Dream Engine

JGrayland · 25 Jan 2006, 18:56

Anyone know if Meat plans on attending any of the Dream Engine shows to support Jim? Anyone on here going themselves?? It sounds great, im flying out to NY from LA to see it.

AndrewG · 25 Jan 2006, 21:53

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Originally Posted by JGrayland

Anyone know if Meat plans on attending any of the Dream Engine shows to support Jim? Anyone on here going themselves?? It sounds great, im flying out to NY from LA to see it.

Wow! You are?! Have fun, hope it's good!

JGrayland · 26 Jan 2006, 05:14

Yup... even if theres just one new Steinman song itll be money well spent (though my wife wont agree :P)

rockfenris2005 · 26 Jan 2006, 16:16

I don't think Meat Loaf would go to this, IMO

**Ankie** · 26 Jan 2006, 16:59

Since JGrayland will be going there, we hope to hear from him about the visitors he spotted!!

RSG · 26 Jan 2006, 21:19

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Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

I don't think Meat Loaf would go to this, IMO

I'll give him 10 bucks

JGrayland · 27 Jan 2006, 07:55

oh ill be sure to report back in some capacity...

be great if Meat went to support Jim tho, plus it could be some free publicity for Bat 3. whens the last time they were photographed together???

rockfenris2005 · 30 Jan 2006, 06:58

Why do I get the feeling this thread will turn into the four horsemen of the apocalypse?

Bart · 30 Jan 2006, 11:17

Meat supports Jim more than you think. And vice versa.

Pudding · 30 Jan 2006, 11:28

You're absolutely right Bart. Without Meat, Jim wouldn't have earned millions in royalties with no small thanks going to David Sonenberg. On the other hand, Meat wouldn't have lost millions either, if it wasn't for David Sonenberg.

Pud

Bart · 30 Jan 2006, 11:44

Exactly, things are beyond they're control. Things are going not the way they intend. And in the end it will destroy everything.

rockfenris2005 · 30 Jan 2006, 15:47

And in the end, we will all blame David Sonenberg. And rightfully so

Ma.Ra · 30 Jan 2006, 16:02

Oh we have found the smallest commonness between the meat loaf and steinman fans

rockfenris2005 · 30 Jan 2006, 16:04

Exactly. So if the album fails, Sonenberg's going down

"all the way down."

Ma.Ra · 30 Jan 2006, 16:16

Do I understand correctly?

http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movie...ml?p_id=203243

From All Movie Guide: A Harvard-graduated attorney and the founder of DAS Communications Ltd, an all-encompassing management service company for performers involved in various media, David Sonenberg also dabbles in film production. His best-known, first film was Dead Ringer, a dark comedy about real-life rock star Meat Loaf -- his very first client -- and an obsessed fan (also played by Meat Loaf). Sonenberg wrote the original story for the film and also acted in it.

He worked with Meat Loaf and later he has done a dark comedy about him?

And who is an obsessed of whom?

looks strange for me

mariella · 30 Jan 2006, 21:49

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Originally Posted by macrapper

Oh we have found the smallest commonness between the meat loaf and steinman fans

lol

Meat Loaf and Steinman-fans have a joined interest in this...

And I can't help wondering Why Meat isn't recording What Part Of My Body!?...I know no one has said he isn't, but recent post on here and some speculation made me think he hasn't yet... but for the life of me if Any song has hit-potential, this one certainly has all it takes...

Love,
Mariella

Bart · 30 Jan 2006, 23:47

It appears that some broadwaybloke get the song. In my opinion, that's a waste.

Pudding · 30 Jan 2006, 23:58

Why's it a waste?

Pud

Bart · 31 Jan 2006, 00:02

Why do you think?

Pudding · 31 Jan 2006, 00:20

I don't, that's why I'm asking.

I'm no Rob Evan fan (I presume that's who you're calling Broadwaybloke) but I also wouldn't like to hear this song sung by Meat Loaf either.

Certain songs suit certain people and a song is a waste if it goes to the wrong person. Classic example; Left In The Dark by Barbara Streisand. My personal opinion is that this particular song should be sung by a female NOT male, but she didn't do it any favours at all.

Pud

Bart · 31 Jan 2006, 00:24

I like the backing vocals on BB's version. And I am proud that a giant superstar like Streisand sings a Steinsong.

Why do you think the song doens't suit Meat?

Pudding · 31 Jan 2006, 00:39

I think it's great Streisand sang a Steinsong, I just don't think she did that one any justice though.

The song 'What Part Of My Body' is pretty mediocre, it doesn't do much for me at all, but I can hear that it belongs in a Broadway type environment and not a Rock show or on a rock album. Saying that, Meat might have the song after all and Desmond Child worked wonders with it. But from what I've heard of the song, as it stands, it wouldn't suit Meat Loaf, IMHO.

Pud

Jaymze · 01 Feb 2006, 23:29

Also Barry Manilow destroyed Read'em and Weap, he turned it into a really soppy ear aching love song when it was meant to be an operatic ballad- it's a real shame that the Dead Ringer album was overlooked because they are a lot of good songs on their that had a lot of potential. It's a real shame Meat doesn't sing more songs from that album too but I read in an interview the other month in NME magazine or somewhere that he doesn't like Read'em and Weap or IGLHFBOU because they're too cheesy. I do disagree, they're powerful operatic songs- even Steinman has overlooked these songs in a lot of his recycled material so maybe he feels the same way.

Pudding · 02 Feb 2006, 00:47

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Originally Posted by Jaymze

Also Barry Manilow destroyed Read'em and Weap, he turned it into a really soppy ear aching love song when it was meant to be an operatic ballad

I don't think you can blame Mr.Manilow for that, since it was Steinman who produced the song and therefor it must be how he felt it should be done. The production on Barry's is far better than Meat's but the vocals suck. And the music video is just the shits.

Pud

Bart · 02 Feb 2006, 10:33

Steinman has produced more songs which suck. it is not the best producer.

25 Jan 2006, 18:56	#1
JGrayland Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Posts: 65	Dream Engine Anyone know if Meat plans on attending any of the Dream Engine shows to support Jim? Anyone on here going themselves?? It sounds great, im flying out to NY from LA to see it.

30 Jan 2006, 16:16	#15
Ma.Ra Trekkie Join Date: 25.07.2004 Location: in the middle of nowhere Posts: 863	Do I understand correctly? http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movie...ml?p_id=203243 From All Movie Guide: A Harvard-graduated attorney and the founder of DAS Communications Ltd, an all-encompassing management service company for performers involved in various media, David Sonenberg also dabbles in film production. His best-known, first film was Dead Ringer, a dark comedy about real-life rock star Meat Loaf -- his very first client -- and an obsessed fan (also played by Meat Loaf). Sonenberg wrote the original story for the film and also acted in it. He worked with Meat Loaf and later he has done a dark comedy about him? And who is an obsessed of whom? looks strange for me Last edited by Ma.Ra; 30 Jan 2006 at 16:22.

26 Jan 2006, 05:14	#3
JGrayland Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Posts: 65	Yup... even if theres just one new Steinman song itll be money well spent (though my wife wont agree :P)

26 Jan 2006, 16:16	#4
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	I don't think Meat Loaf would go to this, IMO

26 Jan 2006, 16:59	#5
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,884	Since JGrayland will be going there, we hope to hear from him about the visitors he spotted!!

27 Jan 2006, 07:55	#7
JGrayland Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Posts: 65	oh ill be sure to report back in some capacity... be great if Meat went to support Jim tho, plus it could be some free publicity for Bat 3. whens the last time they were photographed together???

30 Jan 2006, 06:58	#8
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Why do I get the feeling this thread will turn into the four horsemen of the apocalypse?

30 Jan 2006, 11:17	#9
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Meat supports Jim more than you think. And vice versa.

30 Jan 2006, 11:28	#10
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	You're absolutely right Bart. Without Meat, Jim wouldn't have earned millions in royalties with no small thanks going to David Sonenberg. On the other hand, Meat wouldn't have lost millions either, if it wasn't for David Sonenberg. Pud

30 Jan 2006, 11:44	#11
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Exactly, things are beyond they're control. Things are going not the way they intend. And in the end it will destroy everything.

30 Jan 2006, 15:47	#12
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	And in the end, we will all blame David Sonenberg. And rightfully so

30 Jan 2006, 16:02	#13
Ma.Ra Trekkie Join Date: 25.07.2004 Location: in the middle of nowhere Posts: 863	Oh we have found the smallest commonness between the meat loaf and steinman fans

30 Jan 2006, 16:04	#14
rockfenris2005 Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.02.2003 Location: Posts: 2,217	Exactly. So if the album fails, Sonenberg's going down "all the way down."

30 Jan 2006, 23:47	#17
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	It appears that some broadwaybloke get the song. In my opinion, that's a waste.

30 Jan 2006, 23:58	#18
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Why's it a waste? Pud

31 Jan 2006, 00:02	#19
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Why do you think?

31 Jan 2006, 00:20	#20
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I don't, that's why I'm asking. I'm no Rob Evan fan (I presume that's who you're calling Broadwaybloke) but I also wouldn't like to hear this song sung by Meat Loaf either. Certain songs suit certain people and a song is a waste if it goes to the wrong person. Classic example; Left In The Dark by Barbara Streisand. My personal opinion is that this particular song should be sung by a female NOT male, but she didn't do it any favours at all. Pud

31 Jan 2006, 00:24	#21
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	I like the backing vocals on BB's version. And I am proud that a giant superstar like Streisand sings a Steinsong. Why do you think the song doens't suit Meat?

31 Jan 2006, 00:39	#22
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I think it's great Streisand sang a Steinsong, I just don't think she did that one any justice though. The song 'What Part Of My Body' is pretty mediocre, it doesn't do much for me at all, but I can hear that it belongs in a Broadway type environment and not a Rock show or on a rock album. Saying that, Meat might have the song after all and Desmond Child worked wonders with it. But from what I've heard of the song, as it stands, it wouldn't suit Meat Loaf, IMHO. Pud

01 Feb 2006, 23:29	#23
Jaymze Super Loafer Join Date: 10.12.2003 Location: Sunderland Posts: 265	Also Barry Manilow destroyed Read'em and Weap, he turned it into a really soppy ear aching love song when it was meant to be an operatic ballad- it's a real shame that the Dead Ringer album was overlooked because they are a lot of good songs on their that had a lot of potential. It's a real shame Meat doesn't sing more songs from that album too but I read in an interview the other month in NME magazine or somewhere that he doesn't like Read'em and Weap or IGLHFBOU because they're too cheesy. I do disagree, they're powerful operatic songs- even Steinman has overlooked these songs in a lot of his recycled material so maybe he feels the same way.

02 Feb 2006, 10:33	#25
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	Steinman has produced more songs which suck. it is not the best producer.