FAN CAMPAIGN SINGLE: LIKE A ROSE - Page 4

Jayd · 04 Jun 2010, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Your bank account?

Pudding · 04 Jun 2010, 23:16

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Yes, he is.

And his thoughts are?

CarylB · 04 Jun 2010, 23:34

You'd need to ask him:) He knows, and he and his PA have been kept informed.

Pudding · 04 Jun 2010, 23:49

So you have no clue if he's for or against it?

CarylB · 05 Jun 2010, 00:02

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=117

Pudding · 05 Jun 2010, 07:07

Cheers. I don't read every single post so I missed it.

Sarge · 05 Jun 2010, 14:10

I read an FHM interview in which Meat states that he dislikes the fact that you can purchase individual songs from an album via download stores. So does this campaign actually promote and will he possibly benefit from something he used to criticize?

robgomm · 05 Jun 2010, 20:48

Yeah he dislikes it but until the rules change he's just got to accept it i'm afraid as have we all. I don't agree with it either by the way. And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

robgomm · 05 Jun 2010, 20:50

On another note, I know we have the facebook group which has over 800 members now, but has someone made sure that the link to that group has been posted on all the other Meat Loaf fan groups on facebook? Because there's another 3,000+ members combined on those other groups. I'm surprised we don't have at least this number of members on our group by now.

AndrewG · 05 Jun 2010, 20:58

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Originally Posted by robgomm

Yeah he dislikes it but until the rules change he's just got to accept it i'm afraid as have we all. I don't agree with it either by the way. And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

I seriously doubt this is MORE promotion and would/will reach more people than the things the record company and Meat Loaf have done and will be doing (touring etc)...

I do see drawbacks with this campaign but if I point these out I will be shot down. Some may say rightly so I guess.

A Slice Of English · 05 Jun 2010, 20:58

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Originally Posted by robgomm

On another note, I know we have the facebook group which has over 800 members now, but has someone made sure that the link to that group has been posted on all the other Meat Loaf fan groups on facebook? Because there's another 3,000+ members combined on those other groups. I'm surprised we don't have at least this number of members on our group by now.

The discussion over how the campaign was conducted has been closed, but I would nudge you in that threads direction to have a read if you want to see what others have thought about the promotion/presentation of the campaign.

Sarge · 05 Jun 2010, 21:04

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Originally Posted by robgomm

Yeah he dislikes it [...] And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

The album in its entirety seems to be very important to Meat. He even "forced" people to listen to the whole thing. Shouldn't a single promote the album? The campaign concentrates very much on the song and the involvement of Jack Black. There are hardly references to the album.

A Slice Of English · 05 Jun 2010, 21:09

Better not to discuss it Sarge. The team are working so hard that they shouldn't have to deal with criticism on top of that.

Sarge · 05 Jun 2010, 21:13

It's not criticism, just an observation.

duke knooby · 06 Jun 2010, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Shouldn't a single promote the album?

if youre going old school, and using singles as promotion for an album, then yes... but that song choice isn't a single, and i believe the campaign is just trying to get meat back into the charts... and then take any promo on for future releases or album work from there

btw, excellent point... the album should be promoted at least as much!!!

Pudding · 06 Jun 2010, 02:35

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

Sue K · 06 Jun 2010, 03:08

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

i voted for it ... i'm listening to it right now ... and i really like it ... i'm old school ... "it's catchy... i can chair dance to it... " ... i don't care much for Jack Black... i find that Destiny or whatever the band of his is called not my cup of tea... quite frankly Jack Black's antics on film are not my cup of tea either... a bit over the top ala Jim Carey for my taste ... but i'm aware he's popular with younger folks ... or popular period... and i think it's a good song to push to get attention ...

i like the little rap in the beginning.. i'm not a fan of rap... but that bit reminds me of a more gentler earlier old school rap sound ... along the lines of Run DMC when they got together with Aerosmith ... Walk This Way ... you know... one rapper/ singer starts and the other comes in/ talks over ... and i like the pause in Rose ... and the take off of the music...

if this forum was Bandstand i'd rate Rose 95 ... because i like the sound and can dance to it ...

... here's hoping i'll be rockin' out to it when i see 'Imself in concert next month !!!

CarylB · 06 Jun 2010, 03:44

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

There was a first poll here on the UK forum, then the top 4 from that were put to the vote again:
Like A Rose 37%
If It Rains 22.86%
Elvis in Vegas 21.43%
If I Can't Have You 18.57%

So it was chosen by the fans here who voted. I'd have been happy to promote any of them, but I too think Like A Rose is catchy, has a raunchy edge which broadens its appeal imo, and because it's a duet can appeal to a wider audience than Meat Loaf fans.

Now you know why two people voted for it :) Can't speak for the rest.

Caryl

Pudding · 06 Jun 2010, 04:22

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Originally Posted by tink

if this forum was Bandstand i'd rate Rose 95 ...

What's Bandstand?

Sue K · 06 Jun 2010, 04:27

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Originally Posted by Pudding

What's Bandstand?

a show hosted by Dick Clark back in the late 50s through ... the late 80s early 90s ? here in the States ... one of the features of the show was to play a new release and have a couple teens rate it ... it really became a bit of a satiric and catch phrase thing to say similar lines said on the show... ie ... "i give it a 75 ... it's got a good beat and i can dance to it" ... lol ...

however... lol ... i was quite sincere when i said similar about Like A Rose ! ...

...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bandstand

man ... lol ... the internet is great... lol ... there we go ... lol ...

Pudding · 06 Jun 2010, 10:30

Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me

Thanks for the explanation though.

What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1

Sarge · 06 Jun 2010, 10:48

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

but that song choice isn't a single

It is called "the fan campaign single", so I'd expect at least a few traditional single features.

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

i believe the campaign is just trying to get meat back into the charts... and then take any promo on for future releases or album work from there

I rather do not express my thoughts on this. I'm afraid it would depress me...

AndrewG · 06 Jun 2010, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Pudding

What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1

I think number 1 would be very hard the week from the 14th considering the World Cup song and Eminem's new single are out then in the UK.

Sue K · 06 Jun 2010, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me

Thanks for the explanation though.

you're welcome... and thank you actually... i enjoyed the trip down memory lane via America Bandstand's wikipedia entry ! ...

robgomm · 06 Jun 2010, 23:56

To be honest I don't know we'll get anywhere as we don't appear to have many members right now, hopefully it's really going to grow through this week. But i'm gonna keep on pushing anyway, it's been a fun little project for me.

I don't know how many sales you need to get into the top 40 these days? Perhaps someone could tell us who was no. 40 last week and how many they sold?

05 Jun 2010, 14:10	#82
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	I read an FHM interview in which Meat states that he dislikes the fact that you can purchase individual songs from an album via download stores. So does this campaign actually promote and will he possibly benefit from something he used to criticize? Last edited by Sarge; 05 Jun 2010 at 14:18. Reason: spelling

04 Jun 2010, 23:34	#78
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	You'd need to ask him:) He knows, and he and his PA have been kept informed.

04 Jun 2010, 23:49	#79
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	So you have no clue if he's for or against it?

05 Jun 2010, 00:02	#80
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=117

05 Jun 2010, 07:07	#81
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Cheers. I don't read every single post so I missed it.

05 Jun 2010, 20:48	#83
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	Yeah he dislikes it but until the rules change he's just got to accept it i'm afraid as have we all. I don't agree with it either by the way. And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

05 Jun 2010, 20:50	#84
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	On another note, I know we have the facebook group which has over 800 members now, but has someone made sure that the link to that group has been posted on all the other Meat Loaf fan groups on facebook? Because there's another 3,000+ members combined on those other groups. I'm surprised we don't have at least this number of members on our group by now.

05 Jun 2010, 21:09	#88
A Slice Of English Guest Join Date: 10.11.2003 Posts: 1,258	Better not to discuss it Sarge. The team are working so hard that they shouldn't have to deal with criticism on top of that.

05 Jun 2010, 21:13	#89
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	It's not criticism, just an observation.

06 Jun 2010, 02:35	#91
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

06 Jun 2010, 10:30	#96
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me Thanks for the explanation though. What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1

06 Jun 2010, 23:56	#100
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	To be honest I don't know we'll get anywhere as we don't appear to have many members right now, hopefully it's really going to grow through this week. But i'm gonna keep on pushing anyway, it's been a fun little project for me. I don't know how many sales you need to get into the top 40 these days? Perhaps someone could tell us who was no. 40 last week and how many they sold?