74. Why Isn't That Enough?

White of High · 11 Jun 2003, 12:38

This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!

Why Isn't That Enough? (6)

I have ambivalent emotions with it. Sometimes I like it sometimes do not. I have to say the lyrics is too simple. You can find some parts from Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad. I don't know why but I don't like that song too. Sometimes I think the melody is good and after I think it's forced. CHSIB and DIST are better... it's sure!

My score: 6

Average: 8.21 (213.4/26)

Testify · 11 Jun 2003, 12:54

i give it an 8 cos i like this one.

Bart · 11 Jun 2003, 17:09

it is one of the best. the vocal part in the middle is tremendous. 9/10

mariella · 11 Jun 2003, 19:56

I agree, one of the best!

9,5/10

Mariella

QT · 11 Jun 2003, 19:58

I like this song

I give it an 7!

Garrett · 11 Jun 2003, 20:58

One of the worst songs on CHSIB and even one of the worst songs of Meat ever. The lyrics is too simple and the melody doesn't sound good. I don't like it. It sounds like an ordinary mainstream ballad from an average boygroup.

4/10

Sapphire Lady · 11 Jun 2003, 22:09

I'm with Garrett on this one.

5/10 max

Puritan · 12 Jun 2003, 10:11

I think this is one of the better ballads on the album. I do have a bit of a problem with the similarities to "Two Out Of Three" - it certainly would appear to have been inspired by that song. That of course is not necessarily a bad thing - after all Jim admitted in a Bat Out Of Hell documentary that Two Out Of Three itself was inspired by the Elvis Classic "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You"

I'll give it 8/10

Sue K · 12 Jun 2003, 11:06

oh..i think it's a LOVerly song...one that makes me hit the repete button...a very...oriental/asian sound to it...methinks...i can picture him walking thru one of those japanese gardens...know the kind i mean? and then...i hear the waves gently coming onto the shore...yass..a japanese garden near the ocean...it flows...loverly...

i give it..a 10...

tink...XO

Bart · 12 Jun 2003, 15:31

it sounds like a marco borsato song. Meat knows him from the notp tour.

ChrisBelfast · 12 Jun 2003, 16:38

7.5

I'm torn over this one though.
It took me a while to like it but now i really do. It starts very slow but about 1/2 way mark it speeds up and meat raises his voice and starts shouting, this has emosion and is by far the best part of the song. I find myself starting it from about 1/2 way in..... if only the whole song was like this. Anyone agree about the 2nd half being better?
I think if anyone else had to sing this song it would be poor. Due to the simplicty etc of lyrics and tune it really needed meats passion and energy.

heat · 12 Jun 2003, 17:22

I really really like this one - one of the better ones on CHSIB.

8.5/10

Heat
xxx

Michel · 12 Jun 2003, 19:33

Not the best lyrics. Good music. Not my favourite song, but it isn't that bad.

My score: 5

cerysmeatloaf · 12 Jun 2003, 20:15

i like it a lot the lyrics are grate and you can really get in to it i give it

9/10

Taipan · 12 Jun 2003, 23:33

for me, this song is the other person in 2 outta 3 - it's the person who gets dumped, but they're asking, why isn't that enough? people complain that it's similar, but to me, that's the idea! a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something...

7/10

sherrie87 · 13 Jun 2003, 01:38

Taipan said:

Quote:

a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something...

I think that slight bit of strain in his voice makes the song more powerful and emotional, I actually like it.

Sherrie

Vickip · 13 Jun 2003, 03:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherrie87

Taipan said:

Quote:

a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something...

I think that slight bit of strain in his voice makes the song more powerful and emotional, I actually like it.

Sherrie

I feel exactly the same way Sherrie ....
and I have to agree with tink and give it a 10/10

Vicki

Sue K · 13 Jun 2003, 09:25

and on third thought..and after many listens yesterday..when i said..re: the ocean...gently laps at the shore? the build up ends up sounding like crashes..during the musical ...interlude...or whatever..i can picture Meat...up on the rocks... looking out to sea..yasss..that's what i kept seeing....

now i'll have to go back and see what these cracks are all are talking about...tough job ...but SOMEbody has to do it...

tink..bidding all a good morning...XO

Sapphire Lady · 13 Jun 2003, 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taipan

for me, this song is the other person in 2 outta 3 - it's the person who gets dumped, but they're asking, why isn't that enough?

The person singing 2 out of 3 was dumped a long time ago and is in a new relationship which he can't commit to 100% because his heart still belongs to the woman who dumped him.

In Why Isn't That Enough I don't think it's entirely clear whether the person singing is being dumped or is doing the dumping because the relationship just isn't working anymore. You could interpret it either way.

It's certainly a very sad song and not one you'd want to be listening to when things aren't going well between you + your partner.

Sue K · 14 Jun 2003, 03:04

i seems to me..that this is being sung by the person..dumped...and they have no idea why...after...they expressed..didn't they..that they want the other ...need the other..and love the other...however..they are missing...something..but they don't know what...

perhaps...they would do anything for love..but take out the garbage..as Meat joked at the grammy announcements...lol...

perhaps they didn't show the other person that they appreciated them...but whatever made the other go away...the dumpee...just doesn't understand..

that's my take...

tink..XO

Vickip · 14 Jun 2003, 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by tink

i seems to me..that this is being sung by the person..dumped...and they have no idea why...after...they expressed..didn't they..that they want the other ...need the other..and love the other...however..they are missing...something..but they don't know what...

perhaps...they would do anything for love..but take out the garbage..as Meat joked at the grammy announcements...lol...

perhaps they didn't show the other person that they appreciated them...but whatever made the other go away...the dumpee...just doesn't understand..

that's my take...

tink..XO

I Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself tink :)
Vicki xo

evil nickname · 14 Jun 2003, 14:45

To me, this soung is about someone who realizes that the end of their releation is near, because the 'other party' does not seem to love the main character anymore. He does not want to let her go, because he still loves her, but because he does, he does not want to make her unhappy and realizes its better for both of them to let her go.
Musically I'm not all that convinced, but its still a good song. I could have done without the female choir though.

Not as good as the previous tracks, but there are worse songs on the album. I'd give it a 7.5 out of 10.

Sue K · 14 Jun 2003, 14:58

ahh..evil..you just me go back and read the words...and that last bit...you know that i want you..etc...

then...so why isn't that enough?... that's where i thought...perhaps...the person doesn't understand why...but then the FINAL line is...

i wish that it was enough... do i sense a bit of selfishness here...that the person wants that to be enough ..and not have to do any more than that....

or...is the person incapable of doing more??

hmmm...

tink...XO

evil nickname · 14 Jun 2003, 15:31

Or the "I wish it was enough" line is to indicate that he has accepted the situation, and he sees he can't change what happens, but still wishes that wanting, needing and loving her was enough to make her stay...

Like:

"You know I want you
You know I need you
You know I love you, baby
But why isn't that enough to make you stay?
You got the full three out of three, and still you want more?
You may want more, but I wish that all that I gave you was enough to make you stay..."

my €0.02

TeamNZfan · 15 Jun 2003, 05:09

Although I love the hard/loud rock songs Meat does so well, I think his voice shows its true beauty in the slow ballads and this song shows his voice to superb affect. While the lyric maybe simple, it is one that I can relate to so well. Reading the posts above, it was interesting to think of the song from the view of the man being dumped. I had always taken it from the view that "he loved her, needed her ... and he wished that was enough".

I would give this one 10/10

11 Jun 2003, 12:38	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	74. Why Isn't That Enough? This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!! Why Isn't That Enough? (6) I have ambivalent emotions with it. Sometimes I like it sometimes do not. I have to say the lyrics is too simple. You can find some parts from Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad. I don't know why but I don't like that song too. Sometimes I think the melody is good and after I think it's forced. CHSIB and DIST are better... it's sure! My score: 6 Average: 8.21 (213.4/26)

11 Jun 2003, 12:54	#2
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	i give it an 8 cos i like this one.

11 Jun 2003, 17:09	#3
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	it is one of the best. the vocal part in the middle is tremendous. 9/10

11 Jun 2003, 19:56	#4
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	I agree, one of the best! 9,5/10 Mariella

11 Jun 2003, 19:58	#5
QT Loafer Join Date: 09.10.2002 Location: Wamel (Netherlands) Posts: 91	I like this song I give it an 7!

11 Jun 2003, 20:58	#6
Garrett Super Loafer Join Date: 30.05.2002 Location: In the room at the top Posts: 291	One of the worst songs on CHSIB and even one of the worst songs of Meat ever. The lyrics is too simple and the melody doesn't sound good. I don't like it. It sounds like an ordinary mainstream ballad from an average boygroup. 4/10

11 Jun 2003, 22:09	#7
Sapphire Lady Mega Loafer Join Date: 21.04.2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,213	I'm with Garrett on this one. 5/10 max

12 Jun 2003, 10:11	#8
Puritan Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Banbury, United Kingdom Posts: 350	I think this is one of the better ballads on the album. I do have a bit of a problem with the similarities to "Two Out Of Three" - it certainly would appear to have been inspired by that song. That of course is not necessarily a bad thing - after all Jim admitted in a Bat Out Of Hell documentary that Two Out Of Three itself was inspired by the Elvis Classic "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You" I'll give it 8/10

12 Jun 2003, 11:06	#9
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	oh..i think it's a LOVerly song...one that makes me hit the repete button...a very...oriental/asian sound to it...methinks...i can picture him walking thru one of those japanese gardens...know the kind i mean? and then...i hear the waves gently coming onto the shore...yass..a japanese garden near the ocean...it flows...loverly... i give it..a 10... tink...XO

12 Jun 2003, 15:31	#10
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	it sounds like a marco borsato song. Meat knows him from the notp tour.

12 Jun 2003, 16:38	#11
ChrisBelfast Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.02.2003 Location: Posts: 1,061	7.5 I'm torn over this one though. It took me a while to like it but now i really do. It starts very slow but about 1/2 way mark it speeds up and meat raises his voice and starts shouting, this has emosion and is by far the best part of the song. I find myself starting it from about 1/2 way in..... if only the whole song was like this. Anyone agree about the 2nd half being better? I think if anyone else had to sing this song it would be poor. Due to the simplicty etc of lyrics and tune it really needed meats passion and energy.

12 Jun 2003, 17:22	#12
heat Rampant Loafer... Join Date: 29.07.2002 Location: welshy wales Posts: 5,706	I really really like this one - one of the better ones on CHSIB. 8.5/10 Heat xxx

12 Jun 2003, 19:33	#13
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	Not the best lyrics. Good music. Not my favourite song, but it isn't that bad. My score: 5

12 Jun 2003, 20:15	#14
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	i like it a lot the lyrics are grate and you can really get in to it i give it 9/10

12 Jun 2003, 23:33	#15
Taipan Junior Loafer Join Date: 25.08.2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	for me, this song is the other person in 2 outta 3 - it's the person who gets dumped, but they're asking, why isn't that enough? people complain that it's similar, but to me, that's the idea! a very nice song, but you notice how meats voice cracks a lil in places? they coulda fixed that up in pro tools or something... 7/10

13 Jun 2003, 09:25	#18
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	and on third thought..and after many listens yesterday..when i said..re: the ocean...gently laps at the shore? the build up ends up sounding like crashes..during the musical ...interlude...or whatever..i can picture Meat...up on the rocks... looking out to sea..yasss..that's what i kept seeing.... now i'll have to go back and see what these cracks are all are talking about...tough job ...but SOMEbody has to do it... tink..bidding all a good morning...XO

14 Jun 2003, 03:04	#20
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	i seems to me..that this is being sung by the person..dumped...and they have no idea why...after...they expressed..didn't they..that they want the other ...need the other..and love the other...however..they are missing...something..but they don't know what... perhaps...they would do anything for love..but take out the garbage..as Meat joked at the grammy announcements...lol... perhaps they didn't show the other person that they appreciated them...but whatever made the other go away...the dumpee...just doesn't understand.. that's my take... tink..XO

14 Jun 2003, 14:45	#22
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	To me, this soung is about someone who realizes that the end of their releation is near, because the 'other party' does not seem to love the main character anymore. He does not want to let her go, because he still loves her, but because he does, he does not want to make her unhappy and realizes its better for both of them to let her go. Musically I'm not all that convinced, but its still a good song. I could have done without the female choir though. Not as good as the previous tracks, but there are worse songs on the album. I'd give it a 7.5 out of 10.

14 Jun 2003, 14:58	#23
Sue K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Posts: 13,041	ahh..evil..you just me go back and read the words...and that last bit...you know that i want you..etc... then...so why isn't that enough?... that's where i thought...perhaps...the person doesn't understand why...but then the FINAL line is... i wish that it was enough... do i sense a bit of selfishness here...that the person wants that to be enough ..and not have to do any more than that.... or...is the person incapable of doing more?? hmmm... tink...XO

14 Jun 2003, 15:31	#24
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	Or the "I wish it was enough" line is to indicate that he has accepted the situation, and he sees he can't change what happens, but still wishes that wanting, needing and loving her was enough to make her stay... Like: "You know I want you You know I need you You know I love you, baby But why isn't that enough to make you stay? You got the full three out of three, and still you want more? You may want more, but I wish that all that I gave you was enough to make you stay..." my €0.02

15 Jun 2003, 05:09	#25
TeamNZfan Loafer Join Date: 05.03.2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 51	Although I love the hard/loud rock songs Meat does so well, I think his voice shows its true beauty in the slow ballads and this song shows his voice to superb affect. While the lyric maybe simple, it is one that I can relate to so well. Reading the posts above, it was interesting to think of the song from the view of the man being dumped. I had always taken it from the view that "he loved her, needed her ... and he wished that was enough". I would give this one 10/10