Is the CD/DVD a rip off?

RockingBat · 19 Nov 2004, 10:03

Both the double DVD pack and the BOOH Live CD are fine. But come to think of it about the CD/DVD pack:
The CD is fine I guess... but the DVD... it has ONE video of "2 out of 3", 2 other videos (not from the MSO show) and 3 Audio songs + a photo gallery!!!! Now a DVD can certainly store A LOT more than that.... so i'm wondering, are we getting ripped off by the producers?
And I'm told that the Double DVD pack is not yet out in Australia, so I have to settle down for CD/DVD pack(getting it from a friend coming down from there). Being in Kenya, there're very limited ways of obtaining Meat Loaf.
And just another thought: Why is there no Double Audio CD pack that has the whole MSO show on it?

evil nickname · 19 Nov 2004, 11:21

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Originally Posted by RockingBat

But come to think of it about the CD/DVD pack:
The CD is fine I guess... but the DVD... it has ONE video of "2 out of 3", 2 other videos (not from the MSO show) and 3 Audio songs + a photo gallery!!!! Now a DVD can certainly store A LOT more than that.... so i'm wondering, are we getting ripped off by the producers?

Maybe because it's a bonus DVD?

rick · 19 Nov 2004, 12:09

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And just another thought: Why is there no Double Audio CD pack that has the whole MSO show on it?

because it wouldn't be called bat out of hell live with the mso
it would be called meat loaf live

Pudding · 20 Nov 2004, 01:57

What I think is a rip off is the fact that you have the exact same photo's showing in the exact same order in the photo gallery to three different songs, what's that all about?

Perhaps a couple extra music video's or an interview or something wouldn't be a bad idea.

Pud

rick · 20 Nov 2004, 03:11

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What I think is a rip off is the fact that you have the exact same photo's showing in the exact same order in the photo gallery to three different songs, what's that all about?

its a bonus dvd what do you want for nothing?

**The Flying Mouse** · 20 Nov 2004, 05:48

Hell, put the DVD or CD on, pass me a beer, and you've got one fan with a big old smile on his face

I'm more than happy with the releases

.

Pudding · 20 Nov 2004, 08:36

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Originally Posted by rick

its a bonus dvd what do you want for nothing?

It isn't a bonus DVD because you have to pay for the frigger

Look at the difference in price between the CD+DVD and just the CD and there's your answer

If there's no difference in price at all where you live, then people are getting ripped off in just buying the CD on its own.

Pud

RockingBat · 20 Nov 2004, 11:37

I'm paying 32 Ausie$ for the CD/DVD which is certainly more than the plain CD, hence calling it a bonus DVD is just fooling the people.
And I still feel that they should have got Meat Loaf - Live with the MSO on a double CD pack which would give the fans more options such as listening to it in cars and so on. The DVD restricts you to a lot of things.

Mike Piercy · 20 Nov 2004, 11:44

No!

wizardofodd · 20 Nov 2004, 14:01

i have the c.d with the bonus dvd and the dvd itself if you get what i meen, i dont think the dvd is much of a rip off, where i brought it the extra dvd was only £2 dearer so i aint got a problem with that, i think they should have more than one song with the live mso rather than just "2 out of 3" but apart from that i dont think it is much of a rip off.

R. · 20 Nov 2004, 16:12

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Is the CD/DVD a rip off?

No, this just means that the producers have understood theories and principles of microeconomy.
They are offering their product in slightly different packages, with or without "extra stuff" for different prices.

Jayd · 20 Nov 2004, 17:11

I remember buying a DVD single of The Darkness, for their xmas song last year, that cost me 4 pound in asda. that had the video and audio only tracks. It cost me an extra 2 pound only to but the CD and DVD edition of Meat live with MSO. And no where on the front of my cd cover does it say bonus DVD. If people only want the cd buy the cd only version, if ya want bothh then buy the CD/DVD version. Meat is not holing a gun anyone's head forcing you to buy the DVD version, it's down to choice. Three video's, in Dolby Digital, photo gallery, and three Dolby digital Audio tracks, not bad for an extra 2 pound, I don't think.

Tim · 20 Nov 2004, 22:37

Don't think it is a rip off. Just a bonus, like said in the post above.

But I DO think that the price of cd's and dvd's in general is a real rip off. I'm still buying cd's and dvd's, but they are so expensive. Think the price should go down with at least 25%!!! But that is my opinion, and btw... i buy all the cd's/dvd's legal

(except the concerts/boots)

Pudding · 21 Nov 2004, 01:40

It's a rip off in the fact that it's NOT a bonus DVD because you have to pay for it, so it's not a bonus at all. But if you put the bonus thing to one side and look at it as a whole and what you pay, then no it's not a rip off.

I do have an issue with playing the 3 audio tracks and them showing the exact same pictures in the exact same order though. That I feel is short changing the fans.

Pud

KebLou · 21 Nov 2004, 13:47

The cd with the bonus cd cost the same as the one without where I got it from, so I thought I would pick up the one with the bonus, although I still haven't looked at it.

RockingBat · 24 Nov 2004, 07:37

Finally, I heard the CD/DVD for the first time yesterday and I take all my words back. It's certainly not a rip off. I would have paid more for it. Now I havent get the double DVD pack.
It's just simply BRILLIANT!!! BRILLIANT!!!! BRILLIANT!!!!
It's a pity I can't listen to it in the office, so I have to wait till 6:00PM to listen to it again.

Gez · 21 Dec 2004, 20:50

Enough Said

AndrewG · 22 Dec 2004, 01:45

My thoughts....

I don't think meat's latest releases are a rip off at all. I think the bonus DVD that comes with the cd is quite good and I think it was really made as a teaser for the 2 disc DVD of the show. I've seen many bonus DVDs or DVD singles for that matter that are utter nonsense and a waste of time. This one isn't. I mean there is live music on there that is not released anywhere else so obviously it counts as a good bonus.
I think there are enough little extras that came with the two releases in fact that we should not complain. I think it is understandable we have to pay a pound more or so. Even if it was just for the great packaging.
2004 was a great Meat Loaf music year I believe. I'd rather spend 25 quid (cd and dvd release) or even 35 (if I had bought both cd versions accidentally) on Meat Loaf than 25 quid on an over extended Lord of the Rings which may be excellent cinema but which most likely you will only watch in a blue moon. (but that is my personal opinion!)

I can understand people being a little disappointed buying the normal cd and then finding there was one with a DVD.

Don't want to attack anybody but if there is such a fuss over a couple of quid maybe you should watch the internet time you spend on this board. It costs me 1 pound a day to be on internet (well actually a lot more if you count the computer, the electricity bills, the hard drive upgrades...... bla bla bla). Of all the people /things that rip me off I think Meat Loaf is the least of my worries.....

Pudding · 29 Dec 2004, 02:23

When someone hands over money for something they expect a certain service or goods and it's their right to complain if they feel they didn't get them.

A lot of people paid for the live CD only for a short time later (for a little extra money) another live CD was released with a bonus DVD, so obviously they probably bought that as well.

Some people myself included felt disappointed that a short time after the CD was released another CD/DVD was released. If I'd and others had known that it was going to be released then we'd have probably held on, waited and saved a bit of money in the long run.

Pud

19 Nov 2004, 10:03	#1
RockingBat Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.10.2004 Location: Kenya Posts: 125	Is the CD/DVD a rip off? Both the double DVD pack and the BOOH Live CD are fine. But come to think of it about the CD/DVD pack: The CD is fine I guess... but the DVD... it has ONE video of "2 out of 3", 2 other videos (not from the MSO show) and 3 Audio songs + a photo gallery!!!! Now a DVD can certainly store A LOT more than that.... so i'm wondering, are we getting ripped off by the producers? And I'm told that the Double DVD pack is not yet out in Australia, so I have to settle down for CD/DVD pack(getting it from a friend coming down from there). Being in Kenya, there're very limited ways of obtaining Meat Loaf. And just another thought: Why is there no Double Audio CD pack that has the whole MSO show on it?

20 Nov 2004, 01:57	#4
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	What I think is a rip off is the fact that you have the exact same photo's showing in the exact same order in the photo gallery to three different songs, what's that all about? Perhaps a couple extra music video's or an interview or something wouldn't be a bad idea. Pud

20 Nov 2004, 05:48	#6
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Hell, put the DVD or CD on, pass me a beer, and you've got one fan with a big old smile on his face I'm more than happy with the releases .

20 Nov 2004, 11:37	#8
RockingBat Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.10.2004 Location: Kenya Posts: 125	I'm paying 32 Ausie$ for the CD/DVD which is certainly more than the plain CD, hence calling it a bonus DVD is just fooling the people. And I still feel that they should have got Meat Loaf - Live with the MSO on a double CD pack which would give the fans more options such as listening to it in cars and so on. The DVD restricts you to a lot of things.

20 Nov 2004, 11:44	#9
Mike Piercy cat out of hell Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: With the black cat where the rubber meets the road Posts: 618	No!

20 Nov 2004, 14:01	#10
wizardofodd Super Loafer Join Date: 14.11.2004 Location: London Posts: 412	i have the c.d with the bonus dvd and the dvd itself if you get what i meen, i dont think the dvd is much of a rip off, where i brought it the extra dvd was only £2 dearer so i aint got a problem with that, i think they should have more than one song with the live mso rather than just "2 out of 3" but apart from that i dont think it is much of a rip off.

20 Nov 2004, 17:11	#12
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,314	I remember buying a DVD single of The Darkness, for their xmas song last year, that cost me 4 pound in asda. that had the video and audio only tracks. It cost me an extra 2 pound only to but the CD and DVD edition of Meat live with MSO. And no where on the front of my cd cover does it say bonus DVD. If people only want the cd buy the cd only version, if ya want bothh then buy the CD/DVD version. Meat is not holing a gun anyone's head forcing you to buy the DVD version, it's down to choice. Three video's, in Dolby Digital, photo gallery, and three Dolby digital Audio tracks, not bad for an extra 2 pound, I don't think.

20 Nov 2004, 22:37	#13
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Don't think it is a rip off. Just a bonus, like said in the post above. But I DO think that the price of cd's and dvd's in general is a real rip off. I'm still buying cd's and dvd's, but they are so expensive. Think the price should go down with at least 25%!!! But that is my opinion, and btw... i buy all the cd's/dvd's legal (except the concerts/boots)

21 Nov 2004, 01:40	#14
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	It's a rip off in the fact that it's NOT a bonus DVD because you have to pay for it, so it's not a bonus at all. But if you put the bonus thing to one side and look at it as a whole and what you pay, then no it's not a rip off. I do have an issue with playing the 3 audio tracks and them showing the exact same pictures in the exact same order though. That I feel is short changing the fans. Pud

21 Nov 2004, 13:47	#15
KebLou Mega Loafer Join Date: 02.03.2004 Location: The Arena of the Unwell Posts: 3,177	The cd with the bonus cd cost the same as the one without where I got it from, so I thought I would pick up the one with the bonus, although I still haven't looked at it.

24 Nov 2004, 07:37	#16
RockingBat Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.10.2004 Location: Kenya Posts: 125	Finally, I heard the CD/DVD for the first time yesterday and I take all my words back. It's certainly not a rip off. I would have paid more for it. Now I havent get the double DVD pack. It's just simply BRILLIANT!!! BRILLIANT!!!! BRILLIANT!!!! It's a pity I can't listen to it in the office, so I have to wait till 6:00PM to listen to it again.

21 Dec 2004, 20:50	#17
Gez Knicker thief Join Date: 17.04.2003 Location: auch...not on the fence Posts: 5,633	Enough Said

22 Dec 2004, 01:45	#18
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,083	My thoughts.... I don't think meat's latest releases are a rip off at all. I think the bonus DVD that comes with the cd is quite good and I think it was really made as a teaser for the 2 disc DVD of the show. I've seen many bonus DVDs or DVD singles for that matter that are utter nonsense and a waste of time. This one isn't. I mean there is live music on there that is not released anywhere else so obviously it counts as a good bonus. I think there are enough little extras that came with the two releases in fact that we should not complain. I think it is understandable we have to pay a pound more or so. Even if it was just for the great packaging. 2004 was a great Meat Loaf music year I believe. I'd rather spend 25 quid (cd and dvd release) or even 35 (if I had bought both cd versions accidentally) on Meat Loaf than 25 quid on an over extended Lord of the Rings which may be excellent cinema but which most likely you will only watch in a blue moon. (but that is my personal opinion!) I can understand people being a little disappointed buying the normal cd and then finding there was one with a DVD. Don't want to attack anybody but if there is such a fuss over a couple of quid maybe you should watch the internet time you spend on this board. It costs me 1 pound a day to be on internet (well actually a lot more if you count the computer, the electricity bills, the hard drive upgrades...... bla bla bla). Of all the people /things that rip me off I think Meat Loaf is the least of my worries.....

29 Dec 2004, 02:23	#19
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	When someone hands over money for something they expect a certain service or goods and it's their right to complain if they feel they didn't get them. A lot of people paid for the live CD only for a short time later (for a little extra money) another live CD was released with a bonus DVD, so obviously they probably bought that as well. Some people myself included felt disappointed that a short time after the CD was released another CD/DVD was released. If I'd and others had known that it was going to be released then we'd have probably held on, waited and saved a bit of money in the long run. Pud