about all there is out there.

Pud

mszee · 17 Oct 2007, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

Rj i think we do kinda know that he has children!!

Are you his long lost daughter???

mszee · 17 Oct 2007, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

i dont really think he doesnt talk about it, because he had a bad childhood, its just not his way to talk about private stuff.
For example, does anyone know anything about his family? is he married? does he have children?
He keeps all the personal stuff to himself

This is beyond private...I think...

**RadioMaster** · 17 Oct 2007, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

He has a brother called Bill (I think) he's not married, never has been, not even in a past life, he doesn't have any children. His Dad had something to do with the steel industry if I remember correctly. That's about all there is out there.

Pud

thats not all: we know tha susan took his virginity

Evil One · 17 Oct 2007, 01:34

Plus we know he wrote the Rocky Horror Show and he used to be a cat.

Wario · 17 Oct 2007, 03:10

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Plus we know he wrote the Rocky Horror Show and he used to be a cat.

OMG , thats so freaky ......... he wrote the RHPS

15 Oct 2007, 01:33	#1
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Major Behind the Music Inconsistency I have recently read Meat's book "To hell and Back" and can't find it anywhere that he saw his dad after the heated argument. I watched the "To Hell and Back" movie and the Behind the Music thing and they say they reunited with him later after Bat was a hit. Did he ever see his dad again after the heated argument? just wondering.....

15 Oct 2007, 02:10	#2
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	No he has not as far as I'm aware... I mean realistically if your dad came after you with a knife and slashed your bed and just came after you.. Would you want to see that person again? It would be nice to think that Meat and his father saw each other again on different terms but I doubt after that they met again as Meat had built a life and career for himself.

15 Oct 2007, 05:19	#3
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Can't say I pay much attention to Meats Dad, but I thought he passed away before Bat Out Of Hell was released. Pud

15 Oct 2007, 11:53	#4
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	According to the interview Meat did on This Morning to promote the book there was the big fight which prompted Meat leaving, and then they saw each other once more after that and his father had no recollection of what he had done. In fairness I'm sure any inconsistencies in this story can be excuse given that it's not something that anyone will want to go into major detail about

15 Oct 2007, 11:59	#5
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,857	The film is interesting, but its so full of wrong parts its untrue!

15 Oct 2007, 12:09	#6
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	Don't quote me on this but recently I read or heard it (when I come to think of it) that his dad died in 1972... Not sure but that date with the word Meats Dad rings a bell... I'll try and find the quote and if so, will post it! Added: thats it, I was working on my essay and found it somewhere....

15 Oct 2007, 15:26	#7
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	The movie wasn't authorized and is full of holes...BUT...I do think they reunited at some point...although I think his father is dead now... One thing seems to be that he never tours Texas...tells you something...

15 Oct 2007, 16:31	#8
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	well, its trying to be one of those blockbusters, they had to change a lot to make the story cheesier. Especially with the last "my mother said i was special"-scene.

15 Oct 2007, 18:08	#9
batcity Guest Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 751	ahh to Hell and back, what a load of crap that was, some parts I can say, did happen but on the whole 80% of the film was junk, just thrown in. I think they should remake it!!!

16 Oct 2007, 01:07	#11
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Perhaps they should do a Clint Eastwood, he did Letters From Iwo Jima and Land Of Our Fathers. Two films about the same conflict from different sides. Land Of Our Loafster and Letters From Iwo Jimmy Pud

16 Oct 2007, 05:16	#13
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	No it isn't, it was a progression of the conversation from one thing to another. Granted, I might have tried to inject a bit of humour into my post which has gone over your head, but the point was a follow on from previous posts made. In that, it would be good to see the same thing from both Meats point of view and Jims point of view. Pud

16 Oct 2007, 18:23	#15
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	id really be interested in an autobiography by jimmy. as you said, you know nearly nothing aobut him. studied at amhurst, started out writing musicals, wrires and produces music/musicals, lives in NY, and thats it...

16 Oct 2007, 19:05	#17
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	i dont really think he doesnt talk about it, because he had a bad childhood, its just not his way to talk about private stuff. For example, does anyone know anything about his family? is he married? does he have children? He keeps all the personal stuff to himself

17 Oct 2007, 00:04	#18
SamCat Hello Harry!!!! Join Date: 12.09.2006 Location: London Posts: 3,086	Rj i think we do kinda know that he has children!!

17 Oct 2007, 00:06	#19
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	lol, yeah we do

17 Oct 2007, 01:34	#24
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Plus we know he wrote the Rocky Horror Show and he used to be a cat.