100 greatest albums of all time

*AndyK* · 17 Apr 2005, 21:44

Channel 4 here in the Uk is ight this minute counting down the 100 greatest albums of all time - as voted for by the viewers of channel 4 on their website.

We're at about 80 in the countdown, and guess who's at 86?

Yep. Bat Out Of Hell!!

Shurely shome mishtake?

SuperLoafMan · 17 Apr 2005, 23:37

I was expecting TOP 10!!! but hey he was there and how great it was too

Rock on Meat !!!!

dukesofhazard · 18 Apr 2005, 01:21

86?!

After seeing what rubbish was in the top 20 BOOH deserved to be in at least the top 50 and probably should have replaced one of the Beatles albums in the top 15!

Only caught the top 50 due to watching 24, was anything said about BOOH by anyone interesting (such as any new comments from Jim or Meat)?

AndrewG · 18 Apr 2005, 09:25

Yeah I personally think a lot of the albums of The Beatles are overrated. Great music, but I think a lot of it sounds quite dated. I prefer later renditions of their songs by other artists (Joe ****er "help from my friends", Tina Turner "Help" and Meat Loaf's "Let it Be" / "Come Together"). They have to be given credit but it's not as if ALL their albums were amazing. Some of their songs are simply louzy. NOTE THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I am actually surprised to see Meat in that list. These crappy all time lists on Channel 4 really get up my nose at times. It's just a cheap way to fill 3 hours+ of television time if you ask me. I'd rather see a full Beatles concert!

Look at that I cannot even write Joe's name on this board without it be starred out!

*AndyK* · 18 Apr 2005, 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukesofhazard

Only caught the top 50 due to watching 24, was anything said about BOOH by anyone interesting (such as any new comments from Jim or Meat)?

No! Nothing was said about Bat Out Of Hell at all, it got no more than 30 seconds of airtime, a couple of clips of Bat Out Of Hell, 2 Out Of 3 and Paradise from what I remember and no interviews.

dottie · 18 Apr 2005, 11:17

30 seconds of airtime, a couple of clips of Bat Out Of Hell, 2 Out Of 3 and Paradise from what I remember and no interviews.[/QUOTE]

They didn't have a clue........ Those people wouldn't know a truly all time great album even if the BAT got up and bit them....

SuperLoafMan · 18 Apr 2005, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dottie

30 seconds of airtime, a couple of clips of Bat Out Of Hell, 2 Out Of 3 and Paradise from what I remember and no interviews.

They didn't have a clue........ Those people wouldn't know a truly all time great album even if the BAT got up and bit them....[/QUOTE]
Too right Dottie.....

dukesofhazard · 18 Apr 2005, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

Nothing was said about Bat Out Of Hell at all, it got no more than 30 seconds of airtime, a couple of clips of Bat Out Of Hell, 2 Out Of 3 and Paradise from what I remember and no interviews.

Ah well, guess I didn't miss anything as last night's 24 I watched in preference to 'Top 100 Albums' was really good - proper television!

needmoremeat · 18 Apr 2005, 20:01

Hey, it's Channel 4, what do you expect?

Pixie · 18 Apr 2005, 20:48

I agree! I switched the programme on, fully expecting to wait AGES for Meat's place in the top 10 or even 20 at the worst case scenario! Woah, 86! Not even the most illiterate music critics I know would place it there! So yet again we have to grin and recognise that Channel 4 researchers don't know their 'hats' from their elbows...

*AndyK* · 18 Apr 2005, 21:55

If only we could blame the researchers, but we can't!

It's down to the general public who voted ... some of the same people who scarily in a few weeks time are going to the polls to vote for a new government!!!

lucie · 18 Apr 2005, 22:47

I expected Meat to be top 10 as well and couldn't believe the little airtime Bat Out Of Hell was given- it was truly underrated. That album is way better than most of the stuff that was above it!

SuperLoafMan · 18 Apr 2005, 23:33

Well it definitely deserved to be on air for more than 30 seconds, especially when it has been in the album charts for all them years.....was it 16 years??? I forgot...but it was a long time, and deserved more time on air!!!!

Ageing Bat · 18 Apr 2005, 23:59

I gave up and went to bed after BOOH - well, the rest was going to be rubbish, so what was the point of watching it?!!

AndrewG · 19 Apr 2005, 20:09

Channel 4's format of "All time 100 ever" is really tirying I believe (Sky's is doing the same with all time mingers etc). The same as all this ITV hell's Kitchen -vote the worst one of each day by phone" carry on. There are interesting ideas and discussions in all these programs to a certain extent I believe, but I think the format is just overdone and so simple (it's also a cheap trick having to watch a 3 hour + program to find out number 1 - which usually isn't worth it). It's as if television program makers can now only use a number of formats and have to stick to it. Really stupid if you ask me.
I also think it is stupid to constantly cater for the majority (thus the number of votes for these albums). Let's have an hour long Meat Loaf special to accompany the upcoming tour instead. I'm sure most of us would not miss one of these All time programs!

What's it going to be next? "The All time Top 100 of All time top 100 programs of Channel 4 as voted by you" ?????

It's a shame as I personally feel Channel 4 used to have some great weird programs, but most of these were shoved to passed midnight slots and are now completely non existent. Suppose it's all about ad revenues these days...

I think in this instance the top 100 should have been based on the number of record sales as many have (subcounsciously) pointed out here.

Skeleton · 20 Apr 2005, 08:52

Bat should be in TOP5..

What was number one?

AndrewG · 20 Apr 2005, 09:23

http://www.channel4.com/entertainmen...s/results.html

(At least they spelled his name correctly)

Pixie · 20 Apr 2005, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

If only we could blame the researchers, but we can't!

It's down to the general public who voted ... some of the same people who scarily in a few weeks time are going to the polls to vote for a new government!!!

CHSIB Andy!

Scary...

17 Apr 2005, 21:44	#1
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	100 greatest albums of all time Channel 4 here in the Uk is ight this minute counting down the 100 greatest albums of all time - as voted for by the viewers of channel 4 on their website. We're at about 80 in the countdown, and guess who's at 86? Yep. Bat Out Of Hell!! Shurely shome mishtake?

17 Apr 2005, 23:37	#2
SuperLoafMan Meat Loaf Rocks! Join Date: 25.01.2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 3,887	I was expecting TOP 10!!! but hey he was there and how great it was too Rock on Meat !!!!

18 Apr 2005, 01:21	#3
dukesofhazard Super Loafer Join Date: 24.09.2003 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK Posts: 478	86?! After seeing what rubbish was in the top 20 BOOH deserved to be in at least the top 50 and probably should have replaced one of the Beatles albums in the top 15! Only caught the top 50 due to watching 24, was anything said about BOOH by anyone interesting (such as any new comments from Jim or Meat)?

18 Apr 2005, 09:25	#4
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,079	Yeah I personally think a lot of the albums of The Beatles are overrated. Great music, but I think a lot of it sounds quite dated. I prefer later renditions of their songs by other artists (Joe ****er "help from my friends", Tina Turner "Help" and Meat Loaf's "Let it Be" / "Come Together"). They have to be given credit but it's not as if ALL their albums were amazing. Some of their songs are simply louzy. NOTE THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. I am actually surprised to see Meat in that list. These crappy all time lists on Channel 4 really get up my nose at times. It's just a cheap way to fill 3 hours+ of television time if you ask me. I'd rather see a full Beatles concert! Look at that I cannot even write Joe's name on this board without it be starred out!

18 Apr 2005, 11:17	#6
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	30 seconds of airtime, a couple of clips of Bat Out Of Hell, 2 Out Of 3 and Paradise from what I remember and no interviews.[/QUOTE] They didn't have a clue........ Those people wouldn't know a truly all time great album even if the BAT got up and bit them....

18 Apr 2005, 20:01	#9
needmoremeat Mega Loafer Join Date: 23.11.2003 Location: Sunderland, UK Posts: 1,416	Hey, it's Channel 4, what do you expect?

18 Apr 2005, 20:48	#10
Pixie The Mad Scientist Join Date: 22.03.2004 Location: In a land where I don't have to stay Posts: 1,306	I agree! I switched the programme on, fully expecting to wait AGES for Meat's place in the top 10 or even 20 at the worst case scenario! Woah, 86! Not even the most illiterate music critics I know would place it there! So yet again we have to grin and recognise that Channel 4 researchers don't know their 'hats' from their elbows...

18 Apr 2005, 21:55	#11
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	If only we could blame the researchers, but we can't! It's down to the general public who voted ... some of the same people who scarily in a few weeks time are going to the polls to vote for a new government!!!

18 Apr 2005, 22:47	#12
lucie Rookie Join Date: 17.01.2004 Posts: 21	I expected Meat to be top 10 as well and couldn't believe the little airtime Bat Out Of Hell was given- it was truly underrated. That album is way better than most of the stuff that was above it!

18 Apr 2005, 23:33	#13
SuperLoafMan Meat Loaf Rocks! Join Date: 25.01.2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 3,887	Well it definitely deserved to be on air for more than 30 seconds, especially when it has been in the album charts for all them years.....was it 16 years??? I forgot...but it was a long time, and deserved more time on air!!!!

18 Apr 2005, 23:59	#14
Ageing Bat Young at heart. Slightly older in other places. Join Date: 20.11.2003 Location: Here! Posts: 1,311	I gave up and went to bed after BOOH - well, the rest was going to be rubbish, so what was the point of watching it?!!

19 Apr 2005, 20:09	#15
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,079	Channel 4's format of "All time 100 ever" is really tirying I believe (Sky's is doing the same with all time mingers etc). The same as all this ITV hell's Kitchen -vote the worst one of each day by phone" carry on. There are interesting ideas and discussions in all these programs to a certain extent I believe, but I think the format is just overdone and so simple (it's also a cheap trick having to watch a 3 hour + program to find out number 1 - which usually isn't worth it). It's as if television program makers can now only use a number of formats and have to stick to it. Really stupid if you ask me. I also think it is stupid to constantly cater for the majority (thus the number of votes for these albums). Let's have an hour long Meat Loaf special to accompany the upcoming tour instead. I'm sure most of us would not miss one of these All time programs! What's it going to be next? "The All time Top 100 of All time top 100 programs of Channel 4 as voted by you" ????? It's a shame as I personally feel Channel 4 used to have some great weird programs, but most of these were shoved to passed midnight slots and are now completely non existent. Suppose it's all about ad revenues these days... I think in this instance the top 100 should have been based on the number of record sales as many have (subcounsciously) pointed out here.

20 Apr 2005, 08:52	#16
Skeleton Mega Loafer Join Date: 13.10.2003 Location: Grinning, Ducking & Running Posts: 3,668	Bat should be in TOP5.. What was number one?

20 Apr 2005, 09:23	#17
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,079	http://www.channel4.com/entertainmen...s/results.html (At least they spelled his name correctly)