The best of the 21st century

White of High · 08 Sep 2011, 16:40

Meat Loaf's voice changed a lot after WTTN. The last official Best Of was published in 1998 with Kiss, No Matter What and Is Nothing Sacred. I was happy when I heard them because I noticed Meat's voice changed dramaticaly and the rockopera and orchestral style would have been perfect for him. After the Very Best Of I didn't get what I expected but I think Meat had a few good songs in the last 10 years. I would be happy if Hell In The Handbasket would be rockoperatic or great orchestral but I'm sure it won't be. Anyway, what do you think which Meat Loaf song in the last 10 years would be good enough on a Best Of album?

White of High · 08 Sep 2011, 16:49

I've voted to CHSIB, Blind As A Bat, Land Of The Pigs and Song Of Madness. I would happy to vote to Seize The Night (because it's the strongest song of Jim in the last 15 years) but the arrangement and Meat's voice was weak...

melon · 08 Sep 2011, 17:02

Song of madness, cos I'm mad.

2jaxx · 08 Sep 2011, 17:35

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Originally Posted by White of High

I've voted to CHSIB, Blind As A Bat, Land Of The Pigs and Song Of Madness. I would happy to vote to Seize The Night (because it's the strongest song of Jim in the last 15 years) but the arrangement and Meat's voice was weak...

Why does no one like Seize The Night? I think his vocals are particularly strong on this song (e.g. the line "set your fantasy on fire" and the like.)
The arrangement is great in my opinion because it turns the operatic song into a rocker. The arrangement choices all make sense to me.
Even the "good girls" reprise fits. Just look at it as a hommage.

Blind As A Bat on the other hand is the opposite case. It is just edited to death. Why is the second verse so short and why is this song one single, endless chorus? The lyrics are just placative and weak.

Evil One · 08 Sep 2011, 18:16

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Originally Posted by 2jaxx

Why does no one like Seize The Night?

Because Desmond Child's arrangement sucks. Compare it to one of Jim's demos (I'm pretty sure there's one on Youtube somewhere) and see what could have been.

2jaxx · 08 Sep 2011, 18:31

I don't like the kyle gordon version very much. It is too operatic for my taste. Did you actually read my post?

Evil One · 08 Sep 2011, 18:38

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Originally Posted by 2jaxx

Did you actually read my post?

No I just chose to reply without reading.

Irrespective of the operaticness

, Meat's version lacks the same sense of urgency and the less said about the boy soprano the better.

Also I would have used the riff from 'The Storm' instead of the GGGTH riff, although I may be alone in this thought.

Wario · 08 Sep 2011, 20:00

Should have waited a few more weeks until Hand Basket

For me:

Couldn't Have Said It Better, Did I Say That?, Testify, LA, California Isn't Big Enough, Elvis In Vegas, and Blind As A Bat

tribrats · 08 Sep 2011, 20:09

I voted for all of them plus other because I can't seem to be able to pick "the best" since I love them all.

Oh, and I absofrigginlutely LOVE Seize The Night.

unbekannt · 08 Sep 2011, 20:17

CHSIB, Blind As A Bat, Song Of Madness.

I love Seize The Night, but not Meat's version. To me, the best arrangement is Carpe Noctem from Tanz der Vampire.

Sebastian. · 08 Sep 2011, 20:26

CHSIB, DIST, BAAB, ITLOTPGTBIK, Monstro/Alive, PoE, Los Angeloser, SoM, and Elvis in Vegas.

2jaxx · 08 Sep 2011, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Evil One

No I just chose to reply without reading.

Irrespective of the operaticness

, Meat's version lacks the same sense of urgency and the less said about the boy soprano the better.

I actually liked the boy soprano.

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Also I would have used the riff from 'The Storm' instead of the GGGTH riff, although I may be alone in this thought.

Would that sound good sped up? I am not so sure.

Sarge · 08 Sep 2011, 21:08

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Originally Posted by unbekannt

CHSIB, Blind As A Bat, Song Of Madness.

That - plus Testify.

TheDoode · 08 Sep 2011, 22:46

I went for CHSIB, DIST, Elvis in Vegas, Seize the Night, and What About Love. Surprised that Maddness has so many votes - personally I've never been that into that track. I prefer Land of the Pigs.

PanicLord · 08 Sep 2011, 22:59

I voted for

CHSIB
DIST
BAAB
WAL
POE
LA
SOM
EIV and
other - If It Rains! Love that song.

duke knooby · 09 Sep 2011, 01:39

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Originally Posted by 2jaxx

why is this song one single, endless chorus? The lyrics are just placative and weak.

i agree... its a reasonable 3 min song, but they really took the piss dragging it out to the length they did... made it yet more boring repetitive james michael drivel

Elijah's way · 09 Sep 2011, 03:45

Blind As A Bat
Peace One Earth
Song Of Madness
Couldn't Have Said It Better
Man Of Steel
Did I Say That?

Other:
It's All Coming Back To Me
Cry Over Me
Monster Is Loose
Let's Be In Love
Did You Ever Love Somebody
Love Is Not Real
Prize Fight Lover
All Of Me

Adje · 09 Sep 2011, 03:55

Wow that's pretty hard to do.

CHSIB
Did I Say That
Blind as a Bat
(to be honest that's it)

There's no HCTB song that makes it in my list but if I had to add one I guess it would be Los Angeloser. But only because that one has a videoclip and might be known by some people outside the fan base.
For that reason I'd also include IACBTMN (although just like Los Angeloser it doesn't deserve a "Best Of" place, imo)

Smithie · 09 Sep 2011, 17:31

I would include CHSIB, DIST, BAAB, WAL, LOTO, POE. I'm sure there will be some HIAH songs to add to the list.

View Poll Results: Which song would be good enough to a Best Of album?
Couldn't Have Said It Better	20	14.60%
Did I Say That?	11	8.03%
Testify	9	6.57%
Man Of Steel	2	1.46%
Blind As A Bat	19	13.87%
In The Land Of The Pigs	7	5.11%
Monstro/Alive	8	5.84%
What About Love	6	4.38%
Seize The Night	5	3.65%
Peace On Earth	9	6.57%
Los Angeloser	7	5.11%
Song Of Madness	14	10.22%
California Isn't Big Enough	3	2.19%
Elvis In Vegas	11	8.03%
Other songs	6	4.38%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

08 Sep 2011, 16:40	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	The best of the 21st century Meat Loaf's voice changed a lot after WTTN. The last official Best Of was published in 1998 with Kiss, No Matter What and Is Nothing Sacred. I was happy when I heard them because I noticed Meat's voice changed dramaticaly and the rockopera and orchestral style would have been perfect for him. After the Very Best Of I didn't get what I expected but I think Meat had a few good songs in the last 10 years. I would be happy if Hell In The Handbasket would be rockoperatic or great orchestral but I'm sure it won't be. Anyway, what do you think which Meat Loaf song in the last 10 years would be good enough on a Best Of album?

08 Sep 2011, 16:49	#2
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I've voted to CHSIB, Blind As A Bat, Land Of The Pigs and Song Of Madness. I would happy to vote to Seize The Night (because it's the strongest song of Jim in the last 15 years) but the arrangement and Meat's voice was weak...

08 Sep 2011, 17:02	#3
melon Long Distance Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 4,586	Song of madness, cos I'm mad.

08 Sep 2011, 18:31	#6
2jaxx Senior Loafer Join Date: 19.07.2006 Location: Posts: 131	I don't like the kyle gordon version very much. It is too operatic for my taste. Did you actually read my post?

08 Sep 2011, 20:00	#8
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	Should have waited a few more weeks until Hand Basket For me: Couldn't Have Said It Better, Did I Say That?, Testify, LA, California Isn't Big Enough, Elvis In Vegas, and Blind As A Bat

08 Sep 2011, 20:09	#9
tribrats Senior Loafer Join Date: 07.04.2011 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 151	I voted for all of them plus other because I can't seem to be able to pick "the best" since I love them all. Oh, and I absofrigginlutely LOVE Seize The Night.

08 Sep 2011, 20:17	#10
unbekannt Super Loafer Join Date: 10.07.2010 Location: Wonderland Posts: 371	CHSIB, Blind As A Bat, Song Of Madness. I love Seize The Night, but not Meat's version. To me, the best arrangement is Carpe Noctem from Tanz der Vampire.

08 Sep 2011, 20:26	#11
Sebastian. Biggles Join Date: 15.02.2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2,029	CHSIB, DIST, BAAB, ITLOTPGTBIK, Monstro/Alive, PoE, Los Angeloser, SoM, and Elvis in Vegas.

08 Sep 2011, 22:46	#14
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	I went for CHSIB, DIST, Elvis in Vegas, Seize the Night, and What About Love. Surprised that Maddness has so many votes - personally I've never been that into that track. I prefer Land of the Pigs.

08 Sep 2011, 22:59	#15
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,653	I voted for CHSIB DIST BAAB WAL POE LA SOM EIV and other - If It Rains! Love that song.

09 Sep 2011, 03:45	#17
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	Blind As A Bat Peace One Earth Song Of Madness Couldn't Have Said It Better Man Of Steel Did I Say That? Other: It's All Coming Back To Me Cry Over Me Monster Is Loose Let's Be In Love Did You Ever Love Somebody Love Is Not Real Prize Fight Lover All Of Me

09 Sep 2011, 03:55	#18
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,960	Wow that's pretty hard to do. CHSIB Did I Say That Blind as a Bat (to be honest that's it) There's no HCTB song that makes it in my list but if I had to add one I guess it would be Los Angeloser. But only because that one has a videoclip and might be known by some people outside the fan base. For that reason I'd also include IACBTMN (although just like Los Angeloser it doesn't deserve a "Best Of" place, imo)

09 Sep 2011, 17:31	#19
Smithie Super Loafer Join Date: 11.08.2009 Posts: 756	I would include CHSIB, DIST, BAAB, WAL, LOTO, POE. I'm sure there will be some HIAH songs to add to the list.