Rank the Songs Greatest To Least: Jim Steinman's Bad For Good - Page 7

Steve6 · 16 Sep 2010, 14:09

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Originally Posted by Pudding

I never said that. But on the flip side, who's to say that they can't be done better but we just haven't heard it?

I think it would be diplomatic and fair to say that Meat is the one who's done best versions of those songs...thus far. Would they or could they be done equal or better? you'd be wrong to totally dismiss the possibility.

I'm in agreement with Pudding because we are on the same wave length for once. Jim is fairly picky with who he works I'd say, and given his age and attitude these days I'm fairly convinced he won't be working with a different artist anytime soon. I won't dismiss it yet, but I'm not hopeful.

nikox1 · 17 Sep 2010, 01:46

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I'm in agreement with Pudding because we are on the same wave length for once. Jim is fairly picky with who he works I'd say, and given his age and attitude these days I'm fairly convinced he won't be working with a different artist anytime soon. I won't dismiss it yet, but I'm not hopeful.

well i hope a better version of Bat out of Hell is somewhere out there waiting for you? because it wont ever happen imo.

Pudding · 17 Sep 2010, 06:49

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I'm in agreement with Pudding because we are on the same wave length for once.

We could NEVER be on the same wavelength.

Evil One · 17 Sep 2010, 09:42

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Originally Posted by nikox1

well i hope a better version of Bat out of Hell is somewhere out there waiting for you? because it wont ever happen imo.

It's unlikely, but not impossible.

Wario · 17 Sep 2010, 10:59

2077, the 100th anniversary of bat, well see something major. don't threat. ill still be alive (hopefully) to see it.

then ill bring you all a copy when i get to heaven (hopefully)

daveake · 17 Sep 2010, 11:04

I expect to see you miming to it on geriatrictube

Steve6 · 17 Sep 2010, 17:43

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Originally Posted by nikox1

well i hope a better version of Bat out of Hell is somewhere out there waiting for you? because it wont ever happen imo.

I don't expect a better version of Bat Out of Hell to EVER come out. It's just not possible to make it any better than it is right now. I do hope a better version of "Bad for Good" gets released though. It's a lost album in the music world, that had much more potential. If I don't get that I'd settle for a remastered copy of the same album.

nikox1 · 18 Sep 2010, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I don't expect a better version of Bat Out of Hell to EVER come out. It's just not possible to make it any better than it is right now. I do hope a better version of "Bad for Good" gets released though. It's a lost album in the music world, that had much more potential. If I don't get that I'd settle for a remastered copy of the same album.

the problem i have with the Bad 4 Good album is, that its done in a very campy style. and it badly needed Meats vocals. and the videos off it were yikes!!!

Sarge · 18 Sep 2010, 01:05

The videos were funny. Jim Steinman standing on that thing that was supposed to look like a rock, trying to make impressive gestures, the half-naked dancers...

Evil One · 18 Sep 2010, 01:07

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Originally Posted by nikox1

the problem i have with the Bad 4 Good album is, that its done in a very campy style.

Yes.

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Originally Posted by nikox1

and it badly needed Meats vocals.

Not necessarily, it could have been done with someone else.

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Originally Posted by nikox1

and the videos off it were yikes!!!

Yes.

AndrewG · 18 Sep 2010, 01:15

The videos were stupid and as Daveake pointed out I'm not sure either why Steinman has an obsession with almost naked male ballet dancers. Not exactly an image that comes to my mind when I listen to his music.

Imo BFG would have been amazing when done with Meat's vocals from '83 onwards and would have probably sold millions and pretty much sealed the deal for more Meat/Steinman records if they at least could let management take a hike.

duke knooby · 18 Sep 2010, 01:20

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I'm not sure either why Steinman has an obsession with almost naked male ballet dancers.

Evil One · 18 Sep 2010, 01:41

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

Indeed.

Wario · 18 Sep 2010, 02:03

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I'm not sure either why Steinman has an obsession with almost naked male ballet dancers. Not exactly an image that comes to my mind when I listen to his music.

yea....

GDW · 18 Sep 2010, 03:24

At least there is a girl in the videos. Or is it a Shemale.

Steve6 · 18 Sep 2010, 13:37

I agree the Bad for Good videos were very strange indeed, but what else would you expect from Mr Steinman? They looked cheap and tacky.

The Total Eclipse of the Heart video was done in a similar way but much much better. I've always questioned Jim's sexuality, and his music videos were very gay orientated.

Meat Loaf_fan · 18 Sep 2010, 20:53

Dance In My Pants
Rock And Roll Dreams
Bad For Good
Stark Raving Love
Surf's Up
Left In The Dark
Frying Pan
Lost Boys And Golden Girls
The Storm
Love & Death & An American Guitar

PS. Just imagine - this songs with Meat's voice (from 1984).

What a pity!

**Monstro** · 19 Sep 2010, 09:42

Can we keep this thread somewhere near it's intended topic please, thank you

Mr. Happy · 25 Sep 2010, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Meat Loaf_fan

PS. Just imagine - this songs with Meat's voice (from 1984).

What a pity!

I'd kill to hear Meat sing the original Left in the Dark and Surf's Up D: Even if it was with his Dead Ringer period voice (which really wasn't that bad, IMO), it'd be amazing

Steve6 · 26 Sep 2010, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Euphoria

I'd kill to hear Meat sing the original Left in the Dark and Surf's Up D: Even if it was with his Dead Ringer period voice (which really wasn't that bad, IMO), it'd be amazing

I wouldn't. His version of Surf's Up on Bad Attitude is brillant I was only listening to it in the morning. I think it's better than the one on BFG. Left in the dark on WTTN is solid enough probaly not as good as Jim version though; which was darker. I would like to hear the original RNR dreams that was recorded for Dead Ringer. I wonder how different it is from the one recorded in 1993, it had a different producer too.

Pudding · 26 Sep 2010, 21:56

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I would like to hear the original RNR dreams that was recorded for Dead Ringer. I wonder how different it is from the one recorded in 1993, it had a different producer too.

You'll have to explain your theory in how you think Meat Loaf had recorded RnRD for Dead Ringer?

**The Flying Mouse** · 26 Sep 2010, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Pudding

You'll have to explain your theory in how you think Meat Loaf had recorded RnRD for Dead Ringer?

I'm assuming that it's in reference to Storytellers, where Meat says he swaped R&RD for another song (Dead Ringer For Love?).

He may have swaped the song, but thre is no indication he recorded it before swapping.
In fact, I rather doubt it.

Wario · 26 Sep 2010, 22:04

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I'm assuming that it's in reference to Storytellers, where Meat says he swaped R&RD for another song (Dead Ringer For Love?).

He may have swaped the song, but thre is no indication he recorded it before swapping.
In fact, I rather doubt it.

he says he swapped it with jim during DRFL's commentary on MSO

Pudding · 26 Sep 2010, 22:07

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

he says he swapped it with jim during DRFL's commentary on MSO

So what? did he say he recorded it? You might swap a condom with a tampax, doesn't mean either one has been used

Wario · 26 Sep 2010, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Pudding

So what? did he say he recorded it? You might swap a condom with a tampax, doesn't mean either one has been used

wow i accidentally deleted my second sentence:

"He also stated that it was ON the record. and that Jim came and wanted to trade"

I took it as he did record it.

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17 Sep 2010, 11:04	#156
daveake 200% is the new 110% Join Date: 13.03.2005 Location: Newbury Posts: 2,983	I expect to see you miming to it on geriatrictube

18 Sep 2010, 01:05	#159
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	The videos were funny. Jim Steinman standing on that thing that was supposed to look like a rock, trying to make impressive gestures, the half-naked dancers...

18 Sep 2010, 01:15	#161
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	The videos were stupid and as Daveake pointed out I'm not sure either why Steinman has an obsession with almost naked male ballet dancers. Not exactly an image that comes to my mind when I listen to his music. Imo BFG would have been amazing when done with Meat's vocals from '83 onwards and would have probably sold millions and pretty much sealed the deal for more Meat/Steinman records if they at least could let management take a hike.

18 Sep 2010, 03:24	#165
GDW Super Loafer Join Date: 26.03.2010 Location: Perth Posts: 984	At least there is a girl in the videos. Or is it a Shemale.

18 Sep 2010, 13:37	#166
Steve6 Batman Join Date: 28.11.2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,690	I agree the Bad for Good videos were very strange indeed, but what else would you expect from Mr Steinman? They looked cheap and tacky. The Total Eclipse of the Heart video was done in a similar way but much much better. I've always questioned Jim's sexuality, and his music videos were very gay orientated.

18 Sep 2010, 20:53	#167
Meat Loaf_fan Super Loafer Join Date: 01.03.2008 Location: Gdańsk (Poland) Posts: 311	Dance In My Pants Rock And Roll Dreams Bad For Good Stark Raving Love Surf's Up Left In The Dark Frying Pan Lost Boys And Golden Girls The Storm Love & Death & An American Guitar PS. Just imagine - this songs with Meat's voice (from 1984). What a pity!

19 Sep 2010, 09:42	#168
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,945	Can we keep this thread somewhere near it's intended topic please, thank you