justed watched read em and weep.

stewbeef · 29 Jul 2006, 23:41

on the origanal vid for reed em and weep who were the two muppets trying to be back up singers.

Pudding · 30 Jul 2006, 00:53

I think one of the 'muppets' is Ted Neeley, who's an excellent singer. The other dude I'm not sure, and I don't just mean his name, I mean I'm not sure about him..LOL

Pud

**Diane** · 30 Jul 2006, 02:24

Eric Troyer .... who's also an excellent singer and vocal arranger. He's one of the backing vocalists on Bat III! He's previously worked on albums with both Meat and Jim. He was, along with Ted Neeley, a member of The Neverland Express (singing background vocals) during Meat's 1981/82 Dead Ringer Tour.

Eric has also been a vocalist with The Electric Light Orchestra.

If you've seen the movie Jesus Christ Superstar then you will have seen Ted Neeley playing the part of Jesus Christ. He's also spent many years playing the role in stage productions.

Diane

Bohemian · 30 Jul 2006, 05:30

I love those film clips from dead ringer. Shows both Eric Troyer AND Davey Johnstone (he never toured with Meat tho did he?). Davey is such a great guitarist.

He's looking eerily like Todd in that film clip, too, I might add.

**Diane** · 30 Jul 2006, 12:08

Davey was a member of the NLE but I don't know how many concerts he played with Meat. He was lead guitarist for the Rockpalast televised concert Meat played in Dortmund, Germany in December 1981. Davey may also have played the American leg of the tour ... maybe one of our American members knows for sure. He certainly didn't play the UK leg and had been replaced with Steve Hunter by then.

Diane

**RadioMaster** · 30 Jul 2006, 12:47

Diane, what would we do without you?

Bohemian · 31 Jul 2006, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diane

Davey was a member of the NLE but I don't know how many concerts he played with Meat. He was lead guitarist for the Rockpalast televised concert Meat played in Dortmund, Germany in December 1981. Davey may also have played the American leg of the tour ... maybe one of our American members knows for sure. He certainly didn't play the UK leg and had been replaced with Steve Hunter by then.

Diane

Yeah thanks Diane, that's great. I love Davey from Elton John.

I've always been a huge Elton John fan. He's like Meat in that alot of what he does is what I'd (clumsily) call "understated bombast"

. Everyone knows Elton for the flashy costumes and sunglasses and the 3 minute hit single with drum machine beat and all the rest of it, and Meat for the big "hell", "bat", "fire" ,"symphonic rock" image... but underneath the both of them are seriously overlooked talents in not just music but in the development of seriously resolved pieces of art in the world of commercial music. And they don't ram it down your throat, they're happy just to play the showbiz part and give you a good time.

Coincidently, have you ever read the sleeve notes to the mid 90s remaster of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road? The guy writing the sleevenotes suggests that the 11 minute opener (funeral for a friend / love lies bleeding) might have influenced Bat out of Hell (the album) and that Elton's "You're sister can't twist" might have influenced Paradise by the Dash. Nice theory, but I think whoever wrote it overlooked the fact that Jim had those songs in his back pocket for the best part of the 70s, certainly before Yellow brick Road came out.

Oh well. Maybe Todd was subconciously influenced by it at the mixing desk.

Sorry, another long rambling post. I'm good at them recently.

29 Jul 2006, 23:41	#1
stewbeef Junior Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2006 Location: manchester Posts: 39	justed watched read em and weep. on the origanal vid for reed em and weep who were the two muppets trying to be back up singers.

30 Jul 2006, 00:53	#2
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I think one of the 'muppets' is Ted Neeley, who's an excellent singer. The other dude I'm not sure, and I don't just mean his name, I mean I'm not sure about him..LOL Pud

30 Jul 2006, 02:24	#3
Diane Super Moderator Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 3,462	Eric Troyer .... who's also an excellent singer and vocal arranger. He's one of the backing vocalists on Bat III! He's previously worked on albums with both Meat and Jim. He was, along with Ted Neeley, a member of The Neverland Express (singing background vocals) during Meat's 1981/82 Dead Ringer Tour. Eric has also been a vocalist with The Electric Light Orchestra. If you've seen the movie Jesus Christ Superstar then you will have seen Ted Neeley playing the part of Jesus Christ. He's also spent many years playing the role in stage productions. Diane

30 Jul 2006, 05:30	#4
Bohemian Super Loafer Join Date: 14.11.2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 496	I love those film clips from dead ringer. Shows both Eric Troyer AND Davey Johnstone (he never toured with Meat tho did he?). Davey is such a great guitarist. He's looking eerily like Todd in that film clip, too, I might add.

30 Jul 2006, 12:08	#5
Diane Super Moderator Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 3,462	Davey was a member of the NLE but I don't know how many concerts he played with Meat. He was lead guitarist for the Rockpalast televised concert Meat played in Dortmund, Germany in December 1981. Davey may also have played the American leg of the tour ... maybe one of our American members knows for sure. He certainly didn't play the UK leg and had been replaced with Steve Hunter by then. Diane

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RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Diane, what would we do without you?