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Guppie · 25 Jun 2003, 11:21

okay: Rear view mirror: when you translate that litterally, it is "achteruit kijk spiegel" ,like Asha says. But nobody calls that mirror an "achteruit kijk spiegel", it's called a "binnenspiegel"

Bren · 25 Jun 2003, 11:36

Dank je wel, for the explanation Guppie, it's appreciated. Iunderstand now

Asha, i'll have a think and let you know.

Silvian1972 · 25 Jun 2003, 13:04

Let's start with lesson 1 of QT's MLUKFC.com learning-Dutch-education:
Ik will give you some words, who are important for understand the site and forum, and there meanings:

ouwehoeren= talking about unimportant things

Hartelijk bedankt (Thank you very much) for the translation of this word. LeeGer in the Dutch forum was asking me, if I can also "ouwehoeren" in Dutch. Now I understand it! You never stop learning.

Thank you very much for your great site!! And groetjes to Guppie!!!

See you!!

Michel · 25 Jun 2003, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paveway

Soon We will take over the world...

Eh...sorry, wrong forum

And this forum.

Forgot to read that you were posting on the wrong forum.

Guppie · 25 Jun 2003, 21:47

Groetjes right back at ya, Silvian

And about the take-over, Mich? I have [shark-modus], Pave is a tank and R. won't let you either

And don't forget Satan's on this board too, he he..

QT · 27 Jun 2003, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guppie

okay: Rear view mirror: when you translate that litterally, it is "achteruit kijk spiegel" ,like Asha says. But nobody calls that mirror an "achteruit kijk spiegel", it's called a "binnenspiegel"

Am I Nobody??

We call it a "achteruitkijkspiegel", and I've looked in my dutch "woordenboek"(= book in which you can look for the meaning of difficult words) and in that the word "achteruitkijkspiegel" is mentioned! So it is a correct dutch word! But the word "Binnenspiegel" I can not find!!!
I personally never knew the word "binnenspiegel" but called it always "achteruitkijkspiegel". The first time I heard the first word was when I learned to drive a car. The teacher used that word to make a difference between the mirror inside the car ("binnenspiegel") and the mirror outside the car by the door ("buitenspiegel")

For the foreign readers who are really confused about this post: the dutch word is "achteruitkijkspiegel" but in "Brabo-land"where Guppie comes from they use "binnenspiegel"

The chorus from "Objects"in dutch:

Het was lang geleden en het was ver weg, oh god het lijkt zo erg ver.
Maar als het leven net een snelweg is, dan is je ziel net de auto
en objecten in de achteruitkijkspiegel kunnen dichterbij lijken dan ze zijn.

QT · 27 Jun 2003, 10:32

I've taken a look at "van Dale" (www.vandale.nl) en that dictionary (I remember the word) also knows "binnenspiegel"

ach·ter·uit·kijk·spie·gel (de ~ (m.))
1 spiegeltje aan een auto of motorfiets waarin men de situatie op de weg achter zich kan zien

bin·nen·spie·gel (de ~ (m.))
1 achteruitkijkspiegel in een auto

Conclusion: The "binnenspiegel" is the rear view mirror inside the car.
The "achteruitkijkspiegel"can be used for all kinds of rear view mirrors

Bren · 27 Jun 2003, 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by QT

Am I Nobody??

We call it a "achteruitkijkspiegel", and I've looked in my dutch "woordenboek"(= book in which you can look for the meaning of difficult words) and in that the word "achteruitkijkspiegel" is mentioned! So it is a correct dutch word! But the word "Binnenspiegel" I can not find!!!
I personally never knew the word "binnenspiegel" but called it always "achteruitkijkspiegel". The first time I heard the first word was when I learned to drive a car. The teacher used that word to make a difference between the mirror inside the car ("binnenspiegel") and the mirror outside the car by the door ("buitenspiegel")

For the foreign readers who are really confused about this post: the dutch word is "achteruitkijkspiegel" but in "Brabo-land"where Guppie comes from they use "binnenspiegel"

The chorus from "Objects"in dutch:

Het was lang geleden en het was ver weg, oh god het lijkt zo erg ver.
Maar als het leven net een snelweg is, dan is je ziel net de auto
en objecten in de achteruitkijkspiegel kunnen dichterbij lijken dan ze zijn.

Dank je wel QT.

this is certainly confusing

but i understand you explanation well enough.

woordenboek=dictionary

Bren

Asha · 27 Jun 2003, 21:21

Bren, Ik hoop dat je een goede dag hebt gehad?

You see bren, even we are confused over our own language :)

So no wonder you are confused as well..

I really had a ball (meant well) over your sentences, I was thinking all the time if there were more ways to say them then one, hehe, even my boyfriend helped.

Goedenavond,
Asha

Bren · 27 Jun 2003, 23:39

Goedenavond Asha,
Dank je wel.Hoe gaat het vanavond met je? Ik hoop dat alles goed is.
Ik zal er een poosje niet zijn,ik ga naar mijn ouders,at the weekend.
The last bit i'm very unsure of

it's supposed to say..i won't be about for a while 'i'm going to my parents at the weekend.
If it says nothing of the sort ,then i apologise.

i have plenty more i wish to ask, depends how infinite your patience is

goodenavond
Bren

Asha · 27 Jun 2003, 23:43

Hi Bren, if you wanted to say you are going to your parents for the weekend you could say: ik ga naar mijn ouders voor het weekend or I ben het weekend bij mijn ouders.. But what you wrote made perfect sense to me.

Bren just ask en if I have the time I'll answer for you, I enjoy it..

Asha

Bren · 27 Jun 2003, 23:56

Dank je wel Asha

Bren

Guppie · 28 Jun 2003, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by QT

I've taken a look at "van Dale" (www.vandale.nl) en that dictionary (I remember the word) also knows "binnenspiegel"

ach·ter·uit·kijk·spie·gel (de ~ (m.))
1 spiegeltje aan een auto of motorfiets waarin men de situatie op de weg achter zich kan zien

bin·nen·spie·gel (de ~ (m.))
1 achteruitkijkspiegel in een auto

Conclusion: The "binnenspiegel" is the rear view mirror inside the car.
The "achteruitkijkspiegel"can be used for all kinds of rear view mirrors

If you have driving-lessons, they never say e.g. if you have to make a right turn "achteruitkijkspiegel/rechterschouder" , they say "binnenspiegel/rechterschouder"
I never heard of "achteruitkijkspiegel"being used, but it makes sence for a motor, because on a bike you are not "binnen".

Sorry Bren for being even more confusing, but I studied translater English for a year (years back) and the only right translation for such a mirror in a car would have to be "binnenspiegel".

btw Bren: I saw your Dutch is improving by the minute

Bren · 28 Jun 2003, 22:08

Dank je wel Guppie

Guppie · 28 Jun 2003, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bren The Bat

Dank je wel Guppie

Graag gedaan, Bren (You're welcome

)

Bren · 29 Jun 2003, 00:25

Hallo Guppie ,hoe gaat het vanavond met je?

**SueW** · 29 Jun 2003, 00:31

Um, isn't this thread getting a bit off topic?

How about we keep this topic to only about the Dutch site and start a topic of Dutch lessons in the off topic thread?

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

mariella · 29 Jun 2003, 00:41

Hi Sue,

I was just about to suggest, the people from Holland could create a 'poll' about 'the rear-view mirror' at the off-topic-section, also!

Mariella

Guppie · 29 Jun 2003, 01:03

Poll about the rear view mirror? Totally uninteresting in my view. What's the use of having a poll about that? I don't get it. That would be stupid. Strange suggestion. I just don't get that, Mariella. I think you mean that as a joke, right?? Anyway, I'm not planning to make such a poll he he...

About the off topic: fine by me... let R. move the topic then. I've seen more topics going off topic over here ( and not just here, anywhere in general) than topics that stay ontopic.
He he... all forums seem the same, come to that.

I'm a member here, not a mod. So I myself can't move anything. Sorry. If R. gets online, he can move it to the offtopic section.

I'm sorry if all the response this topic had and if the Dutch lectures started by one of the Dutch fans were irritating to the rest. I can't help that. Don't feel responsible either.

Oh well... this can easily be resolved by R. or one of the mods to move the topic.

-edited: I wrote offtopic instead of ontopic

mariella · 29 Jun 2003, 01:20

Hi Guppy,

I think you missed the

in my post. That's allright, happens to me all the time.

Great day to you,

Mariella

Guppie · 29 Jun 2003, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariella

Hi Guppy,

I think you missed the

in my post. That's allright, happens to me all the time.

Great day to you,

Mariella

Whatever... I never mistake the lack of a

, nor the intention behind it.

mariella · 29 Jun 2003, 01:30

I agree, it's always the intention that is most important!

Great day to you,

Mariella

Bren · 29 Jun 2003, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by SueW

Um, isn't this thread getting a bit off topic?

How about we keep this topic to only about the Dutch site and start a topic of Dutch lessons in the off topic thread?

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

Apologiesfor wandering off topic Sue, was just genuinely interested.
Sorry
Bren.

Guppie, I am sorry,
Since it is my fault that this wandered off topic.I was the one who asked what the Dutch for various things was( out of very genuine interest)but i did not mean to cause problems here by doing so.
Sorry
Bren

Guppie · 29 Jun 2003, 14:00

No need to say sorry, Bren. There's no problem, not at all. If R. moves the topic or part of the topic to the offtopic section, we can still go on with the Dutch lessons. We'll make a Dutchy out of you yet

Bren · 29 Jun 2003, 15:31

Dank je wel Guppie

25 Jun 2003, 11:21	#51
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	okay: Rear view mirror: when you translate that litterally, it is "achteruit kijk spiegel" ,like Asha says. But nobody calls that mirror an "achteruit kijk spiegel", it's called a "binnenspiegel"

25 Jun 2003, 11:36	#52
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Dank je wel, for the explanation Guppie, it's appreciated. Iunderstand now Asha, i'll have a think and let you know.

25 Jun 2003, 13:04	#53
Silvian1972 Rookie Join Date: 19.06.2003 Location: Duisburg, Germany Posts: 5	Let's start with lesson 1 of QT's MLUKFC.com learning-Dutch-education: Ik will give you some words, who are important for understand the site and forum, and there meanings: ouwehoeren= talking about unimportant things Hartelijk bedankt (Thank you very much) for the translation of this word. LeeGer in the Dutch forum was asking me, if I can also "ouwehoeren" in Dutch. Now I understand it! You never stop learning. Thank you very much for your great site!! And groetjes to Guppie!!! See you!!

25 Jun 2003, 21:47	#55
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	Groetjes right back at ya, Silvian And about the take-over, Mich? I have [shark-modus], Pave is a tank and R. won't let you either And don't forget Satan's on this board too, he he..

27 Jun 2003, 10:32	#57
QT Loafer Join Date: 09.10.2002 Location: Wamel (Netherlands) Posts: 91	I've taken a look at "van Dale" (www.vandale.nl) en that dictionary (I remember the word) also knows "binnenspiegel" ach·ter·uit·kijk·spie·gel (de ~ (m.)) 1 spiegeltje aan een auto of motorfiets waarin men de situatie op de weg achter zich kan zien bin·nen·spie·gel (de ~ (m.)) 1 achteruitkijkspiegel in een auto Conclusion: The "binnenspiegel" is the rear view mirror inside the car. The "achteruitkijkspiegel"can be used for all kinds of rear view mirrors

27 Jun 2003, 21:21	#59
Asha Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.05.2003 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 1,356	Bren, Ik hoop dat je een goede dag hebt gehad? You see bren, even we are confused over our own language :) So no wonder you are confused as well.. I really had a ball (meant well) over your sentences, I was thinking all the time if there were more ways to say them then one, hehe, even my boyfriend helped. Goedenavond, Asha

27 Jun 2003, 23:39	#60
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Goedenavond Asha, Dank je wel.Hoe gaat het vanavond met je? Ik hoop dat alles goed is. Ik zal er een poosje niet zijn,ik ga naar mijn ouders,at the weekend. The last bit i'm very unsure of it's supposed to say..i won't be about for a while 'i'm going to my parents at the weekend. If it says nothing of the sort ,then i apologise. i have plenty more i wish to ask, depends how infinite your patience is goodenavond Bren

27 Jun 2003, 23:43	#61
Asha Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.05.2003 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 1,356	Hi Bren, if you wanted to say you are going to your parents for the weekend you could say: ik ga naar mijn ouders voor het weekend or I ben het weekend bij mijn ouders.. But what you wrote made perfect sense to me. Bren just ask en if I have the time I'll answer for you, I enjoy it.. Asha

27 Jun 2003, 23:56	#62
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Dank je wel Asha Bren

28 Jun 2003, 22:08	#64
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Dank je wel Guppie

29 Jun 2003, 00:25	#66
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Hallo Guppie ,hoe gaat het vanavond met je?

29 Jun 2003, 00:31	#67
SueW Moderator Join Date: 14.04.2002 Posts: 1,345	Um, isn't this thread getting a bit off topic? How about we keep this topic to only about the Dutch site and start a topic of Dutch lessons in the off topic thread? Sue http://www.KasimInfo.com

29 Jun 2003, 00:41	#68
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	Hi Sue, I was just about to suggest, the people from Holland could create a 'poll' about 'the rear-view mirror' at the off-topic-section, also! Mariella

29 Jun 2003, 01:03	#69
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	Poll about the rear view mirror? Totally uninteresting in my view. What's the use of having a poll about that? I don't get it. That would be stupid. Strange suggestion. I just don't get that, Mariella. I think you mean that as a joke, right?? Anyway, I'm not planning to make such a poll he he... About the off topic: fine by me... let R. move the topic then. I've seen more topics going off topic over here ( and not just here, anywhere in general) than topics that stay ontopic. He he... all forums seem the same, come to that. I'm a member here, not a mod. So I myself can't move anything. Sorry. If R. gets online, he can move it to the offtopic section. I'm sorry if all the response this topic had and if the Dutch lectures started by one of the Dutch fans were irritating to the rest. I can't help that. Don't feel responsible either. Oh well... this can easily be resolved by R. or one of the mods to move the topic. -edited: I wrote offtopic instead of ontopic

29 Jun 2003, 01:20	#70
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	Hi Guppy, I think you missed the in my post. That's allright, happens to me all the time. Great day to you, Mariella

29 Jun 2003, 01:30	#72
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	I agree, it's always the intention that is most important! Great day to you, Mariella

29 Jun 2003, 14:00	#74
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	No need to say sorry, Bren. There's no problem, not at all. If R. moves the topic or part of the topic to the offtopic section, we can still go on with the Dutch lessons. We'll make a Dutchy out of you yet

29 Jun 2003, 15:31	#75
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	Dank je wel Guppie