American Idol Finale - Page 7

Jayd · 28 May 2006, 01:14

Meat has gave his thought's about the performance at meatloaf.net, he said that he could not hear the softer tone he started off with through his ear piece, but was back on track, by the word 'cryin'. He said he thought his voice sounded great after that point, which he was right.

AndrewG · 28 May 2006, 10:55

Meat Loaf in another article:

After performing a duet from his "Bat Out of Hell: The Monster's Loose" CD with McPhee, Meat Loaf advised potential singers to stick with it. "People will love you, then hate you, then love you again," said the singer, who jokingly expressed relief he wasn't arrested for being a 58-year-old at an otherwise youthful "Idol" show.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs...725866,00.html

razorball2002 · 28 May 2006, 14:26

hi do you know where on the net i can watch this performance? Please anybody, HELP!!!

Jayd · 28 May 2006, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorball2002

hi do you know where on the net i can watch this performance? Please anybody, HELP!!!

You can download it from my site at

http://www.afcturfhoppers.co.uk

Under non-footie page.

Oh, BTW, if anyone would like this video, from my site, please do it today, as it will be withdrawn by later tonight, I say most has seen it now anyways.

Jay

meatloaf-unofficial · 28 May 2006, 18:27

here are some more photos from the show. Thanks again to Dottie

I hope you all like them - call it a bit of a suvineer of Meat Loaf in May 2006.

SuperLoafMan · 28 May 2006, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by dottie

one bit I spotted was David Boreanaz talking to his son and saying "thats Meat Loaf" good to see that indoctrination starts early.....

I was wondering what he said, I did think he said to his son that was Meat Loaf.....Gotta be a big fan then!!

BadAttitude · 28 May 2006, 19:00

Yes, it was a bit of a slow start as I attributed to the fact that the song had been slow down to accommodate McPhee singing style versus that of Meats.

I also though that after the slow start it was great, at least on Meat’s part; his voice was strong and clear. I did not care to much for McPhee as she did not interact much with Meat, I didn’t feel that Meat had much to feed of off in the duet with McPhee at least seeming to me to be singing off into the distance rather then to Meat. At first, I attributed that to her lack of experience but then after further reflection I felt that I was glad that she lost, if she cannot take advantage of such an excellent opportunity to really get into a song with Meat.

Over all except for Meat’s slow start I thought that he sounded great and I cannot wait for Bat III, also “The Monster is Loose”, has really blown me and my daughter away, Meat’s voice is strong and vibrant.

Not to mention that Meat looked hot.

Great job Meat, thanks for everything.

Charlene (Bad Attitude)

meatloaf-unofficial · 28 May 2006, 19:35

I think Meat performed a good song that night and that even though people say he started funny - you just couldn't tell

Caelan · 28 May 2006, 20:30

he did a good job...thanks Meat

Pudding · 29 May 2006, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

I think Meat performed a good song that night and that even though people say he started funny - you just couldn't tell

Yes it was a good song

Pud

Ross · 29 May 2006, 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

I think Meat performed a good song that night and that even though people say he started funny - you just couldn't tell

I don't understand you here - You just couldn't tell? Unfortunetly, I think it was rather obvious something was funny with the opening line or 2.

meatloaf-unofficial · 29 May 2006, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

I don't understand you here - You just couldn't tell? Unfortunetly, I think it was rather obvious something was funny with the opening line or 2.

I am sorry to say Ross that - really I must be a to bigger fan that I did not notice or I was too into the song to tell.

I hope this answers your question

Jayd · 05 Jun 2006, 18:45

Well Kat McPhee must have made an impression, looks like Steven Spielberg wants to cast her as Dorothy in a remake of Wizard Of Oz. This might be off-topic, but I thought I would put it here. http://breathoffreshink.com/steven-s...e-in-oz-remake

Debbi V · 05 Jun 2006, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

I am sorry to say Ross that - really I must be a to bigger fan that I did not notice or I was too into the song to tell.

I hope this answers your question

Just saw your post, Unofficial, so this may seem a 'day late and a dollar short".

I have to ask you . . . . why did you find it necessary to bring up the whole "I must be a bigger fan than you" argument? This is in no way intended as a "bash" against you. Just an observation since, in the past, there have been way too many "board wars" over who is the bigger fan resulting in hurt feelings and the loss of some really great people from the boards. I think we can all agree that we're ALL fans - no one of us is any better than the other.

Personally, I've been a fan since the seventies and I can honestly say that there have been some performances where Meat has been, shall we say, a tad "off". I too thought the beginning of It's All Coming Back was a bit, I don't know . . . slow, fuzzy, weird . . . I'm not sure, but it didn't sound quite right. I chalk it up to the sound since it seemed a bit garbled and choppy to me. Meat has already stated that he could not hear the first few bars of the song through his ear piece so let's just leave it at that, shall we?

AndrewG · 05 Jun 2006, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd

Well Kat McPhee must have made an impression, looks like Steven Spielberg wants to cast her as Dorothy in a remake of Wizard Of Oz. This might be off-topic, but I thought I would put it here. http://breathoffreshink.com/steven-s...e-in-oz-remake

Quite interesting Jayd. I actualy think it's about time Spielberg directed a musical. Maybe Meat Loaf could be in it??

The Wiz had some cracking songs too; "Ease on down the road" is great, but the movie wasn't so good I thought. No doubt Spielberg would do a great job with this.

Pudding · 06 Jun 2006, 09:31

Christ, haven't they already done a remake of the Wizard of Oz

Besides, I thought Dorothy was about 14

Pud

Jayd · 06 Jun 2006, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

Christ, haven't they already done a remake of the Wizard of Oz

Besides, I thought Dorothy was about 14

Pud

I agree, she was about 14 in the film, but the way 14 year old's dress and act nowadays, I suppose Kat McPhee could pass for one.

gerard359 · 06 Jun 2006, 11:32

Hi everyone,

It has been a long time since I have posted, the reason been the last time I posted was deleted, because it was deemed only to cause problems. I will keep this message short, sweet and controversy free hopefully, which will aim at hopefully preventing the messages from being deleted.
Here we are once again, a great divide, people saying how fantastic meat is, then people slating his perfomance. This is a Meat fan club, and although we need to hear both good and bad reviews, we do not need to hear people viciously criticising. I have seen the perfomance, Meats opening lines were a bit flat, but so the hell what? Was it just me thinking that in some strange way, even off key Meat sounded absolutely amazing, with one of the most incredible voices ever? My god, if i could sound near as off-key as he did that night, then i would be straight to the recording studio. We do not need to fight about who is the greatest fan, we do not need to turn a blind eye to the "occasional" slip up, but we need to realise that this is all about enjoy the music of Meat. Silly arguments such as which songs are best are irrelevant. I for one can only imagine that in 6 months time, we will be thanking the stars above, that we now have a version of Its all coming back to me now, performed by who we all love, and dreamed we would here when listening to Pandoras Box original great version.

Bat 3 is coming,
Could we ever dream of anything more. Did we really ever think it would happen?
Please remember what mlukfc is all about.

Gerard A.

Jackoutofhell · 06 Jun 2006, 20:01

Well Said -

hayley · 07 Jun 2006, 01:33

Right on

Debbi V · 07 Jun 2006, 06:07

You said it much better than I!! Thanks

AndrewG · 11 Jun 2006, 11:35

I don't really like to scrutinise performances but I think all the negative (scrutunising) comments are just forcing me to have a more detailed opinion (sorry folks):

My final scrutunised view on the AI performance:

* Meat sings the second line "That my body frooze in bed if I'd listend to the wind right outside the window" a bit too fast (he said he could not hear himself sing at that point).
* Kat's solo start is excellent
* The "You and I had ever made .... baby baby baby" part is great I think, synchronised and perfectly in tune
* Meat sings the "When you touch me like this... hold me like that" bit quite well. I personally do not like Kat's low dropping answers here (you can especially hear that in the way she sings "That" in this part twice).
* Meat does the middle bit well IMO leading up to the "...Now" bit and if you listen he is singing for around 50 seconds solid with no time for a breath almost.
* The "if I forgive you all that, forgive you all this" bit .. is almost spoken by Meat. Kat complements this really well I think. "Forgive and forget" again is almost spoken by Meat but he then carries the tune really well in "...and it's all coming back to me now". Listen closely and you can hear that it is actually Kat who is almost out of tune here! She sings this part a bit too low than the melody really is.
* Kat quickly recovers with her howling: "It's all coming back to me".
* Meat fills in with "if we forgive and forget" and together they then sing "and it's all coming back to me now". At that point Meat has a little bit trouble with the word "coming".

So that's my opinion. I still think Meat did really well. Fair enough his voice has changed over the last 20 years. I certainly do not think he sung anything flat during that performance. His voice is maybe not just as powerful now as during the 87-93 touring days (at least live - on "monster" he sounds pretty much the same to me as on Bat 2/WTTN/CHSIB). But to me his voice is still very distuingishable and simply is Meat Loaf: Loud, massive range and brings emotion to the songs where it should be. I think all these press reviews of people leaving the room when he was on etc are just daft. There have always been lots of people who do not like Meat Loaf or Steinman (like Meat said himself: "you either absolutely love "Bat out of Hell" or you absolutely hate it). The fact that he was on AI (one of the biggest broadcasted shows he has ever done I think) has just sparked some people to write about him for the first time I suppose. To me personally a lot of people who do not like Meat Loaf / Jim Steinman music are badly informed and have never even given him or the music a chance. For example one of my colleagues is well into Goth rock (Evanescene, Nightwish etc) yet he refuses to even listen to "Monster", why? Cause it's Meat Loaf. Quite ironic as I've listened to lots of stuff he usually plays (in addition of trying these great goth rock bands he gave me cds from Iron Maiden, Metallica etc and I am quite open to new music so played them even if it was just out of respect for the guy. Shame he cannot show that respect back to me but instead make jokes about Meat Loaf).
I just think a lot of negative press came from the fact that it was just Meat Loaf singing with Kat rather than how and what he sang.

Pudding · 11 Jun 2006, 11:57

What posts or online articles have you read recently that has forced you to respond?

Pud

AndrewG · 11 Jun 2006, 12:03

Nothing particular in the last couple of days. I was just re-reading this thread along with the articles you pointed out yourself and other posts on .net and js.com. I think there has been a lot scruntinsation of this performance, I just wanted to post my opinion on all the parts of that short song and why I think there has been quite a few negative online articles.

Retro900 · 11 Jun 2006, 22:39

Are you people that deluded that you think the AI performance was good.
The Singing was flat, and he could not carry the tune.

Since 1980 i have seen Meatloaf 24 times live, and sad to say this was an apalling performance, and i believe if it was not integral to the show in would have been axed.
The worst i've seen in 25 years, i have subseuetly read the he had "stage fright" which would explain a lot.

But don't delude yourself the performance was dire

11 Jun 2006, 11:35	#172
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,085	I don't really like to scrutinise performances but I think all the negative (scrutunising) comments are just forcing me to have a more detailed opinion (sorry folks): My final scrutunised view on the AI performance: * Meat sings the second line "That my body frooze in bed if I'd listend to the wind right outside the window" a bit too fast (he said he could not hear himself sing at that point). * Kat's solo start is excellent * The "You and I had ever made .... baby baby baby" part is great I think, synchronised and perfectly in tune * Meat sings the "When you touch me like this... hold me like that" bit quite well. I personally do not like Kat's low dropping answers here (you can especially hear that in the way she sings "That" in this part twice). * Meat does the middle bit well IMO leading up to the "...Now" bit and if you listen he is singing for around 50 seconds solid with no time for a breath almost. * The "if I forgive you all that, forgive you all this" bit .. is almost spoken by Meat. Kat complements this really well I think. "Forgive and forget" again is almost spoken by Meat but he then carries the tune really well in "...and it's all coming back to me now". Listen closely and you can hear that it is actually Kat who is almost out of tune here! She sings this part a bit too low than the melody really is. * Kat quickly recovers with her howling: "It's all coming back to me". * Meat fills in with "if we forgive and forget" and together they then sing "and it's all coming back to me now". At that point Meat has a little bit trouble with the word "coming". So that's my opinion. I still think Meat did really well. Fair enough his voice has changed over the last 20 years. I certainly do not think he sung anything flat during that performance. His voice is maybe not just as powerful now as during the 87-93 touring days (at least live - on "monster" he sounds pretty much the same to me as on Bat 2/WTTN/CHSIB). But to me his voice is still very distuingishable and simply is Meat Loaf: Loud, massive range and brings emotion to the songs where it should be. I think all these press reviews of people leaving the room when he was on etc are just daft. There have always been lots of people who do not like Meat Loaf or Steinman (like Meat said himself: "you either absolutely love "Bat out of Hell" or you absolutely hate it). The fact that he was on AI (one of the biggest broadcasted shows he has ever done I think) has just sparked some people to write about him for the first time I suppose. To me personally a lot of people who do not like Meat Loaf / Jim Steinman music are badly informed and have never even given him or the music a chance. For example one of my colleagues is well into Goth rock (Evanescene, Nightwish etc) yet he refuses to even listen to "Monster", why? Cause it's Meat Loaf. Quite ironic as I've listened to lots of stuff he usually plays (in addition of trying these great goth rock bands he gave me cds from Iron Maiden, Metallica etc and I am quite open to new music so played them even if it was just out of respect for the guy. Shame he cannot show that respect back to me but instead make jokes about Meat Loaf). I just think a lot of negative press came from the fact that it was just Meat Loaf singing with Kat rather than how and what he sang. Last edited by AndrewG; 11 Jun 2006 at 11:48.

11 Jun 2006, 22:39	#175
Retro900 Banned Join Date: 21.03.2006 Posts: 11	Deluded Are you people that deluded that you think the AI performance was good. The Singing was flat, and he could not carry the tune. Since 1980 i have seen Meatloaf 24 times live, and sad to say this was an apalling performance, and i believe if it was not integral to the show in would have been axed. The worst i've seen in 25 years, i have subseuetly read the he had "stage fright" which would explain a lot. But don't delude yourself the performance was dire

28 May 2006, 01:14	#151
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,314	Meat has gave his thought's about the performance at meatloaf.net, he said that he could not hear the softer tone he started off with through his ear piece, but was back on track, by the word 'cryin'. He said he thought his voice sounded great after that point, which he was right.

28 May 2006, 10:55	#152
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,085	Meat Loaf in another article: After performing a duet from his "Bat Out of Hell: The Monster's Loose" CD with McPhee, Meat Loaf advised potential singers to stick with it. "People will love you, then hate you, then love you again," said the singer, who jokingly expressed relief he wasn't arrested for being a 58-year-old at an otherwise youthful "Idol" show. http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs...725866,00.html

28 May 2006, 14:26	#153
razorball2002 Guest Join Date: 20.03.2006 Posts: 86	hi do you know where on the net i can watch this performance? Please anybody, HELP!!!

28 May 2006, 18:27	#155
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	here are some more photos from the show. Thanks again to Dottie I hope you all like them - call it a bit of a suvineer of Meat Loaf in May 2006.

28 May 2006, 19:00	#157
BadAttitude Super Loafer Join Date: 19.11.2003 Location: Florida Posts: 482	Yes, it was a bit of a slow start as I attributed to the fact that the song had been slow down to accommodate McPhee singing style versus that of Meats. I also though that after the slow start it was great, at least on Meat’s part; his voice was strong and clear. I did not care to much for McPhee as she did not interact much with Meat, I didn’t feel that Meat had much to feed of off in the duet with McPhee at least seeming to me to be singing off into the distance rather then to Meat. At first, I attributed that to her lack of experience but then after further reflection I felt that I was glad that she lost, if she cannot take advantage of such an excellent opportunity to really get into a song with Meat. Over all except for Meat’s slow start I thought that he sounded great and I cannot wait for Bat III, also “The Monster is Loose”, has really blown me and my daughter away, Meat’s voice is strong and vibrant. Not to mention that Meat looked hot. Great job Meat, thanks for everything. Charlene (Bad Attitude)

28 May 2006, 19:35	#158
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I think Meat performed a good song that night and that even though people say he started funny - you just couldn't tell

28 May 2006, 20:30	#159
Caelan life is one big adventure Join Date: 23.06.2005 Location: some town in Alberta called Leduc Posts: 5,550	he did a good job...thanks Meat

05 Jun 2006, 18:45	#163
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,314	Well Kat McPhee must have made an impression, looks like Steven Spielberg wants to cast her as Dorothy in a remake of Wizard Of Oz. This might be off-topic, but I thought I would put it here. http://breathoffreshink.com/steven-s...e-in-oz-remake

06 Jun 2006, 09:31	#166
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Christ, haven't they already done a remake of the Wizard of Oz Besides, I thought Dorothy was about 14 Pud

06 Jun 2006, 11:32	#168
gerard359 Junior Loafer Join Date: 31.03.2003 Posts: 40	Hi everyone, It has been a long time since I have posted, the reason been the last time I posted was deleted, because it was deemed only to cause problems. I will keep this message short, sweet and controversy free hopefully, which will aim at hopefully preventing the messages from being deleted. Here we are once again, a great divide, people saying how fantastic meat is, then people slating his perfomance. This is a Meat fan club, and although we need to hear both good and bad reviews, we do not need to hear people viciously criticising. I have seen the perfomance, Meats opening lines were a bit flat, but so the hell what? Was it just me thinking that in some strange way, even off key Meat sounded absolutely amazing, with one of the most incredible voices ever? My god, if i could sound near as off-key as he did that night, then i would be straight to the recording studio. We do not need to fight about who is the greatest fan, we do not need to turn a blind eye to the "occasional" slip up, but we need to realise that this is all about enjoy the music of Meat. Silly arguments such as which songs are best are irrelevant. I for one can only imagine that in 6 months time, we will be thanking the stars above, that we now have a version of Its all coming back to me now, performed by who we all love, and dreamed we would here when listening to Pandoras Box original great version. Bat 3 is coming, Could we ever dream of anything more. Did we really ever think it would happen? Please remember what mlukfc is all about. Gerard A.

06 Jun 2006, 20:01	#169
Jackoutofhell Super Loafer Join Date: 13.03.2006 Posts: 369	Well Said -

07 Jun 2006, 01:33	#170
hayley Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.08.2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,088	Right on

07 Jun 2006, 06:07	#171
Debbi V Mega Loafer Join Date: 31.10.2003 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 1,364	You said it much better than I!! Thanks

11 Jun 2006, 11:57	#173
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	What posts or online articles have you read recently that has forced you to respond? Pud

11 Jun 2006, 12:03	#174
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,085	Nothing particular in the last couple of days. I was just re-reading this thread along with the articles you pointed out yourself and other posts on .net and js.com. I think there has been a lot scruntinsation of this performance, I just wanted to post my opinion on all the parts of that short song and why I think there has been quite a few negative online articles.