To Hell And Back

Shadows On The Wall · 19 Mar 2003, 18:02

How many poeple here read the biography, i read it last year, and have to say it was great, not just content wise but great layout - They should have made it longer

dottie · 19 Mar 2003, 18:33

there are only two kinds of people in the world-good people and evil people.no.wait-there's three kinds. if you count crazy people, who could be either good or bad - or neither. no. wait, wait, wait....

taken from To Hell and Back - rather topical I would of thought considering the current state of the world

Anonymous · 19 Mar 2003, 19:03

good, lol, you know your biography. So whats wrong with the current state of the world, not to change the topic but i agree with the war on iraq.

**The Flying Mouse** · 19 Mar 2003, 19:20

It's a great book.
I love the style of writting.Very casual.It's like Meat telling you the stories

.
Has anyboby both read the book and seen the film of the same name?
I havn't seen the film,but on another topic,White Of High wrote that in the film Leslie is the one who first gave him a red hankercheif to use on stage.
In the book,Meat says it was Armand Coullet.
Confusing

.
Are there any more contradictions like this?

mellis107 · 19 Mar 2003, 19:54

I don't know what Jim Steinman is like in real life (crazy if you read To Hell and Back!), but in the film, he's sooooo funny.

But let's face it, with the downward slide in Meat's life as played out in the film, the viewer needs some humour!

Oh, and I saw the guy who played Meat in the X Files the other week.

Anonymous · 19 Mar 2003, 20:00

Thought the quote at the beginning of the book was written by someone,somewhere who had great hindsight into what our future might be - This is what I mean if you read between the lines

Dottie - cannot sign in - keeps telling me username already taken - yes I know by me - can anyone help me - only way off leaving message thankxs

Tim · 19 Mar 2003, 21:12

Very, very cool book!! Read it already twice! And a great cover...very beautifull, and nice pics!

Bart · 19 Mar 2003, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

Are there any more contradictions like this?

Yes. Meat is never good in numbers or names. He said in the book that he had een reunion with Jim Steinman in 1989, but it was in the spring of 1987. In those days there was a fanclub. They had a magazine (the neverland express), it came out 3 or 4 times a year. In 1987 they mentioned this. it was something i will never forget so i know the book is wrong. Another reason: in that year Original sin came out. Meat was angry cause there were several songs on it which were written for him (original sin, it just won't quit).

Cloggy · 20 Mar 2003, 02:29

The book is great, the movie is utter shit ;/

Fire Ball · 20 Mar 2003, 07:07

Never seen it, but it's that good ! Great!!!!!

MeatBall · 20 Mar 2003, 11:13

I´m half through the book now and i read in it every day. The best book ever written

Bart · 20 Mar 2003, 12:13

It is great to read about the making of BOOH I and II. But do noit forget that it is Meat's version of history. Do you know the other book written by (i am not that good in names) Sandy Robertson? Back in 1981? It is called "the phenomenon of excess"? It is about Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman. It is great!!!!

dottie · 20 Mar 2003, 12:18

Haven't heard of this Bart - but am going to do the rounds of secondhand record and book shops when I come home - In Kingston we have a brilliant recordshop called Beggars Banquet if anyones got it they have. Do you know the publishers name?

Bart · 20 Mar 2003, 12:30

i look it up for you, grannie! have a nice holiday on tenerife!

dottie · 20 Mar 2003, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

i look it up for you, grannie! have a nice holiday on tenerife!

You lovely man

Shadows On The Wall · 20 Mar 2003, 17:02

Yea as i said before, the book is fantastic!!!, but the movie is rubbish - the man who plays meat should be shot. Its unrealistic and boreing (being blunt)

Anonymous · 20 Mar 2003, 18:23

To be honest i thought both the book and movie were very good, although they do contradict each other sometimes. Does anyone one know why meat himself didnt star in the movie? I mean come on he's a great actor, did he have any input on the movie at all?

Maybe he could shed some light on this?

**The Flying Mouse** · 20 Mar 2003, 20:01

Meat Loaf Jim Steinman and the phenomenology of excess.
1981
Omnibus Press.
UK order No: OP 41524

Hope that helps.

dottie · 20 Mar 2003, 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

Meat Loaf Jim Steinman and the phenomenology of excess.
1981
Omnibus Press.
UK order No: OP 41524

Hope that helps.

Thank you Flying Mouse for the info

Bart · 20 Mar 2003, 22:06

He Flying Mouse thanx for the help! Now grannie goes happy to tenerife.

dottie · 20 Mar 2003, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

He Flying Mouse thanx for the help! Now grannie goes happy to tenerife.

Hey Bart
Not so much of the grannie unless of course you mean it in a

way - be leaving you all soon

Bart · 20 Mar 2003, 22:45

i mean it in the good way. do not get angry on this baldheaded looser please.....

mariella · 20 Mar 2003, 22:59

Dottie, you make sure you have the time of your life

I love this bunny, just can't help myself

Make sure you come back safely and TELL US ALL ABOUT IT!!!

See you soon,

Mariella

Guppie · 21 Mar 2003, 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by dottiebat186

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

He Flying Mouse thanx for the help! Now grannie goes happy to tenerife.

Hey Bart
Not so much of the grannie unless of course you mean it in a

way - be leaving you all soon

he he... I think it's GREAT that you still rock at your age. You're a good example for me. I'm almost 42 and not the "average" mommy either

Guppie · 21 Mar 2003, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

i mean it in the good way. do not get angry on this baldheaded looser please.....

Nah... you may be baldheaded but somehow I don't think you're a looser. Not by a long shot.

19 Mar 2003, 18:02	#1
Shadows On The Wall Super Loafer Join Date: 17.03.2003 Location: Wales Posts: 278	To Hell And Back How many poeple here read the biography, i read it last year, and have to say it was great, not just content wise but great layout - They should have made it longer

19 Mar 2003, 18:33	#2
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	biography there are only two kinds of people in the world-good people and evil people.no.wait-there's three kinds. if you count crazy people, who could be either good or bad - or neither. no. wait, wait, wait.... taken from To Hell and Back - rather topical I would of thought considering the current state of the world

19 Mar 2003, 20:00	#6
Anonymous Guest Post Container Join Date: 02.04.2002 Posts: 496	biography Thought the quote at the beginning of the book was written by someone,somewhere who had great hindsight into what our future might be - This is what I mean if you read between the lines Dottie - cannot sign in - keeps telling me username already taken - yes I know by me - can anyone help me - only way off leaving message thankxs

20 Mar 2003, 12:18	#13
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	books Haven't heard of this Bart - but am going to do the rounds of secondhand record and book shops when I come home - In Kingston we have a brilliant recordshop called Beggars Banquet if anyones got it they have. Do you know the publishers name?

19 Mar 2003, 19:03	#3
Anonymous Guest Post Container Join Date: 02.04.2002 Posts: 496	good, lol, you know your biography. So whats wrong with the current state of the world, not to change the topic but i agree with the war on iraq.

19 Mar 2003, 19:20	#4
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	It's a great book. I love the style of writting.Very casual.It's like Meat telling you the stories . Has anyboby both read the book and seen the film of the same name? I havn't seen the film,but on another topic,White Of High wrote that in the film Leslie is the one who first gave him a red hankercheif to use on stage. In the book,Meat says it was Armand Coullet. Confusing . Are there any more contradictions like this?

19 Mar 2003, 19:54	#5
mellis107 Senior Loafer Join Date: 05.02.2003 Location: Rotherham, England Posts: 127	I don't know what Jim Steinman is like in real life (crazy if you read To Hell and Back!), but in the film, he's sooooo funny. But let's face it, with the downward slide in Meat's life as played out in the film, the viewer needs some humour! Oh, and I saw the guy who played Meat in the X Files the other week.

19 Mar 2003, 21:12	#7
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Very, very cool book!! Read it already twice! And a great cover...very beautifull, and nice pics!

20 Mar 2003, 02:29	#9
Cloggy Super Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 298	The book is great, the movie is utter shit ;/

20 Mar 2003, 07:07	#10
Fire Ball Himself Join Date: 05.02.2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,044	Never seen it, but it's that good ! Great!!!!!

20 Mar 2003, 11:13	#11
MeatBall Loafer Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 66	I´m half through the book now and i read in it every day. The best book ever written

20 Mar 2003, 12:13	#12
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	It is great to read about the making of BOOH I and II. But do noit forget that it is Meat's version of history. Do you know the other book written by (i am not that good in names) Sandy Robertson? Back in 1981? It is called "the phenomenon of excess"? It is about Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman. It is great!!!!

20 Mar 2003, 12:30	#14
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	i look it up for you, grannie! have a nice holiday on tenerife!

20 Mar 2003, 17:02	#16
Shadows On The Wall Super Loafer Join Date: 17.03.2003 Location: Wales Posts: 278	Yea as i said before, the book is fantastic!!!, but the movie is rubbish - the man who plays meat should be shot. Its unrealistic and boreing (being blunt)

20 Mar 2003, 18:23	#17
Anonymous Guest Post Container Join Date: 02.04.2002 Posts: 496	To be honest i thought both the book and movie were very good, although they do contradict each other sometimes. Does anyone one know why meat himself didnt star in the movie? I mean come on he's a great actor, did he have any input on the movie at all? Maybe he could shed some light on this?

20 Mar 2003, 20:01	#18
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Meat Loaf Jim Steinman and the phenomenology of excess. 1981 Omnibus Press. UK order No: OP 41524 Hope that helps.

20 Mar 2003, 22:06	#20
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	He Flying Mouse thanx for the help! Now grannie goes happy to tenerife.

20 Mar 2003, 22:45	#22
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	i mean it in the good way. do not get angry on this baldheaded looser please.....

20 Mar 2003, 22:59	#23
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	Dottie, you make sure you have the time of your life I love this bunny, just can't help myself Make sure you come back safely and TELL US ALL ABOUT IT!!! See you soon, Mariella