Bad Attitude USA or Rest Of World edition?

Evil One · 10 May 2010, 14:09

I've just had Bad Attitude blasting out while doing some cleaning. First I have to say that it's still a bloody good album. Second, what version do people prefer? Also, does anyone know why there were two different mixes?

I think the USA mix is better, the vocals are clearer and the songs are better.

Wario · 10 May 2010, 15:23

They both have their superior and inferior mixes, so I love both equally.

Gotta say though that the UK Mix of Surf's Up is far betetr then the Piano/Vocal US counterpart.

Modern Girl and Bad Attitude's US versions are better produced.

but on both editions Cheating in your Dreams has a sudden volume changed 40 seconds in.

Cozzie · 10 May 2010, 15:53

I bought the UK CD and thought it was a very poor mix.

I then found out that the US CD was different, I hunted it down and eventually bought it for $3 on Ebay (it is quite rare!)

I definitely prefer the US version. Stronger sound, crisper vocals and less-eighties.

DazLoaf01 · 10 May 2010, 16:26

So is the US mix version not readily available on CD over there?

roomster · 10 May 2010, 17:09

Is it possible to buy the US-version (RCA Records) somewhere?

RSG · 10 May 2010, 17:10

I dont know which one I have. Cheating... is a little quieter than rest of the album and its also the last song on the album.

evil nickname · 10 May 2010, 17:11

If Cheating in your Dreams is the last track (and it says RCA on the spine) it's the US version.

Sarge · 10 May 2010, 19:23

I prefer the US version. There also is a Surf's Up promo record by RCA that contains different versions of the song.

*AndyK* · 10 May 2010, 19:52

The difference is explained by Bob Kulick in an interview he gave for RVM a few years ago ... basically when they released the US version the record company said they could remaster it as the UK version wasn't as good as it shoud have been, so Meat and the band set about remastering and managed to remix and re-record a few bits at the same time.

evil nickname · 10 May 2010, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge

I prefer the US version. There also is a Surf's Up promo record by RCA that contains different versions of the song.

Well, it contains the US album and single version. Unless you're talking about some version I've never heard of, that is.

Sarge · 10 May 2010, 20:00

And the problem is...?

evil nickname · 10 May 2010, 20:48

There's a problem? All I'm saying is that there's just one different version of Surf's Up on the promo.

Sarge · 10 May 2010, 21:07

And all I'm seeing is someone who has taken yet another opportunity to promote his website.

evil nickname · 10 May 2010, 21:21

And the problem is...? :P

I mean, 1) clicking the link is completly optional, as 2) all relevant information was contained in the post, and c) I'd just as well link to any other website that contains the same information but there doesn't seem to be one.

evil nickname · 10 May 2010, 21:22

oops. double post.

DazLoaf01 · 10 May 2010, 22:16

So would I be right in saying the US mix is the definitive one? I see on evil nickname's webite (which I visit reguarly by the way

) that Meat himself was involved in the mixes on that one.

However, Meat said in a very recent interview that Bad Attitude was perfect apart from one song he didn't want included... The US release still contains all the same songs, so I wonder which it is?

Cozzie · 11 May 2010, 07:24

The easiest way to tell the difference is that the UK version (inferior IMO) is on Arista and the US one is on RCA. If you see a copy listed in the US on Ebay or Amazon it's well worth messaging the seller and finding out what label it's pressed on. Some sellers know what they have and charge heaps for the US version, others have no idea. "Patience is a virtue, son"

The track order is changed very slightly but the main difference is in the mix.

Does anyone know what song Meat was talking about when he said he didn't want it included?

Wario · 19 Aug 2010, 10:15

Looked and searched. no such poll of this. There have been threads discussing it but no poll to determine the winner.

What do would you prefer: The US Mix or the UK Mix?

I prefer the US mix of everything but POTA. So by majority, the US Version.

*AndyK* · 19 Aug 2010, 10:26

How do you manage to post almost every thread you create in the wrong place? I'm beginning to think we need a mod dedicated to tidying up after you

AndrewG · 19 Aug 2010, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

How do you manage to post almost every thread you create in the wrong place? I'm beginning to think we need a mod dedicated to tidying up after you

Any volunteers?

And here was me thinking he was always quite accurate with the poll stuff.

Wario · 19 Aug 2010, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

How do you manage to post almost every thread you create in the wrong place? I'm beginning to think we need a mod dedicated to tidying up after you

Shoot. i seriously meant to post this in TT&BH.

i mixed it up with LB&GG

lol

*AndyK* · 19 Aug 2010, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG

And here was me thinking he was always quite accurate with the poll stuff.

Only because we move it quickly lol

Evil One · 19 Aug 2010, 10:35

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14797

Either your search abilities are failing you or you're a tit. You even posted in this thread.

Wario · 19 Aug 2010, 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14797

Either your search abilities are failing you or you're a tit. You even posted in this thread.

I searched "Attitude" that thread doesn't show up. Just checked it again.

and i dont even remember posting that lol

*AndyK* · 19 Aug 2010, 10:38

I know which gets my vote

Threads merged, with the new poll retained to give everyone a chance to vote again.

View Poll Results: Bad Attitude: What version of yore?
US Version (RCA Label)	12	70.59%
UK Version (Arista Label)	4	23.53%
Neither. Not my cup of tea (if you're from the UK)	1	5.88%
Neither. Not my cup of Coffee (if you're from the US)	0	0%
Neither. Not my cup of Ale (if you're from anywhere else)	0	0%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

10 May 2010, 14:09	#1
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Bad Attitude USA or Rest Of World edition? I've just had Bad Attitude blasting out while doing some cleaning. First I have to say that it's still a bloody good album. Second, what version do people prefer? Also, does anyone know why there were two different mixes? I think the USA mix is better, the vocals are clearer and the songs are better.

10 May 2010, 21:07	#13
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	And all I'm seeing is someone who has taken yet another opportunity to promote his website. Last edited by Sarge; 10 May 2010 at 21:12.

19 Aug 2010, 10:15	#18
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	US or UK Bad Attitude? Looked and searched. no such poll of this. There have been threads discussing it but no poll to determine the winner. What do would you prefer: The US Mix or the UK Mix? I prefer the US mix of everything but POTA. So by majority, the US Version.

10 May 2010, 15:23	#2
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	They both have their superior and inferior mixes, so I love both equally. Gotta say though that the UK Mix of Surf's Up is far betetr then the Piano/Vocal US counterpart. Modern Girl and Bad Attitude's US versions are better produced. but on both editions Cheating in your Dreams has a sudden volume changed 40 seconds in.

10 May 2010, 15:53	#3
Cozzie Junior Loafer Join Date: 10.09.2009 Posts: 30	I bought the UK CD and thought it was a very poor mix. I then found out that the US CD was different, I hunted it down and eventually bought it for $3 on Ebay (it is quite rare!) I definitely prefer the US version. Stronger sound, crisper vocals and less-eighties.

10 May 2010, 16:26	#4
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	So is the US mix version not readily available on CD over there?

10 May 2010, 17:09	#5
roomster Super Loafer Join Date: 11.03.2009 Location: Norway Posts: 536	Is it possible to buy the US-version (RCA Records) somewhere?

10 May 2010, 17:10	#6
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	I dont know which one I have. Cheating... is a little quieter than rest of the album and its also the last song on the album.

10 May 2010, 17:11	#7
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	If Cheating in your Dreams is the last track (and it says RCA on the spine) it's the US version.

10 May 2010, 19:23	#8
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	I prefer the US version. There also is a Surf's Up promo record by RCA that contains different versions of the song.

10 May 2010, 19:52	#9
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	The difference is explained by Bob Kulick in an interview he gave for RVM a few years ago ... basically when they released the US version the record company said they could remaster it as the UK version wasn't as good as it shoud have been, so Meat and the band set about remastering and managed to remix and re-record a few bits at the same time.

10 May 2010, 20:00	#11
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	And the problem is...?

10 May 2010, 20:48	#12
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	There's a problem? All I'm saying is that there's just one different version of Surf's Up on the promo.

10 May 2010, 21:21	#14
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	And the problem is...? :P I mean, 1) clicking the link is completly optional, as 2) all relevant information was contained in the post, and c) I'd just as well link to any other website that contains the same information but there doesn't seem to be one.

10 May 2010, 21:22	#15
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	oops. double post.

10 May 2010, 22:16	#16
DazLoaf01 Super Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2003 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 455	So would I be right in saying the US mix is the definitive one? I see on evil nickname's webite (which I visit reguarly by the way ) that Meat himself was involved in the mixes on that one. However, Meat said in a very recent interview that Bad Attitude was perfect apart from one song he didn't want included... The US release still contains all the same songs, so I wonder which it is?

11 May 2010, 07:24	#17
Cozzie Junior Loafer Join Date: 10.09.2009 Posts: 30	The easiest way to tell the difference is that the UK version (inferior IMO) is on Arista and the US one is on RCA. If you see a copy listed in the US on Ebay or Amazon it's well worth messaging the seller and finding out what label it's pressed on. Some sellers know what they have and charge heaps for the US version, others have no idea. "Patience is a virtue, son" The track order is changed very slightly but the main difference is in the mix. Does anyone know what song Meat was talking about when he said he didn't want it included?

19 Aug 2010, 10:26	#19
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	How do you manage to post almost every thread you create in the wrong place? I'm beginning to think we need a mod dedicated to tidying up after you

19 Aug 2010, 10:35	#23
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14797 Either your search abilities are failing you or you're a tit. You even posted in this thread.

19 Aug 2010, 10:38	#25
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	I know which gets my vote Threads merged, with the new poll retained to give everyone a chance to vote again.