Meat - A 'B' List celeb???

heat · 12 Jul 2007, 17:09

Am sat here mortified.

I've recently bought the new book entitled 'The Diana Chronicles' by Tina Brown, and am wading patiently through it. Imagine my surprise when i came across this...

Quote..
'..In 1987, the extent to which they (the royals) had succumbed to the seduction of TV became disastorously clear when Prince Edward secured the participation of Princess Anne and Prince Andrew in a cringingly undignified BBC celebrity game show, 'It's A Knockout', to raise money for charity. The end was laudable enough, but the means were lamentable. On a muddy field in Staffordshire, royals comepted with B-List celebrities such as Meatloaf, Tom Jones and Pamela Stevenson to pelt each other with fake hams, chase each other through tanks of water and play games dressed as enormous chess pieces and vegetables...'

Since when was Meat a 'B' list celeb??? And since when did they spell his name as all one word???

Does anyone recall Meat taking part in this? I have seen some clips of the royals doing it's a knockout, but don't remember seeing Meat on it at all.

*AndyK* · 12 Jul 2007, 17:10

Yeah Meat was there! I remember watching it on TV and not seeing a greast deal of coverage for the big man, but he was certainly there

LucyK! · 12 Jul 2007, 17:11

I'm more shocked that they put Tom Jones as B-list...

Given I was 1 at the time I didn't see it, but I've seen pics of Meat in his blue and silver (if I remember rightly) costume stood with Fergie...the pic has appeared in several of his tourbooks

mszee · 12 Jul 2007, 17:26

Is that the one that created all the controversy about him and Fergie hitting on him???

Ageing Bat · 12 Jul 2007, 17:49

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Originally Posted by mszee

Is that the one that created all the controversy about him and Fergie hitting on him???

Did she?

I remember watching it....... the media slated the whole idea, which in my opinion was uncalled for - I think for the first time the younger generation of the royal family were prepared to show their 'human' side.

**RadioMaster** · 12 Jul 2007, 18:19

Meat Loaf is definitely a B-list celebrity, whether you like it or not.

meatloaf-unofficial · 12 Jul 2007, 19:08

I am not too sure what a B Celeb is, can anyone tell me???? (holiday in spain - great !!)

LucyK! · 12 Jul 2007, 19:13

It's a crappy measure of how famous/successful/popular a celeb is...I guess someone like David Beckham is A list then they get progressively worse!

snowy · 12 Jul 2007, 20:35

I rmemeber watching it at the time (although I wasn't an obsessed fan at that stage!) and Fergie kept calling him 'Meaty'. I think he refers to this at the end of his 'book'.
The show was certainly good for a laugh though!!

mszee · 12 Jul 2007, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Lucy!

It's a crappy measure of how famous/successful/popular a celeb is...I guess someone like David Beckham is A list then they get progressively worse!

David Beckham is as laughing stock here as he is over there...and certainly not A list here at all...

More like...let's see...Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman, etc. are A-list here...in short people who have VERY successful contemporary careers...

duke knooby · 12 Jul 2007, 20:50

very successful, or very media savvy, and crave the attention.. do the premiere's etc????????

the tabloids and glossys friend.. don't think thats meats style

**RadioMaster** · 12 Jul 2007, 20:52

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Originally Posted by mszee

David Beckham is as laughing stock here as he is over there...and certainly not A list here at all...

More like...let's see...Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman, etc. are A-list here...in short people who have VERY successful contemporary careers...

thinking about it most of them hollywood stars, arent they? Tom Cruise, Brad Shitt, etc.

mszee · 12 Jul 2007, 20:53

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Originally Posted by knooby

very successful, or very media savvy, and crave the attention.. do the premiere's etc????????

the tabloids and glossys friend.. don't think thats meats style

Here the measure of an A list celebrity is PROFITS...if the star produces PROFITS...then they are A list...cause everybody wants to make money...so everybody wants them...

If the album was number one...................

mszee · 12 Jul 2007, 20:54

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

thinking about it most of them hollywood stars, arent they? Tom Cruise, Brad Shitt, etc.

Yes...but that was just an example...I've explained how celebrity is rated here more or less above...

*AndyK* · 12 Jul 2007, 20:57

It's all subjective anyway really ... we all have our A, B and C list friends ... the A's are the peopel that we must have at our party, the B's the nice to haves and the C's are those who just make up the numbers. My A list would be completely different to someone else's.

Deb · 12 Jul 2007, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Lucy!

I've seen pics of Meat in his blue and silver (if I remember rightly) costume stood with Fergie...the pic has appeared in several of his tourbooks

I have a feeling our very own Susan ( anyone for a brew?) Yates took that picture

LostSoul · 12 Jul 2007, 22:02

B stands for Best.

Pa†ricia

PanicLord · 12 Jul 2007, 22:05

Don't forget also that 1987 wasn't exactly the peak of Meat's career. Maybe after Bat 1 or Bat 2 were released he was A list?

AndrewG · 12 Jul 2007, 22:16

The words: "If I become hip, shoot me and put me out of my misery." spring to mind.

mszee · 12 Jul 2007, 22:17

It's not about art...it's business...

wolfy35 · 12 Jul 2007, 23:49

This all depends on what is currently meant by A & B lost celebrities.

Many of todays so called A list celebrities are people like Paris Hilton, a person who is more famous for being "accidentally" filmed having sex than for something she has really done or Victoria Beckham who was never a really good singer and her only real talent is being a footballers wife.

However on the so called B list you do indeed find people like Meat, Tom Jones, Elton John and many other people who are famous for having a real talent.

Bearing this in mind would Meat really care that he is referred to as B list??? I think not

**RadioMaster** · 12 Jul 2007, 23:55

wouldnt call Paris Hilton an A celebrity.

duke knooby · 13 Jul 2007, 01:42

then you mustnt have spent a night in paris rj... stick to cologne without the frills

**RadioMaster** · 13 Jul 2007, 01:47

Insomnia....

edit: so tired that I even post in the wrong threads.....
just ignore me

mszee · 13 Jul 2007, 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

Insomnia....

edit: so tired that I even post in the wrong threads.....
just ignore me

'Tis alright...we usually do anyway...

12 Jul 2007, 17:09	#1
heat Rampant Loafer... Join Date: 29.07.2002 Location: welshy wales Posts: 5,706	Meat - A 'B' List celeb??? Am sat here mortified. I've recently bought the new book entitled 'The Diana Chronicles' by Tina Brown, and am wading patiently through it. Imagine my surprise when i came across this... Quote.. '..In 1987, the extent to which they (the royals) had succumbed to the seduction of TV became disastorously clear when Prince Edward secured the participation of Princess Anne and Prince Andrew in a cringingly undignified BBC celebrity game show, 'It's A Knockout', to raise money for charity. The end was laudable enough, but the means were lamentable. On a muddy field in Staffordshire, royals comepted with B-List celebrities such as Meatloaf, Tom Jones and Pamela Stevenson to pelt each other with fake hams, chase each other through tanks of water and play games dressed as enormous chess pieces and vegetables...' Since when was Meat a 'B' list celeb??? And since when did they spell his name as all one word??? Does anyone recall Meat taking part in this? I have seen some clips of the royals doing it's a knockout, but don't remember seeing Meat on it at all.

12 Jul 2007, 17:10	#2
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Yeah Meat was there! I remember watching it on TV and not seeing a greast deal of coverage for the big man, but he was certainly there

12 Jul 2007, 17:11	#3
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I'm more shocked that they put Tom Jones as B-list... Given I was 1 at the time I didn't see it, but I've seen pics of Meat in his blue and silver (if I remember rightly) costume stood with Fergie...the pic has appeared in several of his tourbooks

12 Jul 2007, 17:26	#4
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Is that the one that created all the controversy about him and Fergie hitting on him???

12 Jul 2007, 18:19	#6
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Meat Loaf is definitely a B-list celebrity, whether you like it or not.

12 Jul 2007, 19:08	#7
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I am not too sure what a B Celeb is, can anyone tell me???? (holiday in spain - great !!)

12 Jul 2007, 19:13	#8
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	It's a crappy measure of how famous/successful/popular a celeb is...I guess someone like David Beckham is A list then they get progressively worse!

12 Jul 2007, 20:35	#9
snowy Super Loafer Join Date: 21.04.2006 Location: Herts Posts: 292	I rmemeber watching it at the time (although I wasn't an obsessed fan at that stage!) and Fergie kept calling him 'Meaty'. I think he refers to this at the end of his 'book'. The show was certainly good for a laugh though!!

12 Jul 2007, 20:50	#11
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,903	very successful, or very media savvy, and crave the attention.. do the premiere's etc???????? the tabloids and glossys friend.. don't think thats meats style

12 Jul 2007, 20:57	#15
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	It's all subjective anyway really ... we all have our A, B and C list friends ... the A's are the peopel that we must have at our party, the B's the nice to haves and the C's are those who just make up the numbers. My A list would be completely different to someone else's.

12 Jul 2007, 22:02	#17
LostSoul Got metal? Join Date: 06.11.2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 2,109	B stands for Best. Pa†ricia

12 Jul 2007, 22:05	#18
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,654	Don't forget also that 1987 wasn't exactly the peak of Meat's career. Maybe after Bat 1 or Bat 2 were released he was A list?

12 Jul 2007, 22:16	#19
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,083	The words: "If I become hip, shoot me and put me out of my misery." spring to mind.

12 Jul 2007, 22:17	#20
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	It's not about art...it's business...

12 Jul 2007, 23:49	#21
wolfy35 Dangerous on a full moon Join Date: 14.03.2007 Location: Standing on the outside, Looking in on you Posts: 751	This all depends on what is currently meant by A & B lost celebrities. Many of todays so called A list celebrities are people like Paris Hilton, a person who is more famous for being "accidentally" filmed having sex than for something she has really done or Victoria Beckham who was never a really good singer and her only real talent is being a footballers wife. However on the so called B list you do indeed find people like Meat, Tom Jones, Elton John and many other people who are famous for having a real talent. Bearing this in mind would Meat really care that he is referred to as B list??? I think not

12 Jul 2007, 23:55	#22
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	wouldnt call Paris Hilton an A celebrity.

13 Jul 2007, 01:42	#23
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,903	then you mustnt have spent a night in paris rj... stick to cologne without the frills

13 Jul 2007, 01:47	#24
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Insomnia.... edit: so tired that I even post in the wrong threads..... just ignore me