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Old 25 Jul 2003, 10:25   #51
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it makes sense to me.
Thanks Bart

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It makes sense to me too, because I hardly ever play the album-version.
Think that is what we are rating here, right
If so 7/10
If it's the live version 10/10

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Old 25 Jul 2003, 14:59   #52
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My score: in album 8
in concert 10
I agree White ! Like I've said before, it's just one of those songs you have to see to really enjoy it

In album --- Original version 7
In album --- Storytellers version 10 (it got me hooked on Meat !)
In concert ---- 11 /10 (can we go any higher?)

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I would say:
Album: 9 (original version)
In Concert: impossible to rate
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Old 25 Jul 2003, 23:37   #53
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it makes sense to me.
Thanks Bart

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It makes sense to me too, because I hardly ever play the album-version.
Think that is what we are rating here, right
If so 7/10
If it's the live version 10/10

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That's great Mariella I'm glad we think alike !
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Old 17 Sep 2003, 05:29   #54
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I still remember as if it was only yesterday. When I listened to the BOOH album for the first time, back in '77, as a seventeen year old kid. I was absolutly stunned by the 5 songs I'd listened to up to this point. And then Paradise started! Holy Cow!
Geniuos, absolute musical genious.
And little did I know I had yet to hear the best song on the album.
Got to give this the overblown 11/10 what else could it be?
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Old 16 Nov 2003, 07:40   #55
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Paradise rocks - 10/10
You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth, Dottie


Great plot, and vocals and music & everything else.

Original: 10
NOTP: 12
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Old 21 Nov 2003, 00:23   #56
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I agree with peat, three great songs in one, I even know the words to the baseball commentary off by heart (betya think im sad now lol)

10/10 for paradise, I'm sure you'll agree it deserves it!
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Old 07 Dec 2003, 20:46   #57
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I agree that paradise deserves 10 out of 10. Have got it as my ring tone

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Old 08 Dec 2003, 04:01   #58
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Have got it as my ring tone
Debs- I can scarcely contain my envy!!!! I have a stinky Verizon phone that does not offer a single Meat ring tone, so I had to settle for Honky Tonk Woman by the Stones. (Good one, true, but it's no Paradise!!!)

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Old 08 Dec 2003, 14:00   #59
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Absolutely classic Rock'n'Roll lust song (at least on the part of Meat!!!) - great tunes (all of them).

Vickip - you rate what you darn well like!!!

Wild_Honey - you've warmed me up

Anyway...

I reckon the original album version deserves about 9.75, and the live version 15/10!!! Really!
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Old 28 Dec 2003, 16:19   #60
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The first time I heard "Paradise" I have to admit that I just liked it. It was just a rock n' roll song!

Then I saw it live on MTV (The History Of Meat Loaf Live) in 94 and I thought:
What is this guy doing? .... okaaaayyyyy! he's having a ball for sure! and so am I!

Once I saw it really live I was amazed and speechless!

"Paradise" is a short movie... you can't separate the sound from the image!


9/10 on the album
11/10 live!

nb: december Wembley version was really nice... maybe a bit too theatrical... but I do love the last part of "Guess the animal!" and the jacket is the best I saw 'till now!

nb2: I have a wish about "Paradise" live... but I'll keep it for me! :P nothing naughty, just technicaly!
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Old 28 Dec 2003, 18:03   #61
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After id lie for you, and anything for love , The best duet with Mousie is paradise, when it gets to the arguing bit everyone goes ballistic. Love it
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Old 29 Dec 2003, 13:47   #62
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10/10

Hands up, who's tried this on kareoke?!!

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Old 03 Jan 2004, 13:10   #63
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Paradise is nice song. I laugh every time when I heard thet Play-by-play part. There is those background voices. 10/10
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Old 03 Jan 2004, 14:42   #64
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It's a great feel good song and for that alone it gets 9/10

(Dons flame proof suit)

I'm a little bored of it live now though, I know I've been lucky to see Meat live so many times, and I can appreciate why it is such a staple of his live shows, but for me I'd rather he used those 20 minutes for something else. Bat and Deadringer never seem to look tired and jaded, but Paradise does to me, it's become a bit of a parody of the great live song it was in my opinion. It's still good live don't get me wrong, but not as good as it has been, and there's such a wealth of material to choose from that I wish he'd drop the song now and again and give something else another chance.
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Old 03 Jan 2004, 14:56   #65
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but for me I'd rather he used those 20 minutes for something else
finally! someone else dares to say it! The best version of Paradise I've seen in years was done a couple of years ago on a Dutch TV show, where they did the single version (the heavily cut version without the play-by-play) live. Lasted about 5 minutes, and it rocked.
But for 'real' concerts, I'd say do it in 10 minutes or so (no extended make out sections, no elaborate fight scenes, just play the song) and use the time which comes available for A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste, Sailor To A Siren, Surf's Up, Execution Day or whatever.
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Old 05 Jan 2004, 13:52   #66
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but for me I'd rather he used those 20 minutes for something else
finally! someone else dares to say it! The best version of Paradise I've seen in years was done a couple of years ago on a Dutch TV show, where they did the single version (the heavily cut version without the play-by-play) live. Lasted about 5 minutes, and it rocked.
But for 'real' concerts, I'd say do it in 10 minutes or so (no extended make out sections, no elaborate fight scenes, just play the song) and use the time which comes available for A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste, Sailor To A Siren, Surf's Up, Execution Day or whatever.
Impossible ofcourse to leave this song out during a concert. And 10 minutes its impossible too. Its just one of those songs were meat does no edit versions, just like Bat. he does edit live versions now with AFL and Took the words.
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Old 05 Jan 2004, 15:56   #67
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I'm a little bored of it live now though, I know I've been lucky to see Meat live so many times, and I can appreciate why it is such a staple of his live shows, but for me I'd rather he used those 20 minutes for something else.
Excuse-me?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
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Old 06 Jan 2004, 05:00   #68
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Hands up, who's tried this on kareoke?!!

Luke
I raise my hand proudly and say, this is a fun song to act. I would love to sing this live in front of an audience someday, but all of you and I both know, that I would never be able to pull it off like Meat does. He is fantastic in this song. Both versions are awesome, but live its better by an inch.
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 10:28   #69
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OK, I've got my tin hat and flack jacket on ......

I don't think I've ever been overly struck on this one. I'm glad I'm not the only person who feels this one drags at concerts either. I've never been able to put my finger on why I'm not so keen on it - it's just me!
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 16:59   #70
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but for me I'd rather he used those 20 minutes for something else
finally! someone else dares to say it! The best version of Paradise I've seen in years was done a couple of years ago on a Dutch TV show, where they did the single version (the heavily cut version without the play-by-play) live. Lasted about 5 minutes, and it rocked.
But for 'real' concerts, I'd say do it in 10 minutes or so (no extended make out sections, no elaborate fight scenes, just play the song) and use the time which comes available for A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste, Sailor To A Siren, Surf's Up, Execution Day or whatever.
Impossible ofcourse to leave this song out during a concert. And 10 minutes its impossible too. Its just one of those songs were meat does no edit versions, just like Bat. he does edit live versions now with AFL and Took the words.
I agree with Bart. You can cut AFL, because everything Jim put in the song is still there. If you do it with Paradise, it isn't.
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 20:18   #71
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Listen to the live version on the Storytellers CD again, and tell me what you're missing. I find that to be enough proof it can be done, and done well, in less then 10 minutes.
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 22:09   #72
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Yes it can, but you know that the storytellers version has been cut.
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 22:27   #73
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Yes it can, but you know that the storytellers version has been cut.
Yup
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Old 09 Jan 2004, 23:11   #74
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But that's not the point: it proves you can play a decent version of PBTDBL in less then 10 minutes. And although it's cut - what did they leave out? The fight scene at the end (and yes, I'm completely ignoring the story in the middle from the DVD). If you leave the end in, it's still under 12 minutes...

Personally, I've had it with Paradise...
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Old 10 Jan 2004, 15:23   #75
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The first time i heard this song was a t a concert and I am actually quite disappointed that the album version aren't as long as the live one.

A WHALE! :P
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