More Than You Deserve

Julie in the rv mirror · 01 Jun 2010, 00:43

Specifically, the version that's on Dead Ringer; does anybody know when this was recorded? Was it during the same time period as the rest of the songs on the album? Some of the personnel involved are different than those on the other songs.

I know the song obviously predates BOOH, so I'm asking about this particular recording.

batoutofhell · 08 Jun 2010, 19:44

Well, the bulk of the band (Meat, Steve Buslowe, Davey Johnstone, Max Weinberg, Jimmy Maelen, Teddie Neeley, Allan Nicholls, and the Blend-O-Matics*) are on the track, so I'd presume that Mick Ronson and Nicky Hopkins were either just guest appearances or it was one of the last tracks finished and they couldn't get everyone back together.

* Rory Dodd and Eric Troyer, with the name coined on Karla DeVito's debut album. They're not actually credited as this, I just like the name.

Julie in the rv mirror · 09 Jun 2010, 01:49

Hmmm, yeah, that's what I thought too. But Roy Bittan's missing, and he's a key piece of my "which came first" puzzle.

They reuse instrumental tracks with different vocals sometimes, right?

Thanks for your answer, btw..

batoutofhell · 10 Jun 2010, 22:09

I do know this: Jim Steinman and Jimmy Iovine produced all of the backing tracks with the band, and may or may not have done the full production on "Dead Ringer for Love" and "Read 'Em and Weep" before letting Meat Loaf and another producer finish the album. Maybe Jim would know?

Julie in the rv mirror · 11 Jun 2010, 06:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by batoutofhell

Maybe Jim would know?

Probably, but I can't ask him.

**The Flying Mouse** · 14 Jun 2010, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by batoutofhell

I do know this: Jim Steinman and Jimmy Iovine produced all of the backing tracks with the band, and may or may not have done the full production on "Dead Ringer for Love" and "Read 'Em and Weep" before letting Meat Loaf and another producer finish the album. Maybe Jim would know?

Are you positive?

I was under the impression that Jimmy supplied the songs, and that was the extent of his involvement with the album.

Evil One · 14 Jun 2010, 20:29

I'm pretty sure Jim was responsible for everything except the vocals and lead guitar.

Wario · 14 Jun 2010, 20:30

according tlo the audobiography he only supplied the songs

**allrevvedup** · 14 Jun 2010, 20:35

It's wiki so take this with a pinch of salt but...

"The album was produced by Meat Loaf and Stephan Galfas, with backing tracks produced by Jimmy Iovine and Jim Steinman"

Wario · 14 Jun 2010, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

It's wiki so take this with a pinch of salt but...

"The album was produced by Meat Loaf and Stephan Galfas, with backing tracks produced by Jimmy Iovine and Jim Steinman"

Evil One obviously edited the article (lol)

nowhere in the cd program does it say jim did anything of teh sort

Evil One · 14 Jun 2010, 22:15

I can safely say I've never edited Wikipedia in my life!

Check through the articles on Steinman's site. It's probably in there somewhere.

01 Jun 2010, 00:43	#1
Julie in the rv mirror Spirit in the Night Join Date: 23.07.2008 Location: On the edge of town (in the Darkness...) Posts: 1,559	More Than You Deserve Specifically, the version that's on Dead Ringer; does anybody know when this was recorded? Was it during the same time period as the rest of the songs on the album? Some of the personnel involved are different than those on the other songs. I know the song obviously predates BOOH, so I'm asking about this particular recording.

08 Jun 2010, 19:44	#2
batoutofhell Junior Loafer Join Date: 22.05.2010 Location: In a house. Obviously. Posts: 38	Well, the bulk of the band (Meat, Steve Buslowe, Davey Johnstone, Max Weinberg, Jimmy Maelen, Teddie Neeley, Allan Nicholls, and the Blend-O-Matics) are on the track, so I'd presume that Mick Ronson and Nicky Hopkins were either just guest appearances or it was one of the last tracks finished and they couldn't get everyone back together. Rory Dodd and Eric Troyer, with the name coined on Karla DeVito's debut album. They're not actually credited as this, I just like the name.

09 Jun 2010, 01:49	#3
Julie in the rv mirror Spirit in the Night Join Date: 23.07.2008 Location: On the edge of town (in the Darkness...) Posts: 1,559	Hmmm, yeah, that's what I thought too. But Roy Bittan's missing, and he's a key piece of my "which came first" puzzle. They reuse instrumental tracks with different vocals sometimes, right? Thanks for your answer, btw..

10 Jun 2010, 22:09	#4
batoutofhell Junior Loafer Join Date: 22.05.2010 Location: In a house. Obviously. Posts: 38	I do know this: Jim Steinman and Jimmy Iovine produced all of the backing tracks with the band, and may or may not have done the full production on "Dead Ringer for Love" and "Read 'Em and Weep" before letting Meat Loaf and another producer finish the album. Maybe Jim would know?

14 Jun 2010, 20:29	#7
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	I'm pretty sure Jim was responsible for everything except the vocals and lead guitar.

14 Jun 2010, 20:30	#8
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	according tlo the audobiography he only supplied the songs

14 Jun 2010, 20:35	#9
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,358	It's wiki so take this with a pinch of salt but... "The album was produced by Meat Loaf and Stephan Galfas, with backing tracks produced by Jimmy Iovine and Jim Steinman"

14 Jun 2010, 22:15	#11
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	I can safely say I've never edited Wikipedia in my life! Check through the articles on Steinman's site. It's probably in there somewhere.