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12 Sep 2010, 00:45 | #52 |
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The facts of BFG were disputed by me, because a lot of the sources that I heard my info from were reliable.
Meat Loaf didn't like the songs on BFG he said that himself that's not a lie. Meat Loaf lost his voice around that period, and couldn't sing the songs..that was well documented. His relationship with Jim Steinman was starting to show cracks...that was also well documented.. I thought I was right about the contract, but Fireball cleared that up for me. Jim wasn't on the contract. But one thing that confuses me... Meat must have been on the contract to sing BFG aka Renegade Angel, because it WAS planned as the follow up to BOOH. I can't see why Jim would plan to do BFG without Meat. But the question is did Jim really get greedy then??? and go for self glory?? It could be something that will never get answered. |
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12 Sep 2010, 02:29 | #55 |
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Well I can only think of the one thing at the minute. But do you think he was originally contracted to sing BFG?
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12 Sep 2010, 11:22 | #57 | |
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get your facts right !!! All they had to do was wait a few more months there was no rush. What do they say" money is the root of all evil "!! Truth !! Last edited by Fire Ball; 12 Sep 2010 at 11:35. |
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m Read This, This is about right !! http://www.tv.com/interviews-for-bur...ws/145908.html Yes I wear my heart on a sleeve , and am a fighter, hate lies, and people who change history. but a teddy bear. been told by 100's I am too nice of a person. except for mad susan love that name mad susan!!! MAD SUSAN !!!!! DAM SANSU !! That's a good battle knight name. M |
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Meat. Maybe back in 1981 you could have used the best songs off Bad For Good and the best songs off Deadringer and called it Badringer, a double album. The first record sung by you and the second record by Jim. Just a thought.
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12 Sep 2010, 18:14 | #64 | |
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I feel sorry for Jim to be honest. BFG makes him look greedy, and a glory seeker, but it looked to me like he spent his whole career being pushed into doing things by the people around him, or influenced by others would be a better way of putting it, who wanted to use him. Maybe he was advised wrongly to push ahead and do BFG on his own by Sonenberg or someone else. When I listen to BFG the songs lack the perfection that you would assoicate with every Jim Steinman song released before it and after. I don't know why I think it, but I always got the feeling his heart wasn't in the right place when doing that album, and you would know it by listening to it. Last edited by Steve6; 12 Sep 2010 at 18:19. |
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I also don't hear the lack of perfection that you are on about. I think the BFG production is superb and only lacked Meat on vocals but it was interesting hearing some Steinman vocals too, I don't think he is such a terrible singer as many here seem to think. Dance in my pants was too childish imo and Stark Raving love was about nothing really, but at least we got a great guitar duel. Other than that it's a great collection of songs and the production on Left in the Dark / Surf's Up and Bad for Good is pretty much perfect I'd say, though the Brian May intro on Meat's version on BFG was a lovely touch. Rory singing on most of the difficult songs ("Surf's Up" in G!!!) is a bit of a farce though. Can't believe they got away with doing that. |
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12 Sep 2010, 19:08 | #67 |
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the thing I never understood:
If meat hated SRL and DIMP so much, why not let Jim sing those two songs and he do the rest? and why was the record company impatient? Didnt they realise that they had a bomb on there hands by ridding the album of the main guy? Man thats the proper term for stupid |
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I wouldn't call that unsure, it is much more striving for the perfection which you say isn't on the album. Yet in that case I think the decision for striving for vocal perfection is insanity when using an artist who is not even credited on the cover of the album. If I buy a Meat Loaf album, I don't expect Jim Steinman vocals and when I buy a Jim Steinman album I don't expect Rory Dodd vocals. |
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12 Sep 2010, 20:40 | #71 |
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If Meat had recorded BfG (or Renegade Angel or whatever it was going to be called) with a vocal that was as strong as it was on Bat, then it would IMO without a doubt have been the benchmark that every other subsequent artist was measured against when they released their "tricky second album".
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