GARY BUSEY TRIES TO FIGHT MEAT THIS MARCH ON CELEBERITY APPRENTICE - Page 15

Sarge · 07 Apr 2011, 04:44

Holy crap, Wario!

Read the post I responded to. I was actually asked by Meat himself to go to another website.

Vickip · 07 Apr 2011, 04:58

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Well, you have enough "friends" left to constantly and unconditionally flatter you so you can afford to drive some of your long-time fans away.

With fans like you Meat doesn't need any enemies

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Originally Posted by Sarge

I was actually asked by Meat himself to go to another website.

Good riddance ... don't let the door hit you on the way out !

Shea · 07 Apr 2011, 05:02

Seriously, don't bait the guy anymore. Walk away...walk away. I should clarify...don't bait Meat anymore...old.

Fire Ball · 07 Apr 2011, 05:28

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Thank you for proving my point and confirming that I made the right decision, Meat. As I already said, it's not only because of your problems with Gary Busey. I like you but there are things I've gotten tired of.

Well, you have enough "friends" left to constantly and unconditionally flatter you so you can afford to drive some of your long-time fans away. Sorry for having a mind of my own.

I will take this as a compliment.

It didn't prove you point. There are things you have gotten tired of, now that's funny. If you ever make a bad mistake , I would hope that people would be able to forgive you. You proved my point about who you are as a person. Believe me being a jaded unforgiving person is no compliment. You can have a mind of your own. it's the heartless part I don't get. I'm glad I could find it in my heart to say I'm sorry to Gary and all the other cast members . I am still friends with all of them, just talked to lil Jon and Marlee today. Marlee wants me to be her date at an awards show on Sunday.You think that would happen if I am the bad guy you make me out to be. You may think you have proven your point that I'm a bad MAN, but you don't know me . Why people work with me for 20 years , why .because I am kind , polite, have very good manors and 99.7% of the time one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. When people come backstage to meet and greets they see the real me . not a Phony. If you would have spoken your mind on another web site you would have never heard from me. by the the way I didn't drive you away , you (read between lines) said "Meat is Jerk" , So I will take my ball and go away because I made a mistake being a Meat Loaf fan. Trust me I'm not proving your point. Like I said we know who and what you are now. !!! You can not defend yourself. You dug your on hole. !!!

Shea · 07 Apr 2011, 05:35

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

It didn't prove you point. There are things you have gotten tired of, now that's funny. If you ever make a bad mistake , I would hope that people would be able to forgive you. You proved my point about who you are as a person. Believe me being a jaded unforgiving person is no compliment. You can have a mind of your own. it's the heartless part I don't get. I'm glad I could find it in my heart to say I'm sorry to Gary and all the other cast members . I am still friends with all of them, just talked to lil Jon and Marlee today. Marlee wants me to be her date at an awards show on Sunday.You think that would happen if I am the bad guy you make me out to be. You may think you have proven your point that I'm a bad MAN, but you don't know me . Why people work with me for 20 years , why .because I am kind , polite, have very good manors and 99.7% of the time one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. When people come backstage to meet and greets they see the real me . not a Phony. If you would have spoken your mind on another web site you would have never heard from me. by the the way I didn't drive you away , you (read between lines) said "Meat is Jerk" , So I will take my ball and go away because I made a mistake being a Meat Loaf fan. Trust me I'm not proving your point. Like I said we know who and what you are now. !!! You can not defend yourself. You dug your on hole. !!!

Couldn't have said that better.

Vickip · 07 Apr 2011, 05:40

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

It didn't prove you point. There are things you have gotten tired of, now that's funny. If you ever make a bad mistake , I would hope that people would be able to forgive you. You proved my point about who you are as a person. Believe me being a jaded unforgiving person is no compliment. You can have a mind of your own. it's the heartless part I don't get. I'm glad I could find it in my heart to say I'm sorry to Gary and all the other cast members . I am still friends with all of them, just talked to lil Jon and Marlee today. Marlee wants me to be her date at an awards show on Sunday.You think that would happen if I am the bad guy you make me out to be. You may think you have proven your point that I'm a bad MAN, but you don't know me . Why people work with me for 20 years , why .because I am kind , polite, have very good manors and 99.7% of the time one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. When people come backstage to meet and greets they see the real me . not a Phony. If you would have spoken your mind on another web site you would have never heard from me. by the the way I didn't drive you away , you (read between lines) said "Meat is Jerk" , So I will take my ball and go away because I made a mistake being a Meat Loaf fan. Trust me I'm not proving your point. Like I said we know who and what you are now. !!! You can not defend yourself. You dug your on hole. !!!

Very well said .. thank you Meat.

suzieq · 07 Apr 2011, 06:04

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

It didn't prove you point. There are things you have gotten tired of, now that's funny. If you ever make a bad mistake , I would hope that people would be able to forgive you. You proved my point about who you are as a person. Believe me being a jaded unforgiving person is no compliment. You can have a mind of your own. it's the heartless part I don't get. I'm glad I could find it in my heart to say I'm sorry to Gary and all the other cast members . I am still friends with all of them, just talked to lil Jon and Marlee today. Marlee wants me to be her date at an awards show on Sunday.You think that would happen if I am the bad guy you make me out to be. You may think you have proven your point that I'm a bad MAN, but you don't know me . Why people work with me for 20 years , why .because I am kind , polite, have very good manors and 99.7% of the time one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. When people come backstage to meet and greets they see the real me . not a Phony. If you would have spoken your mind on another web site you would have never heard from me. by the the way I didn't drive you away , you (read between lines) said "Meat is Jerk" , So I will take my ball and go away because I made a mistake being a Meat Loaf fan. Trust me I'm not proving your point. Like I said we know who and what you are now. !!! You can not defend yourself. You dug your on hole. !!!

So many great things in here. Mostly just wanna' say, there are plenty of us that forgive and accept you for who you are and are here playing ball with you.

BostonAngel · 07 Apr 2011, 07:04

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Sarge,
I understand and I'm also glad that in your life you have never none anything without the proper justification and you have never behaved in a manor that wasn't always 100% proper. It must be nice to be so perfect. I'm sorry I'm not !! That makes you able to throw the 1st stone !!
M

Very well said! I couldn't have said it better myself. Sorry, I just couldn't resist using that line. It must be nice for some people to be so perfect. The rest of us will just have to settle for being human and showing that yes, we do at times have flaws.

stretch37 · 07 Apr 2011, 07:08

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

It didn't prove you point. There are things you have gotten tired of, now that's funny. If you ever make a bad mistake , I would hope that people would be able to forgive you. You proved my point about who you are as a person. Believe me being a jaded unforgiving person is no compliment. You can have a mind of your own. it's the heartless part I don't get. I'm glad I could find it in my heart to say I'm sorry to Gary and all the other cast members . I am still friends with all of them, just talked to lil Jon and Marlee today. Marlee wants me to be her date at an awards show on Sunday.You think that would happen if I am the bad guy you make me out to be. You may think you have proven your point that I'm a bad MAN, but you don't know me . Why people work with me for 20 years , why .because I am kind , polite, have very good manors and 99.7% of the time one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. When people come backstage to meet and greets they see the real me . not a Phony. If you would have spoken your mind on another web site you would have never heard from me. by the the way I didn't drive you away , you (read between lines) said "Meat is Jerk" , So I will take my ball and go away because I made a mistake being a Meat Loaf fan. Trust me I'm not proving your point. Like I said we know who and what you are now. !!! You can not defend yourself. You dug your on hole. !!!

very well said Meat!

BostonAngel · 07 Apr 2011, 07:11

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

holy crap sarge. I respect you BUT....

This is all instigating stuff thats uneeded. I dont mean to be MOD-like, but I dont think this tread needs this right now.

This isnt a "hey guys, im leaving" thread. If you're leaving cause of Meat's actions, PM HIM.

The first sentence of the post you posted concerns me greatly. I bolded it. It sounds as if you were bating Meat to post what he posted.

He doesn't need his fans publicly doing this. this isnt the place for that.

In all honesty, The press thinking meat looked like a pedophile during paradise in 2007 was worse then this.

Meat made Reality TV History! Ten Million years from now, itll still be on the top 100 Reality Moments of all time. thats a huge plus :)

This is the second time this week that I have agreed with you completely.

fan · 07 Apr 2011, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

OK here it is , I had been the one baby sitting Gary with John Rich. He started a fight the night before with Lil John, Richard Hatch, Star Jones, and Mark. He tried to start with me again and I walked away for the third time. He grabbed me in the store had taken things out of my basket, never lifted a hand to help the team unload the truck into the paint shop.
from the art store. If you think I yelled for attention, boy do you not know who I am. I try to do everything to keep attention away from me. Gary made everyone on the team crazy from day one. Had fights with everyone everyday. I had slept for 4 hours when that all went down. What Gary had done that morning to the whole team was just absurd.The whole team was ready to kill him. Yes , I had a right to be mad, but I was wrong taking it that far. I said the wrong things. I don't remember now who wrote I did it for attention , let me tell you I don't need that kind of attention !!!
M

I know!!

JennaG · 07 Apr 2011, 08:44

I've had people who have asked me upon seeing the Meat Loaf t-shirts that I wear with such pride how I can be a fan of such an 'awful person' and my reply to that is always 'Do you know him? Have you met him?' and their answer is always 'no'. A lot of people who are giving an opinion have based that opinion from what the media have said and we all know what the media are like. They don't know anything.
I tell these people about how pleasant and down to earth Meat was at the M&G but they are still focusing on that one moment.
We all lose our temper from time to time but how many of us are unlucky enough to have it captured on camera, aired on national prime time television and reported in newspapers in other countries? The media forget that celebrities are only human.

I'm a fan of Meat, not only for his music but because of the kind of person he is. If he needs the support of his fans right now then I'll do whatever I can to give him that support.

Sarge · 07 Apr 2011, 09:15

I don't think you are a bad person or a "jerk" at all, Meat. That's why I have an issue with certain incidents and it saddens me to read about events like the one mentioned by Skybird14 in the post above. It's just getting harder and harder to follow you and enjoy your work. I just don't like the way you express your anger (in general; forget about Busey for a moment). It's beginning to spoil everything I like about you.

By the way, I'm not "defending" myself. I just have an opinion that is different from that of other users of this board.

P.S.: Maybe you'll be glad to hear that my computer crashed while composing this message. And now I have to find Gary Busey's website and find out if I'm really like him as Mr. Fire Ball claims.

Unfortunately I haven't managed to create acronyms the way Busey does yet.

razorball2002 · 07 Apr 2011, 10:07

I like Meat. I'm sure he's pretty cool. Met him in 1996 and the guy blew me away in concert. R E S P E C T Everyone can get pissed off, especially when someone is pushing you that far. Everyone has their one personnality. At least the guy has one.

CarylB · 07 Apr 2011, 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sarge

I agree with Adje and allrevvedup, the tantrum was crazy ..... there is NO justification ..... for such a behavior.

Which is precisely what Meat himself stood up like a man and said, on the programme, in interviews, and here. As one of the "friends" you probably consider "constantly and unconditionally flatter" Meat I think that should be enough; it certainly is for me and for most of us.

To err is human, I've done it many times. To stand up like a man, admit it and apologise is admirable, and makes understanding, accepting and forgiving easy rather than divine.

To respond with a public announcement of a (second) departure due to disillusionment seems odd, unless it's to bait a response from the person you say you're walking away from, in which case an objective was presumably met. Saying you feel foolish for having followed him for so long is bound to make him feel he's being found wanting and put down, because it's simply not the kind of thing to say to anyone in front of an audience, though of course here it could be anticipated to provoke a reply which will keep the door open to continue to elaborate on why you feel him wanting.

Caryl

*AndyK* · 07 Apr 2011, 10:54

Right.

Can we leave it here please? Everyone has said their piece and made their point and posts are starting to get a little too personal with some unfounded accusations starting to appear. To go over it again and again and again will become boring and repetitive for many, and will result in more locked threads and deleted posts which we've managed to avoid recently.

Consider your right of reply to recent posts in this thread suspended. If you have something to say in response, then think about using PMs.

Sue K · 07 Apr 2011, 12:18

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Originally Posted by AndyK

Right.

Can we leave it here please? Everyone has said their piece and made their point and posts are starting to get a little too personal with some unfounded accusations starting to appear. To go over it again and again and again will become boring and repetitive for many, and will result in more locked threads and deleted posts which we've managed to avoid recently.

Consider your right of reply to recent posts in this thread suspended. If you have something to say in response, then think about using PMs.

Thanks, Andy. Reading all this has made my tummy hurt ... xo

GDW · 07 Apr 2011, 13:36

F.F.S. it's just a T.V.show. Change channel or switch it off. Simple!

JaysScout · 07 Apr 2011, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

It didn't prove you point. There are things you have gotten tired of, now that's funny. If you ever make a bad mistake , I would hope that people would be able to forgive you. You proved my point about who you are as a person. Believe me being a jaded unforgiving person is no compliment. You can have a mind of your own. it's the heartless part I don't get. I'm glad I could find it in my heart to say I'm sorry to Gary and all the other cast members . I am still friends with all of them, just talked to lil Jon and Marlee today. Marlee wants me to be her date at an awards show on Sunday.You think that would happen if I am the bad guy you make me out to be. You may think you have proven your point that I'm a bad MAN, but you don't know me . Why people work with me for 20 years , why .because I am kind , polite, have very good manors and 99.7% of the time one of the most down to earth people you will ever meet. When people come backstage to meet and greets they see the real me . not a Phony. If you would have spoken your mind on another web site you would have never heard from me. by the the way I didn't drive you away , you (read between lines) said "Meat is Jerk" , So I will take my ball and go away because I made a mistake being a Meat Loaf fan. Trust me I'm not proving your point. Like I said we know who and what you are now. !!! You can not defend yourself. You dug your on hole. !!!

This whole "Meat as the BAD GUY" simply shows the magic of editing. CA obviously shoots hours and hours of footage for the show. I'm sure that most of it ends up on the cutting room floor. The Meat vs Gary made for great theater (TV)....and the promo clips certainly helped get viewers. I've had the experience of meeting Meat backstage....AFTER a show this past January. He was totally drained and exhausted. If EVER a guy had the right to tell my wife and I that he was too tired to see us, it was him on that night. However, he graciously took the time to talk with us, pose for a few pictures, and then hop a bus to Baltimore. This guy is as real as it gets! What everyone saw last Sunday night was compelling TV......not a true reflection of the man. I think it's great that Meat takes the time to explain what does and has gone on behind the scenes. The explanation of what went on with the "hidden television" in the camper episode is a great example.

TheDoode · 07 Apr 2011, 14:57

I don't think that Meat came off as "The Bad Guy" in celebrity apprentice at all. Not even slightly. Everyone in that room was on his side. The show is heavily edited, everyone knows this, everyone can see it just by watching. I'd be writing the same thing even if it wasn't Meat.

realViking · 07 Apr 2011, 20:14

But...I`m still wondering about the shoes

He he...

I`v been reading all what you guys have written, so don`t think there is anything more for me to say.....

I`m here for Meat, and he CAN see me as his friend!
His Norwegian Viking-girl friend

Tine

*AndyK* · 07 Apr 2011, 21:01

The issue referenced above between forum members has been deemed closed. Please do not bring it up again on this thread.

CarylB · 07 Apr 2011, 23:07

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Originally Posted by realViking

But...I`m still wondering about the shoes
Tine

If I was going to be hurling a wet paint-covered ball down on an art canvass with a splattering thunk I think I'd remove my nice leather shoes

You can clean paint off your feet without spoiling them

Or perhaps the creative process is aided by being shoeless ..

Caryl

LisaT · 07 Apr 2011, 23:40

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Originally Posted by RaysScout

This whole "Meat as the BAD GUY" simply shows the magic of editing. CA obviously shoots hours and hours of footage for the show. I'm sure that most of it ends up on the cutting room floor. The Meat vs Gary made for great theater (TV)....and the promo clips certainly helped get viewers. I've had the experience of meeting Meat backstage....AFTER a show this past January. He was totally drained and exhausted. If EVER a guy had the right to tell my wife and I that he was too tired to see us, it was him on that night. However, he graciously took the time to talk with us, pose for a few pictures, and then hop a bus to Baltimore. This guy is as real as it gets! What everyone saw last Sunday night was compelling TV......not a true reflection of the man. I think it's great that Meat takes the time to explain what does and has gone on behind the scenes. The explanation of what went on with the "hidden television" in the camper episode is a great example.

Well said!

LisaT · 07 Apr 2011, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

I've had people who have asked me upon seeing the Meat Loaf t-shirts that I wear with such pride how I can be a fan of such an 'awful person' and my reply to that is always 'Do you know him? Have you met him?' and their answer is always 'no'. A lot of people who are giving an opinion have based that opinion from what the media have said and we all know what the media are like. They don't know anything.
I tell these people about how pleasant and down to earth Meat was at the M&G but they are still focusing on that one moment.
We all lose our temper from time to time but how many of us are unlucky enough to have it captured on camera, aired on national prime time television and reported in newspapers in other countries? The media forget that celebrities are only human.

I'm a fan of Meat, not only for his music but because of the kind of person he is. If he needs the support of his fans right now then I'll do whatever I can to give him that support.

I totally agree. I've lost count of the number of times that I have 'defended' Meat and fought his corner, when people have made stupid, shallow, uneducated comments about someone that they don't even know! Grrrr, it makes me SO mad! If you don't know what you're talking about, then shut the hell up!

07 Apr 2011, 05:02	#353
Shea Junior Loafer Join Date: 26.12.2010 Location: Canada Posts: 39	Seriously, don't bait the guy anymore. Walk away...walk away. I should clarify...don't bait Meat anymore...old. Last edited by Shea; 07 Apr 2011 at 05:13.

07 Apr 2011, 10:54	#366
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Right. Can we leave it here please? Everyone has said their piece and made their point and posts are starting to get a little too personal with some unfounded accusations starting to appear. To go over it again and again and again will become boring and repetitive for many, and will result in more locked threads and deleted posts which we've managed to avoid recently. Consider your right of reply to recent posts in this thread suspended. If you have something to say in response, then think about using PMs. Last edited by AndyK; 07 Apr 2011 at 11:17.

07 Apr 2011, 14:57	#370
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	I don't think that Meat came off as "The Bad Guy" in celebrity apprentice at all. Not even slightly. Everyone in that room was on his side. The show is heavily edited, everyone knows this, everyone can see it just by watching. I'd be writing the same thing even if it wasn't Meat. Last edited by AndyK; 07 Apr 2011 at 15:17. Reason: Sarge comment removed as it adds nothing to fuel to the flames.

07 Apr 2011, 04:44	#351
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Holy crap, Wario! Read the post I responded to. I was actually asked by Meat himself to go to another website.

07 Apr 2011, 08:44	#362
JennaG Mega Loafer Join Date: 09.02.2010 Location: Posts: 1,934	I've had people who have asked me upon seeing the Meat Loaf t-shirts that I wear with such pride how I can be a fan of such an 'awful person' and my reply to that is always 'Do you know him? Have you met him?' and their answer is always 'no'. A lot of people who are giving an opinion have based that opinion from what the media have said and we all know what the media are like. They don't know anything. I tell these people about how pleasant and down to earth Meat was at the M&G but they are still focusing on that one moment. We all lose our temper from time to time but how many of us are unlucky enough to have it captured on camera, aired on national prime time television and reported in newspapers in other countries? The media forget that celebrities are only human. I'm a fan of Meat, not only for his music but because of the kind of person he is. If he needs the support of his fans right now then I'll do whatever I can to give him that support.

07 Apr 2011, 09:15	#363
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	I don't think you are a bad person or a "jerk" at all, Meat. That's why I have an issue with certain incidents and it saddens me to read about events like the one mentioned by Skybird14 in the post above. It's just getting harder and harder to follow you and enjoy your work. I just don't like the way you express your anger (in general; forget about Busey for a moment). It's beginning to spoil everything I like about you. By the way, I'm not "defending" myself. I just have an opinion that is different from that of other users of this board. P.S.: Maybe you'll be glad to hear that my computer crashed while composing this message. And now I have to find Gary Busey's website and find out if I'm really like him as Mr. Fire Ball claims. Unfortunately I haven't managed to create acronyms the way Busey does yet.

07 Apr 2011, 10:07	#364
razorball2002 Guest Join Date: 20.03.2006 Posts: 86	I like Meat. I'm sure he's pretty cool. Met him in 1996 and the guy blew me away in concert. R E S P E C T Everyone can get pissed off, especially when someone is pushing you that far. Everyone has their one personnality. At least the guy has one.

07 Apr 2011, 13:36	#368
GDW Super Loafer Join Date: 26.03.2010 Location: Perth Posts: 984	F.F.S. it's just a T.V.show. Change channel or switch it off. Simple!

07 Apr 2011, 20:14	#371
realViking Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.12.2010 Location: Northen Norway, In The Cold VikingLand, the place where the Real Viking Girls lives ;-) Posts: 161	But...I`m still wondering about the shoes He he... I`v been reading all what you guys have written, so don`t think there is anything more for me to say..... I`m here for Meat, and he CAN see me as his friend! His Norwegian Viking-girl friend Tine

07 Apr 2011, 21:01	#372
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	The issue referenced above between forum members has been deemed closed. Please do not bring it up again on this thread.