Jim's injunction against Meat

RichieBoy · 05 May 2004, 03:32

Right its just gone half two, feeling very tired but wanted to pose a question to the rest of you:

The song "Its all coming back to me now" sang by Celine Dion written by Jim Steinman, whilst randomly clicking around a few sites tonight i found out that Meat did originally want to record this song, but Jim had injunction put against him because he thought the song would be better sung by a woman.

Having pondered Jim's reasoning, then listening to the song a couple of times I'm not sure I reckon Meat could have possibly put a bit more passion into it?

Any way there's my question for the day going to get some shut eye, cheers,

Rich Scully

By the way not sure if this needs to be moved to Tyre Tracks - will let you decide nice admin people!

heat · 05 May 2004, 08:09

I've always thought that Meat should have sang this - lets face it - CELINE DION???????

Crystal Eyes · 05 May 2004, 08:49

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Celine Dion. She sings the song well. If Meat Loaf were to sing it I think it would put a different sound to it.

Gez · 05 May 2004, 09:47

The original one on 'Original Sin' CD is by far the best version I've heard!!
.....Celion Dione

concrete shoes and a wee boat trip

evil nickname · 05 May 2004, 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry

Celion Dione

concrete shoes and a wee boat trip

Didn't she do that boattrip once? Remember what happened to that ship?

But I agree, the version by Pandora's Box is much better than Celine's version. I don't think her version is that bad, but it could have been a lot better.
As for Meat singing it: I hope it won't happen. Why? Let's face it, the only album it could appear on is BOOH3. And I want all new songs on that one. I don't need another version of IACBTMN, since there is already a 'perfect' version of it.

*AndyK* · 05 May 2004, 20:42

The injunction was nothing more than a rumour to the best of my knowledge.

Shuffling this over to TTaBH

airhead · 07 May 2004, 22:04

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RichieBoy · 09 May 2004, 00:56

Found on the VH1 website:

Quote:

When Celine did my song "It's All Coming Back To Me Now," she did a great vocal, but she didn't own it.

my song ????????????????

Has any one ever heard Meat sing this?

Its annoying me now - either way, if Jim did or didn't stop him singing it I just wanna hear him sing it!!!!!!!!!!!

evil nickname · 09 May 2004, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieBoy

my song ????????????????

O, he might have said that (and he apperently did), but as we all know, Meat has a bit of a reputation to "bend" the truth.

Michel · 11 May 2004, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry

Celion Dione

concrete shoes and a wee boat trip

Didn't she do that boattrip once? Remember what happened to that ship?

But I agree, the version by Pandora's Box is much better than Celine's version. I don't think her version is that bad, but it could have been a lot better.
As for Meat singing it: I hope it won't happen. Why? Let's face it, the only album it could appear on is BOOH3. And I want all new songs on that one. I don't need another version of IACBTMN, since there is already a 'perfect' version of it.

But I think Meat can sing a more perfect version of this song.

Daphne24 · 11 May 2004, 20:48

I have to go with Gerry and others on this one - I think the Pandora's Box version is the ultimate version. I simply can't imagine anyone doing it better, and that includes Meat. As for him refering to it as his song, it seems that I've heard him refer to Jim's songs that way before and it's a bit annoying in my book. I know I'm prejudiced toward songwriters, but I don't see how he can take the credit - credit for excellent versions of Jim's songs, yes; credit for the songs themselves, no.

As for the injuntion, I'm sure I've seen Jim refer to it somewhere - not that he isn't above a little hyperbole himself, but it wouldn't surprise me either. He has also refered to his songs as his "children" and I can imagine him going to that length to protect one of them.

meatwka · 14 Jul 2004, 01:14

i agree with Gerry an`the others, Pandora's Box is the best version.

Would be interestin 2 c if meat could do it beta and how much o a difference ther woul b!!'

Pudding · 14 Jul 2004, 01:36

Didn't know this topic was around but here's my two penneth.

If Jim did have an injunction put against Meat NOT to sing this song then rightly so. Jim knows how a song should sound and by whom and if he thinks Meats voice isn't upto it or he's the wrong sex then fair enough. It's probably jealousy speaking on Meats part because the song was such a huge hit.

I think Meat would crucify this song because it requires the high notes Meat can't quite reach anymore and although we all have our own opinions about Miss Dion she didn't do that bad a job but not as good as Pandora's Box though.

Also just to side with Miss Dion on another song. After hearing her rendition of Is Nothing Sacred, I think her version is far better than Meats.

Pud

Steinfan1978 · 14 Jul 2004, 09:31

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Also just to side with Miss Dion on another song. After hearing her rendition of Is Nothing Sacred, I think her version is far better than Meats.

Pud

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I soooo agree with you on that... it still sends shivers down my spine...
Though I do enjoy the duet Meat and Patti made of it later...

Klasien

Pudding · 14 Jul 2004, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steinfan1978

Quote:

Also just to side with Miss Dion on another song. After hearing her rendition of Is Nothing Sacred, I think her version is far better than Meats.

Pud

I soooo agree with you on that... it still sends shivers down my spine...
Though I do enjoy the duet Meat and Patti made of it later...

Klasien

You might want to remove your forward slash / before your top [quote] and then the whole quoting thing works better

IDon't get me wrong I like Meats and Patti's but I like Celine's better.

Pud

Steinfan1978 · 14 Jul 2004, 13:27

Thanks pud... will do next time...

Klasien

RSG · 14 Jul 2004, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steinfan1978

Thanks pud... will do next time...

Klasien

I just highlight what I want, quoted, bolded, italiced, and just clcik the button. :P

Pudding · 15 Jul 2004, 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG

I just highlight what I want, quoted, bolded, italiced, and just clcik the button. :P

Yeah, that'd probably work even better.

Pud

AndrewG · 15 Jul 2004, 17:57

Yeah I think the original version is better than Celine's also.
I think Celine Dion can sing very well but I think she "shouted" the words in that version a bit too much.

Jim should just write new songs so that his fans cant debate too much about this!

Having said that the gems he composes are worthy of several outings I suppose.

Anyway I hope he is doing well anyway and composing away. I always think of him as some kind of possessed Rock and Roll version of Mozart!

05 May 2004, 03:32	#1
RichieBoy Loafer Join Date: 28.05.2003 Location: Lincoln Lincolnshire. UK Posts: 78	Jim's injunction against Meat Right its just gone half two, feeling very tired but wanted to pose a question to the rest of you: The song "Its all coming back to me now" sang by Celine Dion written by Jim Steinman, whilst randomly clicking around a few sites tonight i found out that Meat did originally want to record this song, but Jim had injunction put against him because he thought the song would be better sung by a woman. Having pondered Jim's reasoning, then listening to the song a couple of times I'm not sure I reckon Meat could have possibly put a bit more passion into it? Any way there's my question for the day going to get some shut eye, cheers, Rich Scully By the way not sure if this needs to be moved to Tyre Tracks - will let you decide nice admin people!

05 May 2004, 08:09	#2
heat Rampant Loafer... Join Date: 29.07.2002 Location: welshy wales Posts: 5,706	I've always thought that Meat should have sang this - lets face it - CELINE DION???????

05 May 2004, 08:49	#3
Crystal Eyes Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: In the clouds Posts: 649	There is absolutely nothing wrong with Celine Dion. She sings the song well. If Meat Loaf were to sing it I think it would put a different sound to it.

05 May 2004, 09:47	#4
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	The original one on 'Original Sin' CD is by far the best version I've heard!! .....Celion Dione concrete shoes and a wee boat trip

05 May 2004, 20:42	#6
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	The injunction was nothing more than a rumour to the best of my knowledge. Shuffling this over to TTaBH

07 May 2004, 22:04	#7
airhead the enchanted spleen Join Date: 12.02.2004 Location: ok, you see that sweet little cottage? I live next door in the nuthouse. Posts: 1,909	Eeeeevery niiight in my dreeeeams... I seeeeeee youuuu, i feeeeel youuuuu... Yeah, wanna trip on the dinghy club?

11 May 2004, 20:48	#11
Daphne24 Rookie Join Date: 01.03.2004 Posts: 14	I have to go with Gerry and others on this one - I think the Pandora's Box version is the ultimate version. I simply can't imagine anyone doing it better, and that includes Meat. As for him refering to it as his song, it seems that I've heard him refer to Jim's songs that way before and it's a bit annoying in my book. I know I'm prejudiced toward songwriters, but I don't see how he can take the credit - credit for excellent versions of Jim's songs, yes; credit for the songs themselves, no. As for the injuntion, I'm sure I've seen Jim refer to it somewhere - not that he isn't above a little hyperbole himself, but it wouldn't surprise me either. He has also refered to his songs as his "children" and I can imagine him going to that length to protect one of them.

14 Jul 2004, 01:14	#12
meatwka Senior Loafer Join Date: 21.04.2003 Location: edinburgh Posts: 121	i agree with Gerry an`the others, Pandora's Box is the best version. Would be interestin 2 c if meat could do it beta and how much o a difference ther woul b!!'

14 Jul 2004, 01:36	#13
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Didn't know this topic was around but here's my two penneth. If Jim did have an injunction put against Meat NOT to sing this song then rightly so. Jim knows how a song should sound and by whom and if he thinks Meats voice isn't upto it or he's the wrong sex then fair enough. It's probably jealousy speaking on Meats part because the song was such a huge hit. I think Meat would crucify this song because it requires the high notes Meat can't quite reach anymore and although we all have our own opinions about Miss Dion she didn't do that bad a job but not as good as Pandora's Box though. Also just to side with Miss Dion on another song. After hearing her rendition of Is Nothing Sacred, I think her version is far better than Meats. Pud

14 Jul 2004, 09:31	#14
Steinfan1978 Super Loafer Join Date: 11.11.2003 Posts: 303	[/qoute] Also just to side with Miss Dion on another song. After hearing her rendition of Is Nothing Sacred, I think her version is far better than Meats. Pud [/quote] I soooo agree with you on that... it still sends shivers down my spine... Though I do enjoy the duet Meat and Patti made of it later... Klasien

14 Jul 2004, 13:27	#16
Steinfan1978 Super Loafer Join Date: 11.11.2003 Posts: 303	Thanks pud... will do next time... Klasien

15 Jul 2004, 17:57	#19
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,080	Yeah I think the original version is better than Celine's also. I think Celine Dion can sing very well but I think she "shouted" the words in that version a bit too much. Jim should just write new songs so that his fans cant debate too much about this! Having said that the gems he composes are worthy of several outings I suppose. Anyway I hope he is doing well anyway and composing away. I always think of him as some kind of possessed Rock and Roll version of Mozart!