FIGHT TO SAVE HIS VOICE AND HIS CAREER! - Page 3

SamCat · 29 Jul 2008, 13:15

Please dont apologise hon XXX I think for another 2 weeks Heg is still a newbie after that we can get her(only joking Heg!!)

**Ankie** · 29 Jul 2008, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

Meat is a shadow of his former self, in the best sense. Last year he had reportedly ballooned to a massive 22st.

What does this mean?

AndrewG · 29 Jul 2008, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankie

What does this mean?

Article says his weight increased to something like 140kg during the 2007 tour. I think he said in the interview on the One Show he lost around 20kg between November and March or so.
Imperial measurements are useless.

**RadioMaster** · 29 Jul 2008, 17:37

140 kg?? never. I believe a lot of crap but I cant believe that.

100 maybe or max 110...

then again, the article said it was rumours that stated 22 stone, right?

djfierce · 29 Jul 2008, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankie

What does this mean?

They're just saying he has lost alot of weight Ankie

AndrewG · 29 Jul 2008, 17:51

Does seem a lot to me as well. I'd say he was/is something like 20 kilos less than those figures (ie more in the region of 100kg right now - even if it is that much).

**RadioMaster** · 29 Jul 2008, 17:56

didnt he claim he was ~140kg during the BOOH era?

24K · 29 Jul 2008, 17:59

I still work in lbs and stones

LOL...so 2.2lbs in a kilo..140 kilos means 22 stone. Not that i really care

LOL...

**RadioMaster** · 29 Jul 2008, 18:22

my unqualified guess would be that he was ~110 last year and is now ~90.

(if thats not obsessed fan stalking invading his privacy i dont know what is lol)

AndrewG · 29 Jul 2008, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

my unqualified guess would be that he was ~110 last year and is now ~90.

(if thats not obsessed fan stalking invading his privacy i dont know what is lol)

Please tell me his BMI, I need to know!

**RadioMaster** · 29 Jul 2008, 18:26

HIGH

there you have it

wonder if his is higher than mine

Pudding · 29 Jul 2008, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

I dont think anyone is damning Heg's question, at least I am not. This is simply a discussion on our views on how far we should go with duscussing Meat's private life.
Heg's post only caused it.
Sorry Heg if it appeared like we were criticising (sp?) you.

I agree. I wasn't criticising Heg one bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

And you guys did kinda jump on her about it!! I answered someones question once about Meat's private life and was politely told not to discuss it but if i'd been jumped on like that i would've been mortified and probably never posted again!!

That's a bit dramatic as no one jumped on her about it. The conversation might have taken off in a different direction but it wasn't in reference to Heg or about Heg. It's misinterpretations of people's posts like that that causes more problems than anything.

Pud

SamCat · 29 Jul 2008, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

That's a bit dramatic as no one jumped on her about it. The conversation might have taken off in a different direction but it wasn't in reference to Heg or about Heg. It's misinterpretations of people's posts like that that causes more problems than anything.

Pud

I'm sorry but you are wrong!! I was surprised at the replies especially from Andrew(whose a very well balanced person) I dont think his first post can be misinterpreted in anyway and nobody took time to explain to Heg that we just dont talk about Meats private life on here

I think what causes more problems on here is people being consistantly rude and then when offence is taken, blaming misinterpretation!!

MeatGrl1 · 30 Jul 2008, 00:21

I have just finally got around to reading this and thanks for finding and posting it Ross, it was a really good find and made a really enjoyable read

, made me smile in parts.

Pudding · 30 Jul 2008, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

I'm sorry but you are wrong!! I was surprised at the replies especially from Andrew(whose a very well balanced person) I dont think his first post can be misinterpreted in anyway and nobody took time to explain to Heg that we just dont talk about Meats private life on here

Andrew's first reply to Heg was balanced and not offensive at all. His second reply clarified his position: "Please do not leave. I do not dictate the rules and I am probably wrong here. I just do not want to be part of a discussion that I think could harm Meat's family. Don't take my word for it. But you are right they were an amazing couple together." And several people did take the time to comment that we don't talk about Meats private life on here.

Perhaps Heg is being a bit too sensitive about the comments, but I aint seeing anyone jumping on her about it. As I think Heg is a well liked person on the forum.

Pud

SamCat · 30 Jul 2008, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

Andrew's first reply to Heg was balanced and not offensive at all. His second reply clarified his position: "Please do not leave. I do not dictate the rules and I am probably wrong here. I just do not want to be part of a discussion that I think could harm Meat's family. Don't take my word for it. But you are right they were an amazing couple together." And several people did take the time to comment that we don't talk about Meats private life on here.

Perhaps Heg is being a bit too sensitive about the comments, but I aint seeing anyone jumping on her about it. As I think Heg is a well liked person on the forum.

Pud

I do not think that saying you will not visit a thread again is very balanced it struck me as a very strange thing for Andrew to say as he is usually the voice of reason on here!! At no point did i say anyone was offensive when i answered someones question about Meats private life i was told nicely that it wasn't discussed on here and that was the end of it!!
If Heg is being over sensitive about the comments then so am i and i think some people are just not sensitive enough!! Heg has only been on here a year even tho she has fitted in so well it feels like longer and i dont think this subject has come up in that time so she wouldn't know our unwritten rule about this!!

Pudding · 30 Jul 2008, 07:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

I do not think that saying you will not visit a thread again is very balanced it struck me as a very strange thing for Andrew to say as he is usually the voice of reason on here!!

It's strange and unbalanced that someone gave their opinion about a topic?... blimey, that is strange

Pud

Heg19 · 30 Jul 2008, 09:47

I had no idea that it was something not to be mentioned and no one did explain that to me at first, i was jumped on a bit and it's put me off posting slightly. But i'm ok i know now and i'm not over sensitive was just a bit shocked. i apologise that i mentioned it and thanks for the apologies i have received. Lets forget the whole thing. The article is very good though and really sweet and the picture with it is very VERY nice hehe!

SamCat · 30 Jul 2008, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

It's strange and unbalanced that someone gave their opinion about a topic?... blimey, that is strange

Pud

Misinterpretation is a wonderful thing isn't it!!!

AndrewG · 30 Jul 2008, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

Andrew(whose a very well balanced person)

That is probably not true. I have never claimed I am "balanced". In fact some people who know me privately will probably claim the exact opposite.

I would have posted my initial comment in response to anyone asking that question, it was not a personal attack. I merely voiced my opinion saying that I do not want to be part of a public internet discussion (where Meat posts himself) on why Meat and Lesley are divorced, nor do I actually want to be part of a "fan site" where such debates are deemed completely normal. There is no unwritten rule I followed, I used my own judgement to react like that. It was a spur of the moment thing, the way I usually post.

I know now that it seems to hurt people, so consider this my last post for a while.

**allrevvedup** · 30 Jul 2008, 19:04

are we still talking about this?

djfierce · 30 Jul 2008, 19:23

ok this has gotten stupid

I actually didnt mean Andrew personally, yes the original post was a bit abrasive but no more than that but my post was more about the reference to nutty fans and given that this convo sprouted from Heg's question i just felt it was a little off to be talking like that when she couldve felt like she was being tarred with the same brush. I just couldnt believe that out of quite an insightful interview all that was being discussed was his private life or whether it shouldnt be. Dont think its really fair to dump it all on Andrew, now can this be dropped please as you were all saying the same thing anyway

Quote:

"Pearl is so gifted and polite, with good manners

in my limited experience of meeting her, this is so true, i couldnt believe how sweet and and friendly she was, she actually made you feel like she wanted to meet you. If there is any justice in this world at all, which unfortunately there rarely is in this industry, then this girl will have an awesome career, great music,great voice and awesome person.

Heg19 · 30 Jul 2008, 20:09

" now can this be dropped please as you were all saying the same thing anyway

"

Please lets and i'm sorry that i started all this, now i know the unwritten rule i wont ask owt like that again! just be gentle with me though i'm learning this whole post thing lol.

Pudding · 31 Jul 2008, 05:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat

Misinterpretation is a wonderful thing isn't it!!!

I'm glad you got the sarcasm of my post

I did put a

at the end just incase.

Pud

belladonna-took · 01 Aug 2008, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heg19

" now can this be dropped please as you were all saying the same thing anyway

"

Please lets and i'm sorry that i started all this, now i know the unwritten rule i wont ask owt like that again! just be gentle with me though i'm learning this whole post thing lol.

I didn't know about the unwritten rule either Heg..and if i were you i would have felt that people thought i was being prurient and would have felt very upset indeed. Perhaps the unwritten rule about not referring to Meat's private life SHOULD be written somewhere because it can be deeply upsetting if one asks a taboo question with no idea that it will cause offence. I know that i am always mortified if one of my questions or remarks gets a disapproving response because i am a fan and am only here to celebrate Meat and his achievements. We are fans because Meat's music causes a very powerful emotional response in us. Therefore misunderstandings about our motives are going to be much more personally upsetting than if they were about something of less significance to us.
I hope this makes sense.

29 Jul 2008, 17:59	#58
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	I still work in lbs and stonesLOL...so 2.2lbs in a kilo..140 kilos means 22 stone. Not that i really careLOL...

29 Jul 2008, 13:15	#51
SamCat Hello Harry!!!! Join Date: 12.09.2006 Location: London Posts: 3,086	Please dont apologise hon XXX I think for another 2 weeks Heg is still a newbie after that we can get her(only joking Heg!!)

29 Jul 2008, 17:37	#54
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	140 kg?? never. I believe a lot of crap but I cant believe that. 100 maybe or max 110... then again, the article said it was rumours that stated 22 stone, right?

29 Jul 2008, 17:51	#56
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,083	Does seem a lot to me as well. I'd say he was/is something like 20 kilos less than those figures (ie more in the region of 100kg right now - even if it is that much).

29 Jul 2008, 17:56	#57
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	didnt he claim he was ~140kg during the BOOH era?

29 Jul 2008, 18:22	#59
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	my unqualified guess would be that he was ~110 last year and is now ~90. (if thats not obsessed fan stalking invading his privacy i dont know what is lol)

29 Jul 2008, 18:26	#61
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	HIGH there you have it wonder if his is higher than mine

30 Jul 2008, 00:21	#64
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I have just finally got around to reading this and thanks for finding and posting it Ross, it was a really good find and made a really enjoyable read , made me smile in parts.

30 Jul 2008, 09:47	#68
Heg19 Super Loafer Join Date: 12.08.2007 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 539	I had no idea that it was something not to be mentioned and no one did explain that to me at first, i was jumped on a bit and it's put me off posting slightly. But i'm ok i know now and i'm not over sensitive was just a bit shocked. i apologise that i mentioned it and thanks for the apologies i have received. Lets forget the whole thing. The article is very good though and really sweet and the picture with it is very VERY nice hehe!

30 Jul 2008, 19:04	#71
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,358	are we still talking about this?

30 Jul 2008, 20:09	#73
Heg19 Super Loafer Join Date: 12.08.2007 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 539	" now can this be dropped please as you were all saying the same thing anyway " Please lets and i'm sorry that i started all this, now i know the unwritten rule i wont ask owt like that again! just be gentle with me though i'm learning this whole post thing lol.