RE: Your MySpace

[Battybarb]

yes Ross you did read that right..

[Deb]

If you reread the thread Ross, you'll see what he said to R and it in no way jumped out at me that he had a problem with this site thats for sure.

I hate when people use Meats name in an argument just to back there's up when they're talking complete and utter crap Very below the belt

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Originally Posted by Battybarb

yes Ross you did read that right..

WOW my memory isn't bad afterall LOL

[MeatGrl1]

Originally Posted by Deb

I hate when people use Meats name in an argument just to back there's up when they're talking complete and utter crap Very below the belt

I absolutely agree Deb,
I see no point in it and often does more harm than good emo .

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Originally Posted by Deb

If you reread the thread Ross, you'll see what he said to R and it in no way jumped out at me that he had a problem with this site thats for sure.

I hate when people use Meats name in an argument just to back there's up when they're talking complete and utter crap Very below the belt

I musta missed something.....

I take back what I posted just then about my memory

[Pudding]

Originally Posted by Battybarb

offencive((hope thats spelt right..lol))...

No it isn't it's offensive

Pud

[Battybarb]

ok thanks pudding ,spelling is my weakness..lol

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Originally Posted by Battybarb

ok thanks pudding ,spelling is my weakness..lol

I'll ditto you on that one No wonder I only managed to achive Int2 English

[daveake]

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

I'll ditto you on that one No wonder I only managed to achive Int2 English

You tried to archive English?

Dave

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Originally Posted by daveake

You tried to archive English?

Dave

told ya I'm not the best at spelling lol - Its "achieve"

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

Just to answer Andrew's question, yes. Meat Loaf Unofficial closed mainly due to school demands - hard to believe I know

Why is that hard to believe? I would like to think they give people around your age enough to study in school so that you possibly don't have time to create gazillions of websites.

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

Hence then later on, I bought pattirusso.co.uk, and created a fansite. This was no intension to annoy anyone, and when I found out, I was upset and I simply did what I thought was best along with listening to others, and closed it and pointed it to Patti's Site. I did also ask Patti herself, and she said she wanted to see me concentrate on my own music than to work on a site for her, so I told her that I would redirect the domain to her myspace site instead - she was flattered by the idea though.

That may be great, you wanting to put in effort but I doubt you could ever do as good a job as Susi did with Patti Rocks and also doubt you are a big a fan as Susi is. The idea of making websites just for the sake of it without putting in proper time /anything original is surely pointless.

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

In the future, if Patti would like the domain name for a site, then she can have it by all means....

You're so very kind. Don't you think it would have been better if you had bought the domain AFTER contacting Patti? How would you feel if I had bought RossPomfret.com before you had a chance to buy it yourself?
Sure there are people around the web that buy domains all the time. Just think it's not a very nice thing for a fan to do without asking the artist/company/person involved first.

[mszee]

Andrew, I have to disagree with your last argument. I don't know what motivation Ross had to buy this domain (probably as an investment) but...

Out of curiousity I've looked up Patti Russo and Patricia Russo in NJ...and there is a full gazillion of them in NJ White Pages alone. It is a VERY common name here just as I thought and buying domain name like that could have been done by any one of those people with a full right to do so without asking THAT Patti Russo.

In addition...I have no idea what value UK ending of the domain will have for Patti - she is an American and probably would opt for American domain if she wanted her own full blown site.

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by mszee

Andrew, I have to disagree with your last argument. I don't know what motivation Ross had to buy this domain (probably as an investment) but...

Out of curiousity I've looked up Patti Russo and Patricia Russo in NJ...and there is a full gazillion of them in NJ White Pages alone. It is a VERY common name here just as I thought and buying domain name like that could have been done by any one of those people with a full right to do so without asking THAT Patti Russo.

In addition...I have no idea what value UK ending of the domain will have for Patti - she is an American and probably would opt for American domain if she wanted her own full blown site.

Okay so you are saying it's okay for a "fan" to make money out of artist by buying their name as a domain name? This sounds very familar to what somebody else did and had a dispute with Meat Loaf himself about.

Think the .co.uk has quite a bit of value for Patti. I don't see her doing as many shows as anywhere else than in the uk.

[mszee]

What I am saying is that Patti Russo does NOT hold a patent on her name...by your logic all kings of the world should be mad if Andy or Mike bought a King domain of some kind...

I am pretty sure that there are other Russos that own similar domains. There are so many possibilities of domains now that it's not even funny. Those had a whole lot more value when there was only .com...but there is so many now...there is something for everybody...

I can't tell you whether it is ok to buy domain for profit - I am not a judge and/or God and/or anybody's conscience...

I don't know which dispute you're talking about but if you're talking about Steinman/Meat Loaf dispute, Steinman actually has a copyright on Bat Out of Hell phrase...so it is a dispute a bit of a different nature .

If UK domain had value for Patti she would have tried to buy it by now...or her lawyers would...don't you think she doesn't have an army of agents/lawyers/advisors, etc???

I don't really want to get involved into this dispute because I definitely look at this from American point of view...I am just stating my opinion...

[AndrewG]

I absolutely agree with you about the name. If someone with my similar name bought the domain I would respect that. You cannot stop that. But that is not what I meant. I was on about what Ross, as a "fan" has done and how he went about pattirusso.co.uk.

What I also do not respect is someone setting up a quick website including a forum that no-one uses, whilst copying content from existing popular websites (and slagging these off!) and then to advertise the site on those main ones by trying to grab traffic away. This is exactly what Grace has done at least twice.
It seems to me that some people are more interested in the "owning" of a site and being popular because of that rather than contributing anything original or interesting for that matter.

[mszee]

By the way...I've found a bit of VERY interesting information about American law...don't know where to post it so I will post it here since we touched copyright subject. Apparently, if you copyrighted something in America...you HAVE to sue for infringement...whether you want to or not...otherwise you lose your copyright...that would explain that famous lawsuit and how quickly it was dropped...

[mszee]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I absolutely agree with you about the name. If someone with my similar name bought the domain I would respect that. You cannot stop that. But that is not what I meant. I was on about what Ross, as a "fan" has done and how he went about pattirusso.co.uk.

What I also do not respect is someone setting up a quick website including a forum that no-one uses, whilst copying content from existing popular websites (and slagging these off!) and then to advertise the site on those main ones by trying to grab traffic away. This is exactly what Grace has done at least twice.

I don't appreciate much of the above myself...I am willing to chalk off some to Ross's age...otherwise...you know...

Grace is a mystery to me and one that I don't want to learn anything about...LOL...

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by mszee

I don't appreciate much of the above myself...I am willing to chalk off some to Ross's age...otherwise...you know...

Absolutely agree on that one.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Interesting read.....

I just wanted to say that the domain runs out on 24 July 2009 - I had to buy it for 2 years min at the time of purchase. I won't be renewing it, so I'm sure plenty of you will be pleased.

Also if Patti did want it, I wouldn't even dream of saying "yeah you can have it, only if you pay so much, million wise" unlike someone I know who tried to... but turned it down! So really Patti could have it - feel free

And about those website's - yeah I've learnt a lesson, and you only learn from your mistakes - hotlinking etc.... Something I did when I first started out a site, years back and something I WON'T do again!

I hope thats okay and you understand.... I'm not here to annoy anyone, and I don't mean to do it... I just want to get on with everyone....

[Deb]

Andrew I agree. if anyone who didn't know her had bought that domain thats fair enough, but for Ross to have is another thing imo.

Also agree that co.uk is very useful to Patti.

And Ross if she can have it for free, just hand it over to her now and be done with it or do you want to make a big song and dance about this as well as just about everything else you do Actually I can answer that question myself.

[Pudding]

To be completely fair to Ross (because I'm feeling hormonal ) Patti aint done shit about a website, let alone acquiring a domain name, apart from myspace.

Pud

[allrevvedup]

and one would argue she's had a hell of a long time to do something about it as well.

I'm in the middle of setting up a website for my dad and I know for a fact that there is an old schoolteacher of mine who has exactly that same name...now because i've bought the domain name for my dad, should that mean that if the old schoolteacher comes along annoyed that he can't buy it, that I should give it to him?

Hey Ross bought it, Ross had used it...he's linked it to her myspace so by that gesture he's probably done more for her in PR then has been done in years, outside of her touring with Meat Loaf that is.

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

I'm in the middle of setting up a website for my dad and I know for a fact that there is an old schoolteacher of mine who has exactly that same name...now because i've bought the domain name for my dad, should that mean that if the old schoolteacher comes along annoyed that he can't buy it, that I should give it to him?

I never said such things. If I had bought meatloaf.com and pointed it to a simple forum whilst trying to nab people away from here I reckon people would have a problem with that and rightly so I think.

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

Hey Ross bought it, Ross had used it...he's linked it to her myspace so by that gesture he's probably done more for her in PR then has been done in years, outside of her touring with Meat Loaf that is.

Linked to her MySpace? He did that after I told him to (after his own site went through 3 changes, trying to experiment with Joomla, demanding people to register first before seeing the content and all sort of funny things, which I think are not in Patti's interest whatsoever). The pointing to her myspace I think is a good thing he has done. Susi has done the same with pattirusso.com.

I admit I can't pin him down for trying, any PR is better than none, you are 100% right pointing that out, just the way he went about it is what I have a problem with (buying domain before discussing with Patti what he was going to do, content from patti rocks etc, etc).

Grace I think is worse though as she is 10 years older and should know better in my opinion.

I just think there is a difference between wanting set up a site you are passionate about and just trying to gain popularity within the internet community. I saw the latter myself from many of these temporarily existing websites.

[Deb]

Originally Posted by Pudding

To be completely fair to Ross (because I'm feeling hormonal ) Patti aint done shit about a website, let alone acquiring a domain name, apart from myspace.

Pud

We don't know whats going on behind the scenes

Originally Posted by allrevvedup

I'm in the middle of setting up a website for my dad and I know for a fact that there is an old schoolteacher of mine who has exactly that same name...now because i've bought the domain name for my dad, should that mean that if the old schoolteacher comes along annoyed that he can't buy it, that I should give it to him?

that's slightly different Mike, it's your dads name. I think the point Andrew is trying to make is it isn't Ross's in anyway shape or form lol.

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I just think there is a difference between wanting set up a site you are passionate about and just trying to gain popularity within the internet community. I saw the latter myself from many of these temporarily existing websites.

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