beacon dvd

greg · 13 Dec 2014, 16:09

I have worn my beacon meat loaf dvd out . Anyone know where i can buzz a new one from

Wario · 16 Dec 2014, 22:19

No need I remastered it and added then cut songs:

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Breeze · 17 Dec 2014, 01:05

sadly it says it is not available in my country, the ole usa.

greg · 17 Dec 2014, 14:53

Great but i won't it on a disc not got my pc no. More

anotherday · 17 Dec 2014, 20:10

Yeah..I can't actually VIEW this in the US either…Ummmmmmmmm

Adje · 17 Dec 2014, 23:42

Perhaps one of these then. The first is from my original video source

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anotherday · 18 Dec 2014, 01:18

Thank YOU!

Elijah's way · 18 Dec 2014, 14:36

I don't understand why these amazing concerts haven't been released on DVD

Evil One · 18 Dec 2014, 18:22

Money

anotherday · 18 Dec 2014, 23:03

Probably because the amount of money to be made VS the amount of money to make them into DVD/Blu RAY is too small.

loaferman61 · 19 Dec 2014, 21:30

Unfortunately many of Meat's best filmed shows were done for Viacom (VH1) and I'm sure that plays some role meanwhile stuff like ConcertOne filmed is made available which is not the same quality as VH-1 although much more recent.

Meat is one of the few artists with DVD's out which while fine are not the best material available IMO.

Evil One · 19 Dec 2014, 23:18

Meat posted on here a couple of years ago that they wanted to release these concerts but didn't offer him enough money so he said no.

anotherday · 19 Dec 2014, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

Meat posted on here a couple of years ago that they wanted to release these concerts but didn't offer him enough money so he said no.

Well thats

Adje · 21 Dec 2014, 02:40

Yup, together with 'the History of Meat Loaf' I'd love to have the full Beacon show on DVD. Of course there are a few other nice televised shows but those two are my personal favorites. (of the tv broadcasted concerts, that is)

Evil One · 21 Dec 2014, 13:23

I wouldn't say no if they were released on DVD, but they're not at the top of my list. In Meat's collection he has professionally filmed shows from the Bat 2, Born To Rock and Very Best Of tours.

I'd rather these get released as:

a) I've already seen the MTV shows
b) They are full concerts, not shortened promo shows
c) They feature large arenas with thousands of fans instead of small theatres and a few hundred fans

Adje · 21 Dec 2014, 13:36

I obviously agree 100%. But I was merely talking about televised shows.

Even if you look at 'single cam' recordings by Meat's crew there must be some real treasures in the vault of the pre-Bat 2 area. Toad's Place is a perfect example. And I think the recordings only got better since 1992. But I would even love if we got another 'Toad'-like concert! Now that's not too much to ask, is it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

I wouldn't say no if they were released on DVD, but they're not at the top of my list. In Meat's collection he has professionally filmed shows from the Bat 2, Born To Rock and Very Best Of tours.

I'd rather these get released as:

a) I've already seen the MTV shows
b) They are full concerts, not shortened promo shows
c) They feature large arenas with thousands of fans instead of small theatres and a few hundred fans

Evil One · 21 Dec 2014, 14:04

I'd settle for Toad's Place in stereo.

loaferman61 · 22 Dec 2014, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

I wouldn't say no if they were released on DVD, but they're not at the top of my list. In Meat's collection he has professionally filmed shows from the Bat 2, Born To Rock and Very Best Of tours.

I'd rather these get released as:

a) I've already seen the MTV shows
b) They are full concerts, not shortened promo shows
c) They feature large arenas with thousands of fans instead of small theatres and a few hundred fans

I would welcome anything "new" (to us), like Adje I was referring to televised shows because The Hard Rock, Beacon, and History were all filmed (and well-filmed) by or for Viacom (VH-1, etc.) so the money is no doubt an issue. But these shows were better filmed than the job Concertone did - am I glad we got that DVD ... yes, did the company do a good job - not really.

Most artists seem to have their best available shows out on DVD, but with Meat we have stuff like The Original Tour and Guilty Pleasures which was not him at his very best at least IMO. The Symphony Disc was good and the songs on Storytellers were well done though.
I just would like to have those VH-1 shows in top available quality they were done in the 90's and look better than the GP dvd did to me.

Evil One · 24 Dec 2014, 12:37

In Meat Loaf's defense I doubt he planned on being ill for all his filmed concerts. It's just down to very bad luck and probably a poor immune system. Also in the case of 3 Bats I doubt he expected his own management company to prevent him from redoing vocals and James Michael to do a poor job of mixing the audio. In the case of Guilty Pleasures I doubt he expected ConcertOne to make such a hash of everything.

All that said, it is puzzling why there's so little live product available from the Bat 2 - Very Best Of period as Meat was incredibly popular, especially in Europe. Storytellers was primarily for the American market, with the European release an afterthought. Live Around The World was never officially released in Europe either. All we got was a bunch of B-sides of varying quality.

loaferman61 · 24 Dec 2014, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

In Meat Loaf's defense I doubt he planned on being ill for all his filmed concerts. It's just down to very bad luck and probably a poor immune system. Also in the case of 3 Bats I doubt he expected his own management company to prevent him from redoing vocals and James Michael to do a poor job of mixing the audio. In the case of Guilty Pleasures I doubt he expected ConcertOne to make such a hash of everything.

All that said, it is puzzling why there's so little live product available from the Bat 2 - Very Best Of period as Meat was incredibly popular, especially in Europe. Storytellers was primarily for the American market, with the European release an afterthought. Live Around The World was never officially released in Europe either. All we got was a bunch of B-sides of varying quality.

Certainly it was no fault of Meat's. He was doing his job as the performer and he could not help what production companies and managers did. The thing that is unfortunate is that the best overall footage that we know exists is at least partially controlled by one of the world's largest media conglomerates and it probably complicates things enough to make it worthwhile for everyone involved.

Evil One · 24 Dec 2014, 20:26

As far as I'm aware the show from Ahoy, Rotterdam in 1994 isn't owned by Viacom. Neither is the Berlin show from 1996 or the one from the Very Best Of tour (I forget which concert was filmed.) I suspect they're owned either by Universal Music Group or Meat Loaf himself.

13 Dec 2014, 16:09	#1
greg Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: lincoln Posts: 887	beacon dvd I have worn my beacon meat loaf dvd out . Anyone know where i can buzz a new one from

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Breeze Miss Inclined Join Date: 24.07.2010 Location: Posts: 448	sadly it says it is not available in my country, the ole usa.

17 Dec 2014, 14:53	#4
greg Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: lincoln Posts: 887	Great but i won't it on a disc not got my pc no. More

17 Dec 2014, 20:10	#5
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 802	Yeah..I can't actually VIEW this in the US either…Ummmmmmmmm

18 Dec 2014, 01:18	#7
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 802	Thank YOU!

18 Dec 2014, 14:36	#8
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	I don't understand why these amazing concerts haven't been released on DVD

18 Dec 2014, 18:22	#9
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Money

18 Dec 2014, 23:03	#10
anotherday Super Loafer Join Date: 12.10.2012 Posts: 802	Probably because the amount of money to be made VS the amount of money to make them into DVD/Blu RAY is too small.

19 Dec 2014, 21:30	#11
loaferman61 Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.03.2003 Location: In the dark Posts: 1,557	Unfortunately many of Meat's best filmed shows were done for Viacom (VH1) and I'm sure that plays some role meanwhile stuff like ConcertOne filmed is made available which is not the same quality as VH-1 although much more recent. Meat is one of the few artists with DVD's out which while fine are not the best material available IMO.

19 Dec 2014, 23:18	#12
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Meat posted on here a couple of years ago that they wanted to release these concerts but didn't offer him enough money so he said no.

21 Dec 2014, 02:40	#14
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,959	Yup, together with 'the History of Meat Loaf' I'd love to have the full Beacon show on DVD. Of course there are a few other nice televised shows but those two are my personal favorites. (of the tv broadcasted concerts, that is)

21 Dec 2014, 13:23	#15
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I wouldn't say no if they were released on DVD, but they're not at the top of my list. In Meat's collection he has professionally filmed shows from the Bat 2, Born To Rock and Very Best Of tours. I'd rather these get released as: a) I've already seen the MTV shows b) They are full concerts, not shortened promo shows c) They feature large arenas with thousands of fans instead of small theatres and a few hundred fans

21 Dec 2014, 14:04	#17
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I'd settle for Toad's Place in stereo.

24 Dec 2014, 12:37	#19
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	In Meat Loaf's defense I doubt he planned on being ill for all his filmed concerts. It's just down to very bad luck and probably a poor immune system. Also in the case of 3 Bats I doubt he expected his own management company to prevent him from redoing vocals and James Michael to do a poor job of mixing the audio. In the case of Guilty Pleasures I doubt he expected ConcertOne to make such a hash of everything. All that said, it is puzzling why there's so little live product available from the Bat 2 - Very Best Of period as Meat was incredibly popular, especially in Europe. Storytellers was primarily for the American market, with the European release an afterthought. Live Around The World was never officially released in Europe either. All we got was a bunch of B-sides of varying quality.

24 Dec 2014, 20:26	#21
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	As far as I'm aware the show from Ahoy, Rotterdam in 1994 isn't owned by Viacom. Neither is the Berlin show from 1996 or the one from the Very Best Of tour (I forget which concert was filmed.) I suspect they're owned either by Universal Music Group or Meat Loaf himself.