6. Paradise By The Dashboard Light

White of High · 18 Aug 2002, 23:30

This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!!

Paradise By The Dashboard Light (8/10)

I have never been in Meat Loaf concert, but I've got the video of song and some live version. When I have heard this song first I hated. But with picture is fantastic. If you can image the moment it will be great. On the BOOH album it's not so good, but in Bats Out Of Hell or Live Around The World is good. Very-very funny. The music isn't very good, but it's not matter. You have to enjoy the feeling...

My score: in album 8
in concert 10

Average: 9.71 (339.75/35) [07/08/05]

Tim · 19 Aug 2002, 08:40

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Very-very funny. The music isn't very good, but it's not matter.

The music isn't very good? The music is superb! It's great! It's a fantastic, song, great lyrics, an ultimate love song!
On the BOOH album it is already great, but the live versions are even better. Specially the fight between ML and now Patti.

It is your opinion, but i think you must think it over again cause i would give Paradise an 11 out of 10, if that was possible. This is THE song. Everyone knows it.

Michel · 19 Aug 2002, 18:25

Everybody knows this song, that's why it is great. Its a song with a great impact, a great rock and roll song. I think Patti is the best opposite woman for this song.
The fight at the end on live versions is very great.

The only thing I hate is that some people cut this song.

I will give it a 8/9

Premacy · 19 Aug 2002, 19:25

I really don't get this. Paradise is the best known song all over the world, its a timeless song full of good music and voices. I must agree with Tim that when it was possible i'd even give it a 11 out of 10, or perhaps very more.

Still it's your opinion so i can't do much about it, not more than to make you chance your opinion and say that you're really wrong...

**The Flying Mouse** · 19 Aug 2002, 21:13

Paradise ROCKS.
The music is great (especially the intro),pure rock and roll.
It's really funny to think of this guy getting more and more frustrated (Meat puts the desperation into the voice beautifully),so they get married and spend the rest of their lives cursing each other to hell.
I like the originallity of the concept,as far as I know nobody else has coverd this theme.
It's a funny (and horrible) thought that Paradise very nearly didn't make onto the album.No one could agree on the mix,until John Jensen mixed it.
10/10
P.S. The live versions are great.The arguments get better and better.

Peat Loaf · 12 Apr 2003, 03:47

White you got 3 diff songs in one here what more do you want LoL

1000/1000

Tim · 12 Apr 2003, 13:38

Peat Loaf, you took the words right out of my mouth!!

Cloggy · 12 Apr 2003, 23:06

Well this has to be a 10/10

Bart · 13 Apr 2003, 09:27

Hehehehe, the music isn't very good. very funny. the piano parts are extra ordinary, Superb. The melody is so, just so great. All 3 parts, i am sorry, 4 parts are great melodys. This song is broadcasted too much on the Dutch radio, it is really an overkill here. Nevertheless, this is the one i remember from my childhood, when my older sister played it everyday.
10/10.

JacenSolo · 21 Apr 2003, 23:20

Great song, timeless story, we can all relate to it, what else can i say??
My Score : 10

jcmoorehead · 21 Apr 2003, 23:27

Excellant Song 10/10

Bart · 22 Apr 2003, 22:49

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Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

:I like the originallity of the concept,as far as I know nobody else has coverd this theme.

Two Dutchies covered the song (paul de leeuw and sugar lee hooper)

Cloggy · 22 Apr 2003, 22:58

You ~~~~ing kidding me, when did they pull that?

evil nickname · 22 Apr 2003, 23:00

Would I make myself hugely impopular by saying that I really can't stand Paradise anymore? I think its hugely overrated and overplayed, and I wouldn't mind if it got skipped from the setlist in favor of, let's say, A Kiss... and For Crying Out Loud... but that is never going to happen, since Meat said in an interview with some dutch newspaper (A.D. I think) it is the ultimate Meat Loaf song and they still enjoy playing it... (or something along those lines -- please note: not an exact quote)

If only I could still enjoy listening it... heard it too many times, and mostly, I'm skipping to FCOL....

William

[ps: I'll have a blast with Paradise tomorrowinght anyway, but please... something else next time, okay?]

NP: Empyrium - ...A Wintersunset - 02 - Under Dreamskies

Cloggy · 22 Apr 2003, 23:10

It's not just a song, it's a piece of history.

Name any song thats 25 years old or older that still gets played on radio, tv and bars and is still liked by the new generation as well as the older generation. A song that still will be in the top 100 in the upcoming 25 years.

There are not many songs that cover all of the above. This song will never be forgotten. (As the new songs of today are forgotten after 2 months).

The only song that comes close is Bohemian Raphsody (or whatever spelling is ;p and some Rolling Stones songs).

:)

evil nickname · 22 Apr 2003, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

It's not just a song, it's a piece of history.

I'm not disputing that, I'm just trying to make the point that I, personally, think it's rather overrated and hugely overplayed. Whenever people find out I like Meat Loaf, they're like "ooh, wait... Paradise By the Dashboard Light" and then I'm like... yeah sure, but he has lots and lots of better songs. To be honest, if I were to rank the song on BOOH, Paradise would come in 6th place, before 2 out of 3.

There's a whole lot more to Meat than just Paradise, Took the Words, Anything for love and I'd lie for you (and you're lucky if you run into someone (non-hardcore-loafer, that is) who knows any other song) and, well, maybe its just me... :-) ...but then that's my problem, and I just don't really like Paradise, so there you have it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloggy

The only song that comes close is Bohemian Raphsody (or whatever spelling is ;p and some Rolling Stones songs).

on Bohemian Rhapsody I have a slightly different view, I really like that one, musically and lyrically, but it's overplayed too....

William

Empyrium - ...A Wintersunset - 06 - Ordain'd To Thee [/i]

Bart · 23 Apr 2003, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Cloggy

You [...] kidding me, when did they pull that?

In 1993. On the album with the hit single Paul de Leeuw covered from Laura Pausini.

Vickip · 23 Apr 2003, 02:39

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Originally Posted by Tim

Quote:

Very-very funny. The music isn't very good, but it's not matter.

The music isn't very good? The music is superb! It's great! It's a fantastic, song, great lyrics, an ultimate love song!
On the BOOH album it is already great, but the live versions are even better. Specially the fight between ML and now Patti.

It is your opinion, but i think you must think it over again cause i would give Paradise an 11 out of 10, if that was possible. This is THE song. Everyone knows it.

It's got to be higher than 11

How high can we go?

Watching Meat and Patti sing Paradise on VH1 Storytellers is what got me hooked on his music in the first place :) I didn't even know who he was until I saw the show .. and now I'm having a ball making up for lost time.

I agree ... you've got to see Paradise live to really enjoy it. I'll never forget last year when I went to see him in New Brunswick, New Jersey. I was sitting right in front of the stage, off to the right. When they started the makeout scene, Patti pretended to brush him off and he started walking to our side of the stage. I stood up right away .... Meat saw me standing there, pointed and said to Patti "that one wants me". It was such a riot ... I'll never forget the look on either his or Patti's faces when he stood there waving his arms, trying to get me to come up on stage with him

Yes .. for a brief seconds I was the "other woman" in Paradise !!

Vicki

ChoccyBat · 23 Apr 2003, 03:01

I saw Paradise in Liverpool in summer fun tour and the paramedics were dancing in the aisles. Also it came on in the pub back home once on a saturday night full of kids and the place went crazy!

evil nickname · 23 Apr 2003, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Bart

In 1993. On the album with the hit single Paul de Leeuw covered from Laura Pausini.

1993 may be correct, but the album was "Voor U, Majesteit" (For You, Majesty) and he did it with Imca Marina.... I have it on tape somewhere....

"Ik Wil Niet Dat Je Liegt" (the Laura Pausini cover) was on another album, "ParaCDmol" I think its called

Bart · 23 Apr 2003, 12:51

Yeah indeed, you are right, i was wrong. Well, i was in the right direction

He Vicky: great story

**The Flying Mouse** · 23 Apr 2003, 13:21

Hi Bart.
I think you misunderstood me before

.
I didn't mean that nobody had coverd the song (although what you said was a suprise for me),but that no other writter I can think of has coverd the subject of getting married for the wrong reason and spending the rest of your lives hating each other.But that is terrible news that Paradise has been coverd

.Anyone got a noose?

I understand what William (by the way,welcome to the forums) is trying to say.In my job I meet a lot of die hard Meat Loaf fans

who for some reason are amazed when I tell them there is actually a Bat II

.
It is a shame when great songs suffer from overkill.But without that much exposure new generations might never learn about it.If you ask every Meat Loaf fan what was yout first Meat song?,you would not get many different answers.
I still enjoy Paradise (thankfully) but there are songs by other people which I though got real old real quick

.

heat · 11 May 2003, 21:40

I love this one - loads of great memories associated with it, but also what a utterly fantastic song - i just love it!!!

9/10

Heat
xxx

evil nickname · 11 May 2003, 22:18

STOP RIGHT THERE!

Actually, there is another cover version of Paradise by the Frisian (region of the Netherlands) group called De Kast. It's in het Fries (as we call it) and lyrics (both in Fries and Dutch) can be found here, amonst places.

Since I utterly detest that band (and as I said before, don't go completely nuts for Paradise) I can't say I like this version, but if you feel like tracking it down... hunt ahead!

QT · 11 Jun 2003, 20:15

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Originally Posted by evil nickname

STOP RIGHT THERE!

Actually, there is another cover version of Paradise by the Frisian (region of the Netherlands) group called De Kast. It's in het Fries (as we call it) and lyrics (both in Fries and Dutch) can be found here, amonst places.

Since I utterly detest that band (and as I said before, don't go completely nuts for Paradise) I can't say I like this version, but if you feel like tracking it down... hunt ahead!

Nice: A translation in "Fries". Only by read the lyrics I think this is better than the Paul de Leeuw-version. Than version is too short and the lyrics are translated, but the humor and the details of the lyrics are dissappeared

Probably it's nearly impossible to make a good translation from a song with Steinman-lyrics, but it seems the "De Kast"-translation is quite good!

18 Aug 2002, 23:30	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	6. Paradise By The Dashboard Light This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!! Paradise By The Dashboard Light (8/10) I have never been in Meat Loaf concert, but I've got the video of song and some live version. When I have heard this song first I hated. But with picture is fantastic. If you can image the moment it will be great. On the BOOH album it's not so good, but in Bats Out Of Hell or Live Around The World is good. Very-very funny. The music isn't very good, but it's not matter. You have to enjoy the feeling... My score: in album 8 in concert 10 Average: 9.71 (339.75/35) [07/08/05] Last edited by White of High; 07 Aug 2005 at 18:28.

19 Aug 2002, 18:25	#3
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	Everybody knows this song, that's why it is great. Its a song with a great impact, a great rock and roll song. I think Patti is the best opposite woman for this song. The fight at the end on live versions is very great. The only thing I hate is that some people cut this song. I will give it a 8/9

19 Aug 2002, 19:25	#4
Premacy Rookie Join Date: 01.06.2002 Location: Stadskanaal Posts: 20	I really don't get this. Paradise is the best known song all over the world, its a timeless song full of good music and voices. I must agree with Tim that when it was possible i'd even give it a 11 out of 10, or perhaps very more. Still it's your opinion so i can't do much about it, not more than to make you chance your opinion and say that you're really wrong...

19 Aug 2002, 21:13	#5
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Paradise ROCKS. The music is great (especially the intro),pure rock and roll. It's really funny to think of this guy getting more and more frustrated (Meat puts the desperation into the voice beautifully),so they get married and spend the rest of their lives cursing each other to hell. I like the originallity of the concept,as far as I know nobody else has coverd this theme. It's a funny (and horrible) thought that Paradise very nearly didn't make onto the album.No one could agree on the mix,until John Jensen mixed it. 10/10 P.S. The live versions are great.The arguments get better and better.

12 Apr 2003, 03:47	#6
Peat Loaf Senior Loafer Join Date: 03.04.2003 Location: Scotland UK Posts: 156	White you got 3 diff songs in one here what more do you want LoL 1000/1000

12 Apr 2003, 13:38	#7
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Peat Loaf, you took the words right out of my mouth!!

12 Apr 2003, 23:06	#8
Cloggy Super Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 298	Well this has to be a 10/10

13 Apr 2003, 09:27	#9
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Hehehehe, the music isn't very good. very funny. the piano parts are extra ordinary, Superb. The melody is so, just so great. All 3 parts, i am sorry, 4 parts are great melodys. This song is broadcasted too much on the Dutch radio, it is really an overkill here. Nevertheless, this is the one i remember from my childhood, when my older sister played it everyday. 10/10.

21 Apr 2003, 23:20	#10
JacenSolo Loafer Join Date: 19.04.2003 Location: Dallas (birthplace of Meat Loaf) Posts: 58	Great song, timeless story, we can all relate to it, what else can i say?? My Score : 10

21 Apr 2003, 23:27	#11
jcmoorehead Super Loafer Join Date: 09.04.2003 Location: Edinburgh, formerly Teesside Posts: 672	Excellant Song 10/10

22 Apr 2003, 22:58	#13
Cloggy Super Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 298	You ~~~~ing kidding me, when did they pull that?

22 Apr 2003, 23:00	#14
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	Would I make myself hugely impopular by saying that I really can't stand Paradise anymore? I think its hugely overrated and overplayed, and I wouldn't mind if it got skipped from the setlist in favor of, let's say, A Kiss... and For Crying Out Loud... but that is never going to happen, since Meat said in an interview with some dutch newspaper (A.D. I think) it is the ultimate Meat Loaf song and they still enjoy playing it... (or something along those lines -- please note: not an exact quote) If only I could still enjoy listening it... heard it too many times, and mostly, I'm skipping to FCOL.... William [ps: I'll have a blast with Paradise tomorrowinght anyway, but please... something else next time, okay?] NP: Empyrium - ...A Wintersunset - 02 - Under Dreamskies

22 Apr 2003, 23:10	#15
Cloggy Super Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 298	It's not just a song, it's a piece of history. Name any song thats 25 years old or older that still gets played on radio, tv and bars and is still liked by the new generation as well as the older generation. A song that still will be in the top 100 in the upcoming 25 years. There are not many songs that cover all of the above. This song will never be forgotten. (As the new songs of today are forgotten after 2 months). The only song that comes close is Bohemian Raphsody (or whatever spelling is ;p and some Rolling Stones songs). :)

23 Apr 2003, 03:01	#19
ChoccyBat Yorkie Join Date: 27.07.2002 Location: York Posts: 415	I saw Paradise in Liverpool in summer fun tour and the paramedics were dancing in the aisles. Also it came on in the pub back home once on a saturday night full of kids and the place went crazy!

23 Apr 2003, 12:51	#21
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Yeah indeed, you are right, i was wrong. Well, i was in the right direction He Vicky: great story

23 Apr 2003, 13:21	#22
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Hi Bart. I think you misunderstood me before . I didn't mean that nobody had coverd the song (although what you said was a suprise for me),but that no other writter I can think of has coverd the subject of getting married for the wrong reason and spending the rest of your lives hating each other.But that is terrible news that Paradise has been coverd .Anyone got a noose? I understand what William (by the way,welcome to the forums) is trying to say.In my job I meet a lot of die hard Meat Loaf fans who for some reason are amazed when I tell them there is actually a Bat II . It is a shame when great songs suffer from overkill.But without that much exposure new generations might never learn about it.If you ask every Meat Loaf fan what was yout first Meat song?,you would not get many different answers. I still enjoy Paradise (thankfully) but there are songs by other people which I though got real old real quick .

11 May 2003, 21:40	#23
heat Rampant Loafer... Join Date: 29.07.2002 Location: welshy wales Posts: 5,706	I love this one - loads of great memories associated with it, but also what a utterly fantastic song - i just love it!!! 9/10 Heat xxx

11 May 2003, 22:18	#24
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	STOP RIGHT THERE! Actually, there is another cover version of Paradise by the Frisian (region of the Netherlands) group called De Kast. It's in het Fries (as we call it) and lyrics (both in Fries and Dutch) can be found here, amonst places. Since I utterly detest that band (and as I said before, don't go completely nuts for Paradise) I can't say I like this version, but if you feel like tracking it down... hunt ahead!