in the land of the pig - lyrics

**RadioMaster** · 29 Oct 2006, 21:05

I absolutely dont get the LOTP lyrics

who are THEY? and who are WE?

Anybody knows the context? AFAIK it´s from the Batman musical, right?

DazLoaf01 · 29 Oct 2006, 21:09

It's to do with the Gotham currupt policeforce I thought? "pig" being a slang term for the police - I'm unsure if that is used anywhere else in the world other than England lol.

duke knooby · 29 Oct 2006, 21:13

thats correct rj, you can read about it in jims blog. "pig is written to be the song of the corrupt bloodsuckers who run gotham city" it goes on... july 9th entry.

Jeanie · 29 Oct 2006, 21:24

I thought "they" refered to the government/establishment and "we" are the pigs, at the mercy of the "they.. the butcher/ government/establishment". Just my inturpetation of the song. :)

J.

Pudding · 30 Oct 2006, 00:16

The term pig in this song has nothing at all to do with the police.

The song is sung by the 'power(s) that be' about the minions(people) who basically walk around with their head up their ass, who do as they're told and are easily fooled.

The easiest way to explain it is, if you imagine Kim Jong Il (leader of North Korea) as the butcher and the ordinary North Koreans as pigs.

Pud

**RadioMaster** · 30 Oct 2006, 10:47

so they (their lives are truly meaningless) are the pig and we (are busy being blessed with all that we can take and pocket) are the butchers?

so, we slaughter them? (cant you hear the slaughterhousebells)

If I´m not wrong, then "the chosen one" (cant you hear the cosen one sing) would be Batman, right?

Heli · 30 Oct 2006, 10:54

You're all wrong.....

...it's about a little kid playing with his pork dinner, and pretending to be all high and mighty, while his little chippolarter sausages are the people of his mash and gravy city....god as if you didn't know that...

**RadioMaster** · 30 Oct 2006, 10:58

well, another......interpretation...

Heli · 30 Oct 2006, 12:08

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

well, another......interpretation...

Lol i was joking love!

mszee · 30 Oct 2006, 14:33

Have another question...is it me or the title of the song is somehow garbled...it clearly sounds PIGS not PIG in the song...and if it is a singular pig the entire thing doesn't make sense

**RadioMaster** · 30 Oct 2006, 14:36

the song is definitely called pig, but Meat sings pigs (it´s also in the booklet spelt as pigs)

On the other hand.....on Jim´s demo, he sings clearly Land of the PIG........

needmoremeat · 30 Oct 2006, 16:21

Jim said on his blog it was meant to be Pig singular, but Meat sings it Pigs.
Just think of that as like AFL. On the disc the title is "I'd Do Anything For Love" but he never sings "I'd", it's always "I would".

That's my take on it, anyway!

KebLou · 30 Oct 2006, 18:20

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Originally Posted by needmoremeat

Jim said on his blog it was meant to be Pig singular, but Meat sings it Pigs.
Just think of that as like AFL. On the disc the title is "I'd Do Anything For Love" but he never sings "I'd", it's always "I would".

That's my take on it, anyway!

I'd and I would is slightly different both versions have the same meaning. Changing something from singular to plural changes the meaning.

Bap · 30 Oct 2006, 18:59

Not neccaserially (SP?). If Pig is a metaphor for everyday people of Gotham city then that is is rounding up a collective of persons whom are being sterotyped.. So either Pigs or Pig can be used and mean the exact same thing.

needmoremeat · 30 Oct 2006, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Keb

I'd and I would is slightly different both versions have the same meaning. Changing something from singular to plural changes the meaning.

I know, I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that it's not the first time there's been something different on the song listing as to what is actually sung, nothing deeper than that

jcmoorehead · 30 Oct 2006, 19:57

Jim said on his Blog it was meant to be Land Of The Pig in a similar fashion to Year Of The Dragon or something like that. The theme of the song reminds me of the Pink Floyd album Animals. However they used Sheep, Pigs and Dogs as Metaphors.

Pudding · 31 Oct 2006, 01:19

I had this explain to me fully in a pub once by a teacher, and in short, it can be either Pig or Pigs, but Jim wrote the song as 'Pig'

Pud

mszee · 31 Oct 2006, 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

I had this explain to me fully in a pub once by a teacher, and in short, it can be either Pig or Pigs, but Jim wrote the song as 'Pig'

Pud

Thanks...I trust your knowledge...

christa · 31 Oct 2006, 23:10

I actually find this song quite offensive. Being a strict vegetarian its a bit below the belt for me! Sorry if i have offended anyone but thats just my opinion.

Peestie · 01 Nov 2006, 01:07

""In the Land of the PigS" is NOT SCARY! It connotes a bunch of pigs, even a nation of pigs! BUT--"LAND OF THE PIG" connotes ONE MYTHICALLY HUGE ICONIC ALL CONSUMING PIG! A SYMBOL OF ALL!!! IT IS SCARY! Scary to be "in the land of the pig." Not so scary to be in "the land of the pigs." Rather than go on about it, I KNOW its right. And it makes "THE BUTCHER IS KING" infinitely more frightening!"

That's from Steinman's blog.
So from that I take that it's not about the people being the "pigs", but that the leaders/gouvernment are "the Pig". But who is the butcher then? I'll have to go over these lyrics in more detail myself, some time...

Pudding · 01 Nov 2006, 02:00

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Originally Posted by christabales

I actually find this song quite offensive. Being a strict vegetarian its a bit below the belt for me! Sorry if i have offended anyone but thats just my opinion.

Do you find the name Meat Loaf offensive as well then? or have you scribbled out the name Meat from all your CD's and replaced it with Quorn?

Hmmm Quorn Loaf has a bit of a ring to it

Pud

mszee · 01 Nov 2006, 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

Do you find the name Meat Loaf offensive as well then? or have you scribbled out the name Meat from all your CD's and replaced it with Quorn?

Hmmm Quorn Loaf has a bit of a ring to it

Pud

And finally it's my turn...CHSIB!!!

rachelba · 01 Nov 2006, 11:57

If Meat did change his name to Quorn Loaf then at least the interviewers would have to come up with a fresh "funny" question instead of "Why do you call yourself Meat Loaf when you're a veggie?" !!!!!!!!!!!
By the way am I the only one who has difficulty reading the lyric from the CD book! I've put on my reading specs and still have to use a magnifying glass!!

christa · 01 Nov 2006, 23:38

The fact that Meat Loaf is a veggie says it all.

What I find offensive Pud, is the pigs squealing at the end. Is that ok with you?

Oh and by the way, I don't eat Quorn either but I do love my Meat Loaf.

**RadioMaster** · 01 Nov 2006, 23:43

according to a recent interview Meat isnt a vegetarian, he was for several years but for about 10 years not more.

29 Oct 2006, 21:05	#1
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	in the land of the pig - lyrics I absolutely dont get the LOTP lyrics who are THEY? and who are WE? Anybody knows the context? AFAIK it´s from the Batman musical, right?

29 Oct 2006, 21:09	#2
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	It's to do with the Gotham currupt policeforce I thought? "pig" being a slang term for the police - I'm unsure if that is used anywhere else in the world other than England lol.

29 Oct 2006, 21:13	#3
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,888	thats correct rj, you can read about it in jims blog. "pig is written to be the song of the corrupt bloodsuckers who run gotham city" it goes on... july 9th entry.

29 Oct 2006, 21:24	#4
Jeanie Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 996	I thought "they" refered to the government/establishment and "we" are the pigs, at the mercy of the "they.. the butcher/ government/establishment". Just my inturpetation of the song. :) J.

30 Oct 2006, 00:16	#5
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	The term pig in this song has nothing at all to do with the police. The song is sung by the 'power(s) that be' about the minions(people) who basically walk around with their head up their ass, who do as they're told and are easily fooled. The easiest way to explain it is, if you imagine Kim Jong Il (leader of North Korea) as the butcher and the ordinary North Koreans as pigs. Pud

30 Oct 2006, 10:47	#6
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	so they (their lives are truly meaningless) are the pig and we (are busy being blessed with all that we can take and pocket) are the butchers? so, we slaughter them? (cant you hear the slaughterhousebells) If I´m not wrong, then "the chosen one" (cant you hear the cosen one sing) would be Batman, right?

30 Oct 2006, 10:54	#7
Heli Daddy's little internet junkie Join Date: 29.01.2004 Location: Grimsby Posts: 4,596	You're all wrong..... ...it's about a little kid playing with his pork dinner, and pretending to be all high and mighty, while his little chippolarter sausages are the people of his mash and gravy city....god as if you didn't know that...

30 Oct 2006, 10:58	#8
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	well, another......interpretation...

30 Oct 2006, 14:33	#10
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Have another question...is it me or the title of the song is somehow garbled...it clearly sounds PIGS not PIG in the song...and if it is a singular pig the entire thing doesn't make sense

30 Oct 2006, 14:36	#11
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	the song is definitely called pig, but Meat sings pigs (it´s also in the booklet spelt as pigs) On the other hand.....on Jim´s demo, he sings clearly Land of the PIG........

30 Oct 2006, 16:21	#12
needmoremeat Mega Loafer Join Date: 23.11.2003 Location: Sunderland, UK Posts: 1,416	Jim said on his blog it was meant to be Pig singular, but Meat sings it Pigs. Just think of that as like AFL. On the disc the title is "I'd Do Anything For Love" but he never sings "I'd", it's always "I would". That's my take on it, anyway!

30 Oct 2006, 18:59	#14
Bap Super Loafer Join Date: 20.09.2004 Location: Wales! Posts: 608	Not neccaserially (SP?). If Pig is a metaphor for everyday people of Gotham city then that is is rounding up a collective of persons whom are being sterotyped.. So either Pigs or Pig can be used and mean the exact same thing.

30 Oct 2006, 19:57	#16
jcmoorehead Super Loafer Join Date: 09.04.2003 Location: Edinburgh, formerly Teesside Posts: 672	Jim said on his Blog it was meant to be Land Of The Pig in a similar fashion to Year Of The Dragon or something like that. The theme of the song reminds me of the Pink Floyd album Animals. However they used Sheep, Pigs and Dogs as Metaphors.

31 Oct 2006, 01:19	#17
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I had this explain to me fully in a pub once by a teacher, and in short, it can be either Pig or Pigs, but Jim wrote the song as 'Pig' Pud

31 Oct 2006, 23:10	#19
christa Super Loafer Join Date: 23.05.2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 663	I actually find this song quite offensive. Being a strict vegetarian its a bit below the belt for me! Sorry if i have offended anyone but thats just my opinion.

01 Nov 2006, 01:07	#20
Peestie Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 52	""In the Land of the PigS" is NOT SCARY! It connotes a bunch of pigs, even a nation of pigs! BUT--"LAND OF THE PIG" connotes ONE MYTHICALLY HUGE ICONIC ALL CONSUMING PIG! A SYMBOL OF ALL!!! IT IS SCARY! Scary to be "in the land of the pig." Not so scary to be in "the land of the pigs." Rather than go on about it, I KNOW its right. And it makes "THE BUTCHER IS KING" infinitely more frightening!" That's from Steinman's blog. So from that I take that it's not about the people being the "pigs", but that the leaders/gouvernment are "the Pig". But who is the butcher then? I'll have to go over these lyrics in more detail myself, some time...

01 Nov 2006, 11:57	#23
rachelba Senior Loafer Join Date: 15.11.2003 Location: Rotherham, South Yorks, England Posts: 195	If Meat did change his name to Quorn Loaf then at least the interviewers would have to come up with a fresh "funny" question instead of "Why do you call yourself Meat Loaf when you're a veggie?" !!!!!!!!!!! By the way am I the only one who has difficulty reading the lyric from the CD book! I've put on my reading specs and still have to use a magnifying glass!!

01 Nov 2006, 23:38	#24
christa Super Loafer Join Date: 23.05.2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 663	The fact that Meat Loaf is a veggie says it all. What I find offensive Pud, is the pigs squealing at the end. Is that ok with you? Oh and by the way, I don't eat Quorn either but I do love my Meat Loaf.

01 Nov 2006, 23:43	#25
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	according to a recent interview Meat isnt a vegetarian, he was for several years but for about 10 years not more.