Box set - Page 3

Bohemian · 25 Oct 2006, 03:04

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

There has to be such a version cause they needed material which Todd could cut down to what it is now.
Or do you think they sang it live to Todd and Todd told them how to sing it differently and they did?

The recordings from Bat as you and I and the rest of the world know them are not Todd's edits of something that existed on tape prior. They are Todd's sonic creations performed by Todd and Todd's band and a swag of the E Street band as well under the compositional direction of Steinman.

They probably DID sing it live to Todd, yes, and they probably also passed him a very bad quality live to tape demo for reference.

Or perhaps Todd simply recorded the live demo they performed for him. Who knows. Point is, none of this "evidence" bares any relation on the "length" of Paradise as it was conceived before it existed in a recorded state, not least of all becaue as it wasn't recorded it HAD no exact length. It didn't exist on record and hadn't been arranged and performed in a stage show.

None of your beautiful reasons as to why the story must be true make any sense. You are simply saying that the songs MUST have been longer before they were recorded for bat and therefore paradise was 27 minutes. That's absolute nonsence.

Oh, by the way, have you heard Bat out of Hell as it was performed in Neverland? It's actually shorter.

samurai7 · 25 Oct 2006, 04:21

Exactly.

Vickip · 25 Oct 2006, 05:52

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Originally Posted by ray-loaf

the interview can be heard here, www.lincsfm.co.uk
click on the 'weekly podcast'. can listen online. its about 3/4 towards the end, just move the bar along to skip the other drivel, lol
thanks for the welcome by the way. oh yes, aint the album great?

Excellent !! Thank you very much

Vicki

**RadioMaster** · 25 Oct 2006, 10:02

I´ll stay of this arguement as it takes us waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic now, if you want we can continue it in PM, but the box set thread is really not the place for it.

DazLoaf01 · 30 Oct 2006, 17:45

In the most recent radio interview as downloadable on thenakedwire, Meat mentions the boxset again, saying that there are about 4-5 original demos for Bat1 that will feature, and that there are to be around 5 new songs too - 2 of which he already knows he's going to record. He also wants guitarist Steve Luthaker on the new tracks.

**RadioMaster** · 30 Oct 2006, 17:57

5 new songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that´s nearly as much as on booh!!

Meat + Jim

+ demos!

A DREAM COMES TRUE!!!

DazLoaf01 · 30 Oct 2006, 18:00

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

5 new songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that´s nearly as much as on booh!!

Meat + Jim

+ demos!

A DREAM COMES TRUE!!!

Indeed, should be fantastic. I just hope Jim is involved with the new songs this time though.

**RadioMaster** · 30 Oct 2006, 18:14

will that be a demos+booh+bat2+bat3+new songs box set or just a demos+new songs box, which I´d prefer

Lord Kagan · 30 Oct 2006, 18:47

Excellent news

DazLoaf01 · 30 Oct 2006, 20:08

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

will that be a demos+booh+bat2+bat3+new songs box set or just a demos+new songs box, which I´d prefer

On the radio show, the DJ asked if the boxset would contain "all of them" to which Meat replied "yeah".... but I dunno, there are 2/3 record companies who have all got to agree on putting out one product lol. I'd rather have the boxset just with the unreleaased material, so it becomes a "companion" piece to the albums.

**RadioMaster** · 30 Oct 2006, 20:48

yep my thoughts too

Ma.Ra · 01 Nov 2006, 14:17

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Originally Posted by DazLoaf01

On the radio show, the DJ asked if the boxset would contain "all of them" to which Meat replied "yeah".... but I dunno, there are 2/3 record companies who have all got to agree on putting out one product lol. I'd rather have the boxset just with the unreleaased material, so it becomes a "companion" piece to the albums.

Dont' see why the other record companies should be against a set-box. IMO you can make hell of money with set-boxes (->Queen best of box).

**RadioMaster** · 01 Nov 2006, 15:21

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Originally Posted by macrapper

Dont' see why the other record companies should be against a set-box. IMO you can make hell of money with set-boxes (->Queen best of box).

I´m not to keen about the thing with the Queen box set, but appearantly there must have been problems too, cause afaik it was never released in Germany, I had to buy it from the UK.

Think of the problems with Best of and the BBIS songs....it´s the same here..

Ma.Ra · 01 Nov 2006, 16:01

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

I´m not to keen about the thing with the Queen box set, but appearantly there must have been problems too, cause afaik it was never released in Germany, I had to buy it from the UK.

Think of the problems with Best of and the BBIS songs....it´s the same here..

What?

Never released in Germany? Here it will be released more or less all 2 years!

**RadioMaster** · 01 Nov 2006, 17:44

if we´re talking about the same thing (Best of I-III in a silver case) then not AFAIK, I had to order it from amazon.co.uk.
Although I´m not sure, maybe they just didnt sell it on amazon.de and the shops where I was looking.

Ma.Ra · 01 Nov 2006, 19:20

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

if we´re talking about the same thing (Best of I-III in a silver case) then not AFAIK, I had to order it from amazon.co.uk.
Although I´m not sure, maybe they just didnt sell it on amazon.de and the shops where I was looking.

OMG go in "real" shops

DazLoaf01 · 01 Nov 2006, 22:29

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Originally Posted by macrapper

Dont' see why the other record companies should be against a set-box. IMO you can make hell of money with set-boxes (->Queen best of box).

Queen own their whole catalogue, Meat alas doesn't as far as I know. Hense why there are many many ML unortharised compilation albums.

Bohemian · 02 Nov 2006, 07:45

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Originally Posted by DazLoaf01

In the most recent radio interview as downloadable on thenakedwire, Meat mentions the boxset again, saying that there are about 4-5 original demos for Bat1 that will feature, and that there are to be around 5 new songs too - 2 of which he already knows he's going to record. He also wants guitarist Steve Luthaker on the new tracks.

Sweet, I want Steve Lukather playing on the new songs as well. We'll be getting some more than decent guitar solos on this latest batch of stuff with Lukather on board...

...mind you I'm not a big Toto fan. But play he certainly can.

25 Oct 2006, 04:21	#52
samurai7 Rock Star Join Date: 09.05.2005 Location: The future... Posts: 2,928	Exactly.

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RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I´ll stay of this arguement as it takes us waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic now, if you want we can continue it in PM, but the box set thread is really not the place for it.

30 Oct 2006, 17:45	#55
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	In the most recent radio interview as downloadable on thenakedwire, Meat mentions the boxset again, saying that there are about 4-5 original demos for Bat1 that will feature, and that there are to be around 5 new songs too - 2 of which he already knows he's going to record. He also wants guitarist Steve Luthaker on the new tracks.

30 Oct 2006, 17:57	#56
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	5 new songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that´s nearly as much as on booh!! Meat + Jim + demos! A DREAM COMES TRUE!!!

30 Oct 2006, 18:14	#58
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	will that be a demos+booh+bat2+bat3+new songs box set or just a demos+new songs box, which I´d prefer

30 Oct 2006, 18:47	#59
Lord Kagan On the other hand, You have different fingers Join Date: 17.05.2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 8,833	Excellent news

30 Oct 2006, 20:48	#61
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	yep my thoughts too

01 Nov 2006, 17:44	#65
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	if we´re talking about the same thing (Best of I-III in a silver case) then not AFAIK, I had to order it from amazon.co.uk. Although I´m not sure, maybe they just didnt sell it on amazon.de and the shops where I was looking.